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Although I’m not saying anyone here is suggesting it, there’s often an assumption that our league is somehow more ‘pure’ than the confected American setup. I can’t for the life of me see what’s more pure about letting teams win every single year just because of their economic muscle.
I think it’s more to do with the rabid supporter passion that makes our league ‘pure’. No matter if we are talking The Rangers or Berwick Rangers or Arniston Rangers. I’ll obviously never know but I doubt strongly I’d have spent 50 of my 59 years watching “major league soccer”. (Lower caps deliberate). Seems like shite but with a burger and a shake.
 
I think it’s more to do with the rabid supporter passion that makes our league ‘pure’. No matter if we are talking The Rangers or Berwick Rangers or Arniston Rangers. I’ll obviously never know but I doubt strongly I’d have spent 50 of my 59 years watching “major league soccer”. (Lower caps deliberate). Seems like shite but with a burger and a shake.
Will be able to tell you in a couple of weeks. Going to watch Philadelphia Union against New York Red Bulls.
 
I think it’s more to do with the rabid supporter passion that makes our league ‘pure’. No matter if we are talking The Rangers or Berwick Rangers or Arniston Rangers. I’ll obviously never know but I doubt strongly I’d have spent 50 of my 59 years watching “major league soccer”. (Lower caps deliberate). Seems like shite but with a burger and a shake.
Obviously our vary old and established league has much more supporter passion and history than something ginned up by investors and media companies in a country with almost no tradition of football.

But the original question was whether US sports are more ‘competitive’. And by basically any measure they are.

Don’t get me wrong, I prefer watching hibs to a random nfl game but I’d rather watch the latter than, say, Celtic play Dundee United. And the way the season unfolds in the nfl is much more exciting than in the two horse race that is the SPL.
 
Actually, always thought an 8-4 split at the end of the season. With the top four in a playoff would be the only way we'd ever see a non-oldfirm team win the title again.

Which in reflection is a sad state of affairs.
Unless one of us,the gunts or Aberdeen get tens of millions pumped in title ain't leaving Glasgow in my lifetime.
 
Btw this has been the dullest spl for years. Top 3 looked nailed on weeks ago as did the bottom two. Loads of meaningless games left. And the standard on show dreadful. It's not just hibs but 80% of the games have been gash. Don't even watch any other than hibs highlights now. Not interested in the slightest
 
Obviously our vary old and established league has much more supporter passion and history than something ginned up by investors and media companies in a country with almost no tradition of football.

But the original question was whether US sports are more ‘competitive’. And by basically any measure they are.

Don’t get me wrong, I prefer watching hibs to a random nfl game but I’d rather watch the latter than, say, Celtic play Dundee United. And the way the season unfolds in the nfl is much more exciting than in the two horse race that is the SPL.
I think that’s where the purity starts. Hibs aside (and again, because of those, I’ll happily never know an alternative) I reckon there are about 100 leagues across the world (and ‘non leagues‘ whatever this means, not aimed at you, just a shite term ) that I’d go out of way to watch, before indulging in watching the ‘competition’ of branded MLS razzamatazz. By any measure the best and most competing leagues are European, and beyond that South American, (also very pure by the way).
 
I think that’s where the purity starts. Hibs aside (and again, because of those, I’ll happily never know an alternative) I reckon there are about 100 leagues across the world (and ‘non leagues‘ whatever this means, not aimed at you, just a shite term ) that I’d go out of way to watch, before indulging in watching the ‘competition’ of branded MLS razzamatazz. By any measure the best and most competing leagues are European, and beyond that South American, (also very pure by the way).
Yes, but the discussion wasn’t just about football. And I disagree on the ‘purity’ issue. A load of big euro clubs just tried to create a closed shop. These guys aren’t our friends.

Rangers and Celtic are corporations and just because they have large market share they win every year. It’s not exactly a display of classical Corinthian competition.
 
Yes, but the discussion wasn’t just about football. And I disagree on the ‘purity’ issue. A load of big euro clubs just tried to create a closed shop. These guys aren’t our friends.

Rangers and Celtic are corporations and just because they have large market share they win every year. It’s not exactly a display of classical Corinthian competition.
Ach, nah. it really is about football. They’re not our friends of course they’re not, but neither are Falkirk, Aberdeen or QOS. Nor were Third Lanark or Clydebank, Neither are Chelsea or Arsenal. Neither are those chaps Corinthians…(Either of them) . Hate to say it, I’d rather be a tourist at a mental Celtic v Rangers game or at a Dundee Street v the other lot’s Street game, than say something involving Colorado 69ers….(then again, now I’ve written that…)
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https://www.thebigbrighthing.co.uk/...s-mueller-highest-paid-hibs-history-10k-week/
 
https://www.thebigbrighthing.co.uk/...s-mueller-highest-paid-hibs-history-10k-week/
 
Job site?
No got a clue what I done. ..I tried to post a link from this mornings Scottish Sun about Mueller but its not working for some reason
 
No got a clue what I done. ..I tried to post a link from this mornings Scottish Sun about Mueller but its not working for some reason
Don’t think yi can link they rags on here mate.
 
Sun reporting today he’s on 10 grand a week at Hibs, can’t see it

Think he was on 1.5k at Orlando before joining
 
Think hibby billy may have been trying to paste the S*n article saying Mueller was on 10k a week 😲 fuckin unbelievable. You could probably get the best SPL player out with Glasgow (and even some of their players too) on that wage with plenty change left over! Another masterstroke by the recruitment team at Hibs
 
Think hibby billy may have been trying to paste the S*n article saying Mueller was on 10k a week 😲 fuckin unbelievable. You could probably get the best SPL player out with Glasgow (and even some of their players too) on that wage with plenty change left over! Another masterstroke by the recruitment team at Hibs
Wis pasting Thomos link that went tae a job site. Yi cannae post links tae they rags on here. Journos probs got that info on here, I fuckin hope. As Tricky said Mueller on 1500 a week in USA, he must have got a good payoff tae go back tae that.
 
No chance is he on 10k a week.
 
Like Hibs are going to increase his wages 600%. Don’t you just love how the rags try to belittle hibs at every opportunity.
If anything, the total deal may have cost that but even then i doubt it.
I find it strange how suddenly people think the rags tell the truth these days, esp Hibs fans when they get a chance to slate the club
 
Like Hibs are going to increase his wages 600%. Don’t you just love how the rags try to belittle hibs at every opportunity.
If anything, the total deal may have cost that but even then i doubt it.
I find it strange how suddenly people think the rags tell the truth these days, esp when they get a chance to slate Hibs or anything related
That was my thinking as well, they have aggregated the total left on the contract (if its been paid off and this is not a loan back to MLS) and came to the 10K total p/w rather than the actual salary.
 
@aggie WHOOSH there as I thought my spelling of 'love' might obviate the use of a facetious smilie 🤭
HA! Yep, you're right, I got totally whoooshed there. A textbook whoosh, in fact!
 
The fuckwits at the Record can't even get his name right FFS, keep printing Muller.
 
No chance is he on 10k a week.
Reporting today that he was on 10K for a 28 day month.
 
Reporting today that he was on 10K for a 28 day month.

So 2.5k a week
Thats reasonable.

Maybe hasn't shown to be worth it, but I still don't think he is a bad player, just needed to adjust to the league and living half a world away.
 
Reporting today that he was on 10K for a 28 day month.

Where are you seeing that @Bofahibee ?
 
Where are you seeing that @Bofahibee ?
 

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So 2.5k a week
Thats reasonable.

Maybe hasn't shown to be worth it, but I still don't think he is a bad player, just needed to adjust to the league and living half a world away.
Seems more realistic, he'd have more than likely been given a lift on his £1.5k p/w to compensate for relocating to Scotland. On paper it was a good signing, one of those Expectation v Reality things!
 
Thanks @Old north enclosure, that's claiming £10k per week.
I was asking about the £10k per month story.
 
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I don't even think Franck or Russell were on as much as 10 a week when there was more money in Scottish football?
 
“According to the…….” So many rags you could put in there and you just know it’s bullshit
 
I don't even think Franck or Russell were on as much as 10 a week when there was more money in Scottish football?

Couldn't imagine they were. If those 2 never got it I'm sure as shit Mueller wasn't.
 
Unsettled or not, there's no fucking danger Mueller is walking away from 10 bags a week!
 
Unsettled or not, there's no fucking danger Mueller is walking away from 10 bags a week!

Exactly, he’ll no be getting offered close to that at Chicago Fire. 10 grand a month sounds more likely than 10 grand a month.

Maybe the rag in question worked out his weekly cost including his signing on fee, or maybe they just made it up… probably the latter.
 
Exactly, he’ll no be getting offered close to that at Chicago Fire. 10 grand a month sounds more likely than 10 grand a month.
Equally likely.
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Where are you seeing that @Bofahibee ?
Either BBC Gossip has amended it's post or I f***ed up - I'm sure when I read it over my porridge this morning it said 10K per four weeks for the four months he was here. Either way, you can kick my arse
 
From what I've heard he's probably on the most money for a hibs player ever and a percentage is paid by the club and a percentage by Ron. The hope was he would impress and Ron would recoup his cash from the sale.
 
From what I've heard he's probably on the most money for a hibs player ever and a percentage is paid by the club and a percentage by Ron. The hope was he would impress and Ron would recoup his cash from the sale.

Nah, not even sure that's legal anymore either.

All wages need to be paid by income to abide by financial fair play.
Means Ron would co-own him with Hibs and thats not legal either I dont think.
 
Moaty's a communist though, this is pretty normal for them -- they hate all "bourgeois" people too. "Class enemies" and that.

Aaaanyway...

Indeed we would.

Exactly. My point was that to say the Americans "know nothing about competitive sport" is patently ridiculous. Especially as we are a part of one of the most uncompetitive sporting competitions on the face of the planet.

This is a totally fair point, but the bit in bold is really the crux. If it were anything remotely resembling a level playing field, I'd absolutely prefer our system too. But it isn't.

Would they? I'd suggest they'd be dead against it, precisely because you might end up with one of the other teams winning every now and again.

The point is that American sport is designed very consciously to avoid situations like ours. Brady and the Patriots were very much an anomaly, for example, along with the great Bulls team in the NBA. Yes, it's a closed shop, but if you closed the Scottish Premier League and did nothing else, the same two teams would still win it every year.
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From what I've heard he's probably on the most money for a hibs player ever and a percentage is paid by the club and a percentage by Ron. The hope was he would impress and Ron would recoup his cash from the sale.

This proves Ron’s son should have no involvement in our recruitment process moving forward.
 
This proves Ron’s son should have no involvement in our recruitment process moving forward.
All we have are rumors right now. Ron has stated that his son is a go between, not a scout. FFS these things grow arms and legs and this shit just adds fuel to the fire. He explained his son basically looks into if the players scouted are viable and in our budget.
 
All we have are rumors right now. Ron has stated that his son is a go between, not a scout. FFS these things grow arms and legs and this shit just adds fuel to the fire. He explained his son basically looks into if the players scouted are viable and in our budget.

It was Ian Gordon that brought Mueller to the club.
 

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