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Hattie said:
Along with the non catastrophe of mass starvation of food and medicine.
It’s all propaganda 😞
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I watch Al Jazeera Stu, they show loads more of they murdering cvnts than UK tv. Probs why they're targeting the journalists.
 
hibbybilly said:
I watch Al Jazeera Stu, they show loads more of they murdering cvnts than UK tv. Probs why they're targeting the journalists.
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They don’t want the world to see what they’re doing. Eegie will be along soon to tell us it isn’t genocide though. Maybe extermination might be more appealing as a descriptor?
 
Beagle said:
They don’t want the world to see what they’re doing. Eegie will be along soon to tell us it isn’t genocide though. Maybe extermination might be more appealing as a descriptor?
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A common theme is that they report the news...and 5 minutes later there's an airstrike there.

It is absolutely disgusting that they are being allowed to do what they are doing.

Imagine Saddam had acted in this way...and he was strung up by the neck.

The Middle East is a better place for that of course. 👍
 
Bangkokhibby said:
Joe I don't watch Sky news but I'd be prepared to bet it doesn't come close to Al Jazeera coverage, documentaries and in depth interviews with those currently there or recently left.
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Al Jazeera gives by far the best and most in depth insights both to the slaughter in Gaza and other flashpoints across the world.
Haven't seen anything close on the 'mainstream' News channels.
 
joethehibby said:
Sky is like that I have to say . They are totally anti israel
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Not everyone agrees with that.

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Sky’s ‘skewed’ news​

Across all the mainstream media outlets where Declassified gained access to insiders, a recurring theme was the challenge of reporting on Israel’s war crimes, despite them being caught on camera.

One journalist at Sky News suggested there are a whole set of unwritten journalistic rules that apply exclusively to Israel. “It’s a continuous battle to report the truth,” they said. “We would see the raw footage being sent to us from Gaza – we’re all well aware of the carnage. Yet you can’t describe what your eyes are seeing.

“I remember when [Israel’s then defence minister] Yoav Gallant announced the ‘complete siege’ immediately after October 7. It was a blockade on top of an already crippling blockade. It was a violation of international law that was going to have catastrophic consequences, and yet this wasn’t allowed to be conveyed in the coverage.”

Since Israel began its onslaught in Gaza, Sky News has been criticised on social media for not attributing blame when Palestinians were killed, in contrast to vivid, humanising reporting on Israeli victims. Inside the newsroom, there is unease at how much prominence is given to the Israeli military’s version of events.

“Myself and other colleagues found ourselves frequently frustrated at how nothing could be reported unless there was a response or confirmation from the Israeli army,” the Sky journalist told Declassified. “We know who’s doing the killing, we know who’s responsible, so why must we wait for Israel to confirm or deny before we attribute? We never wait for the Russians; we take Ukrainian claims at face value as the victims. Why is this any different?

“Nor was any version Israel provided ever challenged. It was taken as fact, always. I remember challenging senior members of staff, reminding them that Israel repeatedly lies and has a history of doing so. But it was pointless and fell on deaf ears. The Israeli narrative always reigned supreme and instructed the coverage at Sky News, no matter how inaccurate”.

Speaking up and trying to shift the direction of coverage was not without consequence, the Sky News journalist added. “To adopt a stance other than Israel having the right to defend itself, to push back against the skewed coverage would earn you the label of being difficult or rigid”.

‘Avalanche of phone calls’​

The choice of which guests to book, and how hard to scrutinise them, has been another issue of concern inside the newsroom. Sky News frequently treated Palestinian guests with hostility, including muting them. For Israeli guests, that was a line that could not be crossed.

“If we had an interview with the Palestinian ambassador that comprehensively conveyed the Palestinian side, or a presenter challenged an IDF spokesperson, or even a news report that humanised Palestinians and explicitly named Israel as the perpetrator, there’d be an avalanche of phone calls and complaints promptly,” the Sky source said.

Who exactly was responsible for some of the phone calls – and what their intent was – also became apparent. “Israeli spokespeople or officials who had access to senior figures would pressure Sky News and often threaten to pull access to correspondents on the ground as a result. This clearly impacted what was and wasn’t said on air.”

Sky News did not respond to requests for comment.
 
Doc Shrink said:

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Not everyone agrees with that.

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Sky’s ‘skewed’ news​

Across all the mainstream media outlets where Declassified gained access to insiders, a recurring theme was the challenge of reporting on Israel’s war crimes, despite them being caught on camera.

One journalist at Sky News suggested there are a whole set of unwritten journalistic rules that apply exclusively to Israel. “It’s a continuous battle to report the truth,” they said. “We would see the raw footage being sent to us from Gaza – we’re all well aware of the carnage. Yet you can’t describe what your eyes are seeing.

“I remember when [Israel’s then defence minister] Yoav Gallant announced the ‘complete siege’ immediately after October 7. It was a blockade on top of an already crippling blockade. It was a violation of international law that was going to have catastrophic consequences, and yet this wasn’t allowed to be conveyed in the coverage.”

Since Israel began its onslaught in Gaza, Sky News has been criticised on social media for not attributing blame when Palestinians were killed, in contrast to vivid, humanising reporting on Israeli victims. Inside the newsroom, there is unease at how much prominence is given to the Israeli military’s version of events.

“Myself and other colleagues found ourselves frequently frustrated at how nothing could be reported unless there was a response or confirmation from the Israeli army,” the Sky journalist told Declassified. “We know who’s doing the killing, we know who’s responsible, so why must we wait for Israel to confirm or deny before we attribute? We never wait for the Russians; we take Ukrainian claims at face value as the victims. Why is this any different?

“Nor was any version Israel provided ever challenged. It was taken as fact, always. I remember challenging senior members of staff, reminding them that Israel repeatedly lies and has a history of doing so. But it was pointless and fell on deaf ears. The Israeli narrative always reigned supreme and instructed the coverage at Sky News, no matter how inaccurate”.

Speaking up and trying to shift the direction of coverage was not without consequence, the Sky News journalist added. “To adopt a stance other than Israel having the right to defend itself, to push back against the skewed coverage would earn you the label of being difficult or rigid”.

‘Avalanche of phone calls’​

The choice of which guests to book, and how hard to scrutinise them, has been another issue of concern inside the newsroom. Sky News frequently treated Palestinian guests with hostility, including muting them. For Israeli guests, that was a line that could not be crossed.

“If we had an interview with the Palestinian ambassador that comprehensively conveyed the Palestinian side, or a presenter challenged an IDF spokesperson, or even a news report that humanised Palestinians and explicitly named Israel as the perpetrator, there’d be an avalanche of phone calls and complaints promptly,” the Sky source said.

Who exactly was responsible for some of the phone calls – and what their intent was – also became apparent. “Israeli spokespeople or officials who had access to senior figures would pressure Sky News and often threaten to pull access to correspondents on the ground as a result. This clearly impacted what was and wasn’t said on air.”

Sky News did not respond to requests for comment.
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When was all this said though, I can only comment on what I’m seeing and if they are pro israel I cannot see it and they must be brilliant at hiding it . Mibby I’m naive, never thought of myself as that . The only way to form an opinion is to watch it yourself 👍
e.g. tegarding the latest murders including five journalists, they basically said the Israelies done it 🤷‍♂️and interviewed palestinians about it .
 
joethehibby said:
When was all this said though, I can only comment on what I’m seeing and if they are pro israel I cannot see it and they must be brilliant at hiding it . Mibby I’m naive, never thought of myself as that . The only way to form an opinion is to watch it yourself 👍
e.g. tegarding the latest murders including five journalists, they basically said the Israelies done it 🤷‍♂️and interviewed palestinians about it .
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Hardly a scoop.

Totally anti-Israel? Clearly not. The info from the Sky journo evidences that.

Perhaps the Sky News producers think they are balanced, but I doubt even they think they are anti Israel.

Al Jazeera is fearless compared to Murdoch's Minions.
 
Doc Shrink said:
Hardly a scoop.

Totally anti-Israel? Clearly not. The info from the Sky journo evidences that.

Perhaps the Sky News producers think they are balanced, but I doubt even they think they are anti Israel.

Al Jazeera is fearless compared to Murdoch's Minions.
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Do you ever watch sky’s reporting on the slaughter ( not a war by any stretch of the imagination ) ?
 
Hammi said:
I'm sure there was 1 Hamas member there sometime over the last year to justify it.
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I was wrong
greencol said:
news.sky.com

Gaza latest: Israel mobilises thousands of reservists as scholars say Gaza offensive is 'genocide'

The Israeli military is starting to mobilise tens of thousands of reservists as part of its Gaza City offensive. Meanwhile, a group of 500 scholars say Israel is committing genocide in Gaza.
news.sky.com news.sky.com
Latest from IDF....
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A fuckin camera!
 
joethehibby said:
So you do watch skynews then and think they are ignoring israels murderous actions ?
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Deary me.
You sure like to make things up.
I know you are a Sky Fanboy - if I recall rightly you wouldn’t believe something said on the fishul Hibs site because you hadn’t had it confirmed by Sky Sports News 🤭

It’s a Sky reporter that is in the post above saying they were unable to be completely truthful about Israel.
If you think the reporter is lying, fair enough.
But then you’d surely have to question whether other Sky reporters are lying too.

Anyway, I’ll leave you to your belief that Sky News is anti Israel and the sole purveyor of truths.
 
Doc Shrink said:
Deary me.
You sure like to make things up.
I know you are a Sky Fanboy - if I recall rightly you wouldn’t believe something said on the fishul Hibs site because you hadn’t had it confirmed by Sky Sports News 🤭

It’s a Sky reporter that is in the post above saying they were unable to be completely truthful about Israel.
If you think the reporter is lying, fair enough.
But then you’d surely have to question whether other Sky reporters are lying too.

Anyway, I’ll leave you to your belief that Sky News is anti Israel and the sole purveyor of truths.
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Sigh
 
Genuine question here, does anyone else on the bounce watch sky’s coverage of the genocide in Gaza and if you do what is YOUR opinion of their coverage ?
 
joethehibby said:
Genuine question here, does anyone else on the bounce watch sky’s coverage of the genocide in Gaza and if you do what is YOUR opinion of their coverage ?
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Did you actually read what the Sky journo said Joe?
Presumably not - have a wee read of it, and see if you can still claim they are “totally anti Israel”.

It’s obviously not what their own journos think but stick to your guns.
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joethehibby said:
Genuine question here, does anyone else on the bounce watch sky’s coverage of the genocide in Gaza and if you do what is YOUR opinion of their coverage ?
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No, its shite, I prefer Al Jazeera, if that is the right term to describe the murder of innocents.
 
Doc Shrink said:
Did you actually read what the Sky journo said Joe?
Presumably not - have a wee read of it, and see if you can still claim they are “totally anti Israel”.

It’s obviously not what their own journos think but stick to your guns.
:sm113:
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I read the whole thing , so what he and you are saying all the stuff I watch is all bolloks . Fair enough 👍
 
joethehibby said:
Genuine question here, does anyone else on the bounce watch sky’s coverage of the genocide in Gaza and if you do what is YOUR opinion of their coverage ?
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That I still only get a fraction of the truth.

We see what gets released by Israel, not what's actually happening.
 
Joe, a simple question which nobody seems to have asked. Have you watched Al Jazeera coverage, allowing you to make a proper comparison between what they report and what you see on Sky?
Looks like everyone here has done that and chosen Al Jazeera as far and away the best.
How many Sky reporters have been murdered?
 
www.bbc.co.uk

UK blocks Israeli government delegation from defence exhibition

The UK says it is due to the Israeli escalation of the Gaza war but Israel called it discrimination.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

Arms traders will be gutted, Israel sounds like the perfect client to be there

Well that's weird the article has the headline:

UK blocks Israeli government delegation from arms trade fair​


not the one on the link
 
Nice to see that Israel are allowed to kill the Yemeni president and all his cabinet...and not a hoot about it.

2 tier Kier is madness.

But when it comes to a world Domination....it's a fucking issue!
 
Attended a screening of the documentary October 8th in Giffnock this evening with my Jewish peers.

Very thought provoking.
 
5 killed in Jerusalem and its all over the news.
Israeli's killed at least 65 people on Sunday, where is that report?
 
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