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See Trump authorised Israel to strike into Qatar...

Mental how much they can do without worrying about facing any consequence.
 
See Trump authorised Israel to strike into Qatar...

Mental how much they can do without worrying about facing any consequence.
I think Trump knows how disastrous it would be for him to send US troops into anywhere.

Much easier to pay someone else to do it for you, and keep it at arms length.

Qatar seemed to have a positive relationship with the US and Europe so Israels actions don't seem to really fit in with strengthening that.

But Qatar seems to have strategic relationships with everybody, I suppose the opposite of Switzerland, and it might need to start choosing who it really wants to get into bed with.

Can't have foreign countries bombing your capital regardless of the targets.
 
I think Trump knows how disastrous it would be for him to send US troops into anywhere.

Much easier to pay someone else to do it for you, and keep it at arms length.

Qatar seemed to have a positive relationship with the US and Europe so Israels actions don't seem to really fit in with strengthening that.

But Qatar seems to have strategic relationships with everybody, I suppose the opposite of Switzerland, and it might need to start choosing who it really wants to get into bed with.

Can't have foreign countries bombing your capital regardless of the targets.
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No surprised they have "positive" relations with the US.
 
See Trump authorised Israel to strike into Qatar...

Mental how much they can do without worrying about facing any consequence.
Let us bomb Qatar or we will release the files. :coffee1:
 
Another war crime from Isreal, imagine bombing a delegation trying to broker peace. I see now even the Saudis words towards Isreal have got a lot harsher.
 
Another war crime from Isreal, imagine bombing a delegation trying to broker peace. I see now even the Saudis words towards Isreal have got a lot harsher.
But Donald says it won’t happen again.😒
Cvnts killed 52 people on Tuesday in Gaza but you’ll need tae watch Al Jazeera tae see that reported.
 
I see Trump and Netanyahu are talking about a solution which the Palestinians response seems to be “new colonialism” and Israel will forcibly resist any Palestinian state.

Call me sceptical but I think this might not really be a solution.

I still remember studying this in the early 80s and it doesn’t seem things have moved forward much in the interim.
 
I had a look at some of the points on the peace solution.

Hamas to be given amnesty. Netanyahu no chance is gonna accept that?
They'll be banking on Hamas not being able to release the hostages so they can just carry on as is I thinks.
 
Just watched the latest Last Week Tonight with John Oliver. Recommended if you're following these horrendous events. Covers the history of Netanyahu and how so much of what has happened the past few years is purely down to him and his clinging to power to avoid jail. What a horrible bastard he is.
 
I had a look at some of the points on the peace solution.

Hamas to be given amnesty. Netanyahu no chance is gonna accept that?
They'll be banking on Hamas not being able to release the hostages so they can just carry on as is I thinks.
It would seem nobody wants a deal and are happy for the carnage to continue. History will not be kind to those who are continue this Inhumane behaviour.
 
Just watched the latest Last Week Tonight with John Oliver. Recommended if you're following these horrendous events. Covers the history of Netanyahu and how so much of what has happened the past few years is purely down to him and his clinging to power to avoid jail. What a horrible bastard he is.
There are quite a few people on the planet who need permanently removed, surprised they haven’t been tbh 😡
 
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He even boasts about controlling the narrative.
 
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He even boasts about controlling the narrative.

A strange video where two goons say he says something and the supporting evidence is video of him saying the opposite.
 

The zeal with which the chief constable had been pursued over the fan ban is quite something.

I don’t think it’s really about AI, it’s about Israel flexing its power
Do you mean the zeal he's been pursued for making up evidence to ban fans religious zealots object to, or lying to parliament, therefore the country, about the reason he banned them.?
Or perhaps both.
Never mind Israel or gazza, its what happens in this country that concerns me and a medieval religion dictating what can and can't happen in this country should be a concern to all regardless of political affiliation
 

The zeal with which the chief constable had been pursued over the fan ban is quite something.

I don’t think it’s really about AI, it’s about Israel flexing its power
I don't think anyone can be naive enough to think the Israeli lobby won't have been applying pressure on this - but the issue itself is strong enough on its own; undoubtedly a massive fuckup by the polis and the guy needs to go.
 

The zeal with which the chief constable had been pursued over the fan ban is quite something.

I don’t think it’s really about AI, it’s about Israel flexing its power
100% Robert. Mr Wes Streeting says, aye, we all zip up the back.

‘Our friend’: How the Israel lobby spent £30,000 on Wes Streeting
‘Our friend’: How the Israel lobby spent £30,000 on Wes Streeting

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Wow! That folk think it's about Israel flexing it's muscle and payments to MPs like Wes Streeting, that BTW isn't money deposited into his personal bank account, is absolutely astonishing. It seems the mentality of turning the other way as young white working class girls were victims to organised industrial scale sexual abuse has now spread to accepting that our law enforcement should with impunity blatantly lie.
 
Wow! That folk think it's about Israel flexing it's muscle and payments to MPs like Wes Streeting, that BTW isn't money deposited into his personal bank account, is absolutely astonishing. It seems the mentality of turning the other way as young white working class girls were victims to organised industrial scale sexual abuse has now spread to accepting that our law enforcement should with impunity blatantly lie.
If you can confirm any turning the other away as young working class girls were victims of industrial scale rape or the larger Papist international cover up on here, please point it out. If not, a blethering skate, as my auld mum used to say.

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The zeal with which the chief constable had been pursued over the fan ban is quite something.

I don’t think it’s really about AI, it’s about Israel flexing its power
Are you serious?

He banned Jewish fans after being petitioned to so by islamists and 'community leaders'.

Then when told he might need a better reason than that, used AI to fabricate a report based on fixtures that never existed, falsified statements from the Dutch police and a pack of additional lies.

He then hid the truth from the government of the country, including the real fear that local islamists posed a threat to Jewish fans, and indeed the Maccabi team.

And this against a wider backdrop where forces across the country await their day in court for cover up of, and collusion and even participation in, the rape of tens of thousands of children - a scandal rooted in similar fears, lies and 'community relations'.

All of this and your conclusion is that the real issue here is Jewish puppet masters?

There was some bellyaching a while back that the cowshed had 'turned right wing'. Fucking right it has, its like a Munich bier kellar at times.

Its absolutely shameful.
 
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If you can confirm any turning the other away as young working class girls were victims of industrial scale rape or the larger Papist international cover up on here, please point it out. If not, a blethering skate, as my auld mum used to say.

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You must have been asleep at the wheel when you weren't intervening with your own pape obsessed deflections.

Miserable and mental.
 
anyone see the US ambassador (Mike Huckabee) saying 'it'd be fine if they took it all' re Israel taking the land from the Nile to the Euphrates on the basis of genesis :read: - he's the principle US representative in the region FFS

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anyone see the US ambassador (Mike Huckabee) saying 'it'd be fine if they took it all' re Israel taking the land from the Nile to the Euphrates on the basis of genesis :read: - he's the principle US representative in the region FFS

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The greater Israel project. Don’t get too excited about it. You know who will be along shortly to tell you it’s not a thing
the mueller report see GIF
 
The greater Israel project. Don’t get too excited about it. You know who will be along shortly to tell you it’s not a thing
the mueller report see GIF
You been drinking in the kellar again offizier?

As I was saying on the knifeman thread...
 
Its utter insanity whats happening just now. It will,just as always happens,end badly. What a fucked up world we have now where the worlds so called policeman are the ones commiting horrendous crimes. I doubt even orwell could have seen this coming. I despair for humanity hearing folk defend this. Those enabling this should be held accountable but of course they wont.
 
Its utter insanity whats happening just now. It will,just as always happens,end badly. What a fucked up world we have now where the worlds so called policeman are the ones commiting horrendous crimes. I doubt even orwell could have seen this coming. I despair for humanity hearing folk defend this. Those enabling this should be held accountable but of course they wont.
The yanks are attacking the world's most wicked and destructive regime.

There is an extremely strong argument that they should not, and the world should live with continuing carnage across the middle east and slaughter of freedom campaigners. Im not being smart btw, its just that that is the equation. At some point though, the world would have to answer the question with a nuclear armed Iran.

But while it may be ill advised, is it a horrendous crime? The world has gone to war against bampots before. Should we leave Russia to get on with it too?

People weren't happy when Trump was implying the world cop had hung up his truncheon and arent happy now he has reneged on that.

I think Orwell would have no trouble with assessing all this, in fact he has already lwft us with explanation of the folk that are more pissed at Israel and the US than they are at the Iranian mullahs. I'm not saying you are in that camp btw just that the orwellian aspects of it were foreseen by, well, Orwell!
 
The effect of this utter lunacy will linger for decades. Its not achieving anything. There are countless bampot countries,many worse than iran. China and their slaughter of muslims,the saudis. The list is extensive. Attacking iran just makes them more dangerous in the long run. Its bonkers on every level. Trump only doing this due to his unpopularity in the polls. Thousands will die needlessly. An utter shitshow.
 
The effect of this utter lunacy will linger for decades. Its not achieving anything. There are countless bampot countries,many worse than iran. China and their slaughter of muslims,the saudis. The list is extensive. Attacking iran just makes them more dangerous in the long run. Its bonkers on every level. Trump only doing this due to his unpopularity in the polls. Thousands will die needlessly. An utter shitshow.
There are plenty wrong uns, but I can't think of any worse than Iran - perhaps some of the African warlords excepted, but that's very much a backyard affair.

China's treatment of the Uighurs is in the same no fucks given bucket as all persecution of Muslims that doesnt involve Jews, but China is nevertheless not on the same level for inflicting carnage or sponsoring it via proxies

You say the list is extensive but it isn't. I doubt you could give a good reason to place even a single country ahead of Iran.

I don't disagree with you on the potential for disaster but that is a separate matter. The reason the Americans are attacking iran is because they are iran with all that entails. The alternative is to leave them to it and have decades of continued slaughter and one day the risk of it going nuclear. That may well be the right choice but let's acknowledge it is the choice.
 
There are plenty wrong uns, but I can't think of any worse than Iran - perhaps some of the African warlords excepted, but that's very much a backyard affair.

China's treatment of the Uighurs is in the same no fucks given bucket as all persecution of Muslims that doesnt involve Jews, but China is nevertheless not on the same level for inflicting carnage or sponsoring it via proxies

You say the list is extensive but it isn't. I doubt you could give a good reason to place even a single country ahead of Iran.

I don't disagree with you on the potential for disaster but that is a separate matter. The reason the Americans are attacking iran is because they are iran with all that entails. The alternative is to leave them to it and have decades of continued slaughter and one day the risk of it going nuclear. That may well be the right choice but let's acknowledge it is the choice.
I do think a lot of the ingredients are there just now. Regime under pressure from the civil unrest, Russian support diminishing, also possibly no coincidence this has occurred bang in the middle of Ramadan when a lot of the population will be fatigued.
 
I do think a lot of the ingredients are there just now. Regime under pressure from the civil unrest, Russian support diminishing, also possibly no coincidence this has occurred bang in the middle of Ramadan when a lot of the population will be fatigued.
That Russian point is also relevant I suspect. The mercs have decapitated Russia's proxies in the Middle East and Latin America over the last few months. This will have a bearing on Ukraine and the rest also.