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Hibee Kev said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Trump exempts smartphones and computers from new tariffs

It follows concerns that tech prices could skyrocket, as many gadgets are made in China, with the US president saying he will give more detail on Monday.
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Surprise surprise… smartphones and computers exempt from the new tariffs 👀
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He doesn't have a clue what he's doing, he just proclaims all kinds of shite and reacts to it. Talking about the Jan 6 prisoners when deciding who should be pardoned and who shouldn't be he actually said "fuck it, pardon them all"

He's a hugely dangerous idiot. If someone think he's some political genius, I worry about your mental faculties
 
Hibee Kev said:
www.bbc.co.uk

Trump exempts smartphones and computers from new tariffs

It follows concerns that tech prices could skyrocket, as many gadgets are made in China, with the US president saying he will give more detail on Monday.
www.bbc.co.uk www.bbc.co.uk

Surprise surprise… smartphones and computers exempt from the new tariffs 👀
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Somebody has possibly sat him down and explained that not only is America not capable of doing the manufacturing for sophisticated tech, it’s not even capable of doing the specialist laundry required for overalls of those involved in such manufacture (a spec of dust can wreak havoc).

I mean it’s pitiful that the US is in that position, but it is. Reversing the destruction wrought by 30 years of globalism might be the right intention but it will take more than barking at people and extorting them to achieve it.
 
egb_hibs said:
Somebody has possibly sat him down and explained that not only is America not capable of doing the manufacturing for sophisticated tech, it’s not even capable of doing the specialist laundry required for overalls of those involved in such manufacture (a spec of dust can wreak havoc).

I mean it’s pitiful that the US is in that position, but it is. Reversing the destruction wrought by 30 years of globalism might be the right intention but it will take more than barking at people and extorting them to achieve it.
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The time it would take is a quite serious flaw in his not so cunning plan.
 
The on/off tariffs was on it then went off and now it might be coming back on again but maybe not by as much.

Edit: mobile phones.

Meanwhile elsewhere in the good ole US of A ...
A special moment for humanity as the world gets to watch billionaires play astronauts with the tax money they avoided paying
 
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Jack said:
The on/off tariffs was on it then went off and now it might be coming back on again but maybe not by as much.

Meanwhile elsewhere in the good ole US of A ...
A special moment for humanity as the world gets to watch billionaires play astronauts with the tax money they avoided paying
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Aye but they did for the good of women . . . and Earth
 
An economics view of the tariffs. The pundit isn’t that impressed by the tariffs but is clear that this is very definitely about American labour and indivisible national security concerns.

Also explains the workings of the ratios used against each country and why these are not as daft as suggested by the Wall Street line the media repeats.

Essentially Wall Street is now fucked. It has grown from a banking hub to a vast industry managing the overseas wealth created by the destruction of US jobs. He reckons they are now panicking as their towers of mammon are threatened.

Worth a listen, although be warned, you might find you have been siding with Michael Douglas over Charlie Sheen - or at least swallowing his messaging; not in objecting to tariffs, but in some of the surrounding stuff.

A hopeful note is that he reckons the people around Trump have smarter approaches available to them but are having to weather the tariffs battering ram first as it’s the boss man’s thing.

Also reckons Democrats won’t change Trump’s course, that is not tenable for them to disguise the fact they are the Wall Street party behind a bunch of rainbow flags, and they know it. Behind the political rhetoric he argues they’ve already recognised this.

Tldr; the age of American empire is done, Wall Street is done, tea is oot for Gordon Gecko and the progressive culture warriors that enable him.

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When you really think about it, no political anywhere should be near making big decisions for the masses. Most, but not all have had fuck all real life experience and live a very sheltered life. Private education, college and most probably haven't worked many real jobs. And yet they make all the decisions for the working men and women and think they know best.
 
SuperTortolano said:
When you really think about it, no political anywhere should be near making big decisions for the masses. Most, but not all have had fuck all real life experience and live a very sheltered life. Private education, college and most probably haven't worked many real jobs. And yet they make all the decisions for the working men and women and think they know best.
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Politicians are always likely to be well educated folk, and all that implies. The real problem in our day imo is they are wedded to an ideology hostile the people they govern, and educated in a system that has set its face against actual education.

It’s coming to an end though. Trump maybe an absolute rocket, and his own policies may or may not be a disaster. But I think the genie is out of the bottle now on the disastrous consequences of globalism and progressivism. Scotland doesn’t operate in real world politics due to our chattel status, and we may lag behind, but I think even Labour are starting to get it. It’s going to take years for it to ripple through but for the first time in decades I see a glimmer of hope that civil war / democratic collapse, might just be avoided. Though the big question is whether it’s already baked in in Europe.
 
egb_hibs said:
Politicians are always likely to be well educated folk, and all that implies. The real problem in our day imo is they are wedded to an ideology hostile the people they govern, and educated in a system that has set its face against actual education.

It’s coming to an end though. Trump maybe an absolute rocket, and his own policies may or may not be a disaster. But I think the genie is out of the bottle now on the disastrous consequences of globalism and progressivism. Scotland doesn’t operate in real world politics due to our chattel status, and we may lag behind, but I think even Labour are starting to get it. It’s going to take years for it to ripple through but for the first time in decades I see a glimmer of hope that civil war / democratic collapse, might just be avoided. Though the big question is whether it’s already baked in in Europe.
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Yes they are well educated, but like many college/university educated people, they lack common sense. Learning from a book is completely different than gaining life experience from everyday interactions with people.

A history teacher can be college educated and use that knowledge to educate kids. But for the most part, what politicians learn, doesn't always transfer into the real world.

I'd much rather a business man with experience run a country than some clueless politician. And that doesn't have to be Trump, just someone with half a clue.
 
SuperTortolano said:
Yes they are well educated, but like many college/university educated people, they lack common sense. Learning from a book is completely different than gaining life experience from everyday interactions with people.

A history teacher can be college educated and use that knowledge to educate kids. But for the most part, what politicians learn, doesn't always transfer into the real world.

I'd much rather a business man with experience run a country than some clueless politician. And that doesn't have to be Trump, just someone with half a clue.
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I spent 30 odd years (very odd) working in an environment that meant dealing with politicians. Not that many were university educated, and of the "life experienced" ..... sorry Jimmy, most were less qualified in the 'common sense' qualification than you'd expect.
Not all politicians are clueless, and many 'experienced business men' in politics are absolute scoundrels, who I wouldn't trust to run a marathon far less a country.
"Life experience" of a postman/plumber (insert job/profession here) is not really a qualification for running a country or dealing with 'enemy' politicians.

I have the utmost disdain for crooked politicians, as I do for crooked businessmen.
But to assume they are all the same is a bit off.
 
Doc Shrink said:
I spent 30 odd years (very odd) working in an environment that meant dealing with politicians. Not that many were university educated, and of the "life experienced" ... sorry Jimmy, most were less qualified in the 'common sense' qualification than you'd expect.
Not all politicians are clueless, and many 'experienced business men' in politics are absolute scoundrels, who I wouldn't trust to run a marathon far less a country.
"Life experience" of a postman/plumber (insert job/profession here) is not really a qualification for running a country or dealing with 'enemy' politicians.

I have the utmost disdain for crooked politicians, as I do for crooked businessmen.
But to assume they are all the same is a bit off.
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I don't think they are all the same, but I do feel the majority lack common sense and are out of touch with the people. I could be wrong as I haven't had many dealings with politicals, it just seems that way from the outside looking in.
 
I suppose there MAY be two or three who try their best. But most just join the bandwagon to the trough.

I've worked in some of their houses over the years. A couple wanted to pay cash 🙄.

I noticed that Swinney has just gave ministers in the government a £20,000 a year wage rise.

More than some folk earn in a year. But obviously they are at the top of the game to get those wages 🤔
 
Doc Shrink said:
I spent 30 odd years (very odd) working in an environment that meant dealing with politicians. Not that many were university educated, and of the "life experienced" ... sorry Jimmy, most were less qualified in the 'common sense' qualification than you'd expect.
Not all politicians are clueless, and many 'experienced business men' in politics are absolute scoundrels, who I wouldn't trust to run a marathon far less a country.
"Life experience" of a postman/plumber (insert job/profession here) is not really a qualification for running a country or dealing with 'enemy' politicians.

I have the utmost disdain for crooked politicians, as I do for crooked businessmen.
But to assume they are all the same is a bit off.
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Agreed. Jimmy can go a bit far here.

Senior business roles are indeed the best foundation;

- bringing in the revenue that allows you to
- invest within the constraints of the budget you can earn and
- managing the insatiable and conflicting demands of competing groups of stakeholders many of whom don’t know what they want and certainly don’t want to pay for it
- and trying to find messaging that explains stuff to them and
- wrestling with legal (domestic and international regulatory), and other confounding factors
- managing security and multiple threat actors
- putting rainbow flags everywhere, and putting young people in front of sexually deviant old men in dresses and other diversity related fun

But that doesn’t mean they’ll no be bandits. Lawyers and a few other professions are reasonably relevant too, but not many, though individuals can of course - at least in theory - be a good fit despite not having a background that especially equips them.

But it has to be said, a postie is not likely to be familiar with much of what is involved and that’s just a fact. Though ascent to a high rank in a related trade union would be a good background.
 
But here is the point I keep asking. The postie or the high flying businessman or the clever lawyer.

They all need to follow party policy or they get binned. So what skills are needed to vote the way the party whip says you have to?

If there is a bad policy decision like the WFA that MPs know is a bad policy. How many of them let their morals win over making a wee noise then dutifully voting for the government
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
I suppose there MAY be two or three who try their best. But most just join the bandwagon to the trough.

I've worked in some of their houses over the years. A couple wanted to pay cash 🙄.

I noticed that Swinney has just gave ministers in the government a £20,000 a year wage rise.

More than some folk earn in a year. But obviously they are at the top of the game to get those wages 🤔
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Don't know all the details, but I think he knocked back the increase himself, which sounds honourable.

And they have all had a pay freeze for a wee while, 16 years is it?

I'm sure some are 'trough snouters' but I'm equally sure many are not.

Again, can only speak for my own experience, and I'm happy to slag off the absolute scoundrels who just take the money whilst looking after themselves and their mates. I know there's plenty, but it's not them all.
 
Doc Shrink said:
Don't know all the details, but I think he knocked back the increase himself, which sounds honourable.

And they have all had a pay freeze for a wee while, 16 years is it?

I'm sure some are 'trough snouters' but I'm equally sure many are not.

Again, can only speak for my own experience, and I'm happy to slag off the absolute scoundrels who just take the money whilst looking after themselves and their mates. I know there's plenty, but it's not them all.
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Oh I know they had a freeze Doc. What kind of cash would they be on now if they had got a yearly rise?
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
But here is the point I keep asking. The postie or the high flying businessman or the clever lawyer.

They all need to follow party policy or they get binned. So what skills are needed to vote the way the party whip says you have to?

If there is a bad policy decision like the WFA that MPs know is a bad policy. How many of them let their morals win over making a wee noise then dutifully voting for the government
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I think they (all politicians) do a wee bit more than just vote for/against motions Jimmy.

Many will let their morals 'interfere'.......... many others will not.
It's politics I'm afraid.

We don't have to like it.
 
Oh I know Doc. I just don't think the current crop of politicians are worth anything near what they get paid.

And again if they led by example then I might have a bit more respect for them.
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
But here is the point I keep asking. The postie or the high flying businessman or the clever lawyer.

They all need to follow party policy or they get binned. So what skills are needed to vote the way the party whip says you have to?

If there is a bad policy decision like the WFA that MPs know is a bad policy. How many of them let their morals win over making a wee noise then dutifully voting for the government
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Well Anthony Lyndon Blair corrupted parliamentary democracy as he did so much else, and made this party line thing more prominent than ever, as well as handing political power away from parliament to permanent allies in the arms of the state.

But people can still take stances on principle. Moreover in any line of work or life there is a degree of toeing the line till you’ve earned the right to pull on it. Yes that has problems but that’s life.

The real problem imo is that these days the uni party adheres to a rancid ideology which profits from quashing dissent.
 
Vance interview with Unherd

unherd.com

JD Vance: My message to Europe

unherd.com unherd.com

- US doesn’t want Europe to be a vassal continent and America’s message to Europe is essentially DeGaulle’s
- America does not support Russia, indeed continues to to keep Ukraine’s entire war effort together; but they need to recognise both side’s point of view to end the conflict
- On market turmoil; they aren’t governing for the markets and he is insistent that globalism needs fixed in the interests of workers and national security
- Europe has a democracy deficit, and refuses to budge on globalist economic and migration which its populations demand
- good chance of trade deal with UK

Again, bastards, eyeliner, hillbilly or fake hillbilly etc, but it needs to be taken seriously; this is a project to save the western world from self destruction. Whether wrong headed in vision and / or in measures taken in pursuit of that vision, that’s what it’s about.
 
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egb_hibs said:
Vance interview with Unherd

unherd.com

JD Vance: My message to Europe

unherd.com unherd.com

- US doesn’t want Europe to be a vassal continent and America’s message to Europe is essentially DeGaulle’s
- America does not support Russia, indeed continues to to keep Ukraine’s entire war effort together; but they need to recognise both side’s point of view to end the conflict
- On market turmoil; they aren’t governing for the markets and he is insistent that globalism needs fixed in the interests of workers and national security
- Europe has a democracy deficit, and refuses to budge on globalist economic and migration which its populations demand
- good chance of trade deal with UK

Again, bastards, eyeliner, hillbilly or fake hillbilly etc, but it needs to be taken seriously; this is a project to save the western world from self destruction. Whether wrong headed in vision and / or in measures taken in pursuit of that vision, that’s what it’s about.
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And he's frontrunner to be President quite soon....
 
Smurf said:
And he's frontrunner to be President quite soon....
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I don’t see how people can disagree with what he says. I mean I deplore some of what he has done such as his treatment of Zelenskyy (though I thought the latter was involved in the tango himself), and I think their tariffs are reckless.

But can any body really dispute his critiques?
 
egb_hibs said:
Politicians are always likely to be well educated folk, and all that implies. The real problem in our day imo is they are wedded to an ideology hostile the people they govern, and educated in a system that has set its face against actual education.

It’s coming to an end though. Trump maybe an absolute rocket, and his own policies may or may not be a disaster. But I think the genie is out of the bottle now on the disastrous consequences of globalism and progressivism. Scotland doesn’t operate in real world politics due to our chattel status, and we may lag behind, but I think even Labour are starting to get it. It’s going to take years for it to ripple through but for the first time in decades I see a glimmer of hope that civil war / democratic collapse, might just be avoided. Though the big question is whether it’s already baked in in Europe.
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This is a very interesting article by David Starkey. Essentially he is saying that the rule of law and the judiciary has replaced parliament and politics as the source of government. Probably explains why so many MPs, and indeed our PM, are lawyers.

thecritic.co.uk

Bingham’s failed revolution | David Starkey | The Critic Magazine

Why the supposed “rule of law” now protects the offender rather than the law-abiding citizen…
thecritic.co.uk thecritic.co.uk
 
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