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moathibby said:
Is rife with Sexism Racism and Mysogony.Who knew?
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Was taken to a Scotland England game as corporate guest a few years ago - an all day thing with beer, food, entertainment, beer, murrayfield, beer, food, beer ...

Had to leave and go to another bar during the entertainment - a sexist prick of a racist "comedian" - at the behest of the others at my table as I was getting so angry. When I rejoined them no one knew why I was so pissed off, obviously normal chat for rugger guys.

Scotland won the game - it was cold and boring.

The beer was good though
 
Once had the misfortune of having to share a train carriage with Harlequins.Disgusting pricks.I've been happier in a carriage full of Jambos.
 
If only the football team had such talent snd desire…. Brilliant performance from scotland to go ahead, England pull back, go ahead again, then right after HT England pull back and go ahead, then more ahead. Scotland fought for everything on top of playing world class stuff. Then go on to win it. Our football team will never have that kind of passion and desire to win s game
 
A game for people who knew where the Vennel is.I only found out last year.I don't shop in Waitrose and I don't own a four wheel drive or a waxxed jacket.
 
Great to see Scotland win at Twickenham for the second time ina row, however I find it hard to take the Scotland Rugby team seriously when half of them aren't scottish. The big guy who scored the great try today is South African and only gets to play for Scotland because he lived in Edinburgh for three years.
 
Greenmachine said:
Great to see Scotland win at Twickenham for the second time ina row, however I find it hard to take the Scotland Rugby team seriously when half of them aren't scottish. The big guy who scored the great try today is South African and only gets to play for Scotland because he lived in Edinburgh for three years.
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Are the English rugby team not the same regarding players selected? I don't really watch rugby but obviously it happens in international football all the time - someone has a Scottish Granny etc.
 
Greenmachine said:
Great to see Scotland win at Twickenham for the second time ina row, however I find it hard to take the Scotland Rugby team seriously when half of them aren't scottish. The big guy who scored the great try today is South African and only gets to play for Scotland because he lived in Edinburgh for three years.
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Is qualification by residence a bad thing? I think 14 of todays 23 were Scottish born and the majority of the rest are of Scottish descent?
 
MSG_07 said:
Are the English rugby team not the same regarding players selected? I don't really watch rugby but obviously it happens in international football all the time - someone has a Scottish Granny etc.
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Correct. The FIFA rules on eligibility for national football teams are exactly the same, including qualifying by continuous residence for at least 2 years.
 
moathibby said:
A game for people who knew where the Vennel is.I only found out last year.I don't shop in Waitrose and I don't own a four wheel drive or a waxxed jacket.
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Some inverted snobbery going on here, Moaty. Long before professionalism, rugby was played but just as many working class individuals as Waitrose shoppers. Not many Welsh internationals of yesteryear had waxed jackets or Range Rovers. Many of them were miners and would have given you a good battering for suggesting they might be hooray Henry's. When I were a lad at school in the Borders, it was a hanging offence to be seen in school with a football. Rugby was compulsory. Nothing to do with social class.
I enjoy watching rugby as much as football, so Scotland's performance today was excellent, especially as it was achieved playing the game as it should be played - open, direct and skillful attacking play and resolute defence - Hibs style, in fact. 😁
 
Greenmachine said:
Great to see Scotland win at Twickenham for the second time ina row, however I find it hard to take the Scotland Rugby team seriously when half of them aren't scottish. The big guy who scored the great try today is South African and only gets to play for Scotland because he lived in Edinburgh for three years.
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Most nations are the same. Some need to rely on this kind of thing more than others. We have only a fraction of the player base to chose from than most tier 1 nations.

If a player pulls on a Scottish jersey, they are Scottish for me.

Scotland where magic today, brave, entertaining and clinical.
 
The performance , and spectacle today was fantastic . Sport at its best.
The lack of "non scots " in our squad is quite sad , but thems the rules and everybody else is using them , so we would be daft not to .
Rugby , gets so much right that football should really learn from . If the ball is out of play for any length of the time , the clock stops. The referee is undoubtedly in charge , play acting dosent exist .
The commentators today , could not hide their disappointment, it was sweet .
 
tayside hibee said:
The performance , and spectacle today was fantastic . Sport at its best.
The lack of "non scots " in our squad is quite sad , but thems the rules and everybody else is using them , so we would be daft not to .
Rugby , gets so much right that football should really learn from . If the ball is out of play for any length of the time , the clock stops. The referee is undoubtedly in charge , play acting dosent exist .
The commentators today , could not hide their disappointment, it was sweet .
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Football could learn so much from rugby as you say.
 
If they are coming in and absolutely humiliating the English defence like Van der Merwe did in their own backyard they are Scottish enough for me.
 
lenthehibby said:
Some inverted snobbery going on here, Moaty. Long before professionalism, rugby was played but just as many working class individuals as Waitrose shoppers. Not many Welsh internationals of yesteryear had waxed jackets or Range Rovers. Many of them were miners and would have given you a good battering for suggesting they might be hooray Henry's. When
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lenthehibby said:
I were a lad at school in the Borders, it was a hanging offence to be seen in school with a football. Rugby was compulsory. Nothing to do with social class.
I enjoy watching rugby as much as football, so Scotland's performance today was excellent, especially as it was achieved playing the game as it should be played - open, direct and skillful attacking play and resolute defence - Hibs style, in fact. 😁
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Not changed that much down here. Rugby is still king. Every high school has a rugby team but not many have football teams which is a shame.
Still there are a few Hibees down here so not all bad. Not a rugby fan myself, like golf it has too many rules for me but I do like watching Scotland and Italy in the 6 nations and that was a great result yesterday.
 
When I was at Firrhill each year had it's 1st & 2nd 15 and there aren't many rangerovers in darkest Oxgangs. The PE teachers used to pressure me to go on the team because of my size & speed (I'm no sportsman but I was big and fast) but for various reasons I didn't fancy it.

I only really pay attention to the 6 nations and what I like most is how the standard of individual teams can change from almost year to year. This year's wooden spoon winners might be challenging for the tournament next year or the year after. It keeps it fresh.
 
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I’ve been to Murrayfield for rugby internationals a few times.
Never seen a match yet.
The brass band that plays the visiting team’s national anthem is Whitburn, where I was general secretary for a while, so I had to attend the pre match briefings and organise where we had to be at the right times. Once the band left the pitch, we were done and had to leave. They didn’t let any of the entertainment support watch the match unless they had a ticket.
 
As I said it's great to see a decent Scotland Rugby team...we toiled for years after the game went professional because of the lack of professional teams in this country, but we seem to have sorted all that out now. I still think the nationality rules are bonkers. You are either scottish or you are not. Even think the same for football to be honest. Fare enough if you have scottish parents, but that should be about it.

As to the sport itself, far too many rules. Referees basically determine the outcome. however it is a passionate sport and the players are incredibly fit. I have been to see Leith Accies play a few times and you get some idea what goes on there.

I think Ireland will win the six nations. They hammered Wales yesterday. Wales looked like they had been badly affected by all the controversy about them in recent weeks.
 
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Beagle said:
I’ve been to Murrayfield for rugby internationals a few times.
Never seen a match yet.
The brass band that plays the visiting team’s national anthem is Whitburn, where I was general secretary for a while, so I had to attend the pre match briefings and organise where we had to be at the right times. Once the band left the pitch, we were done and had to leave. They didn’t let any of the entertainment support watch the match unless they had a ticket.
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Like you, i've been to Murrayfield several times as well and yet to see a Rugby match.
Seen the Pope (in 1982), U2 (3 times), Oasis and REM there though over the years. Quite a combination !!
 
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Been to Murrayfield twice.......for the Rugby league magic weekend.
Only Union I've seen was a Scotland 'A' play South Africa at Mannofield in Aberdeen.
Must be about 20-25 years ago.
I could not believe the sheer size of some of these men.
Mark Andrews . 6ft 7 ". 250lbs.
The only way I would've stopped him is with a gun!
 
greencol said:
Been to Murrayfield twice.....for the Rugby league magic weekend.
Only Union I've seen was a Scotland 'A' play South Africa at Mannofield in Aberdeen.
Must be about 20-25 years ago.
I could not believe the sheer size of some of these men.
Mark Andrews . 6ft 7 ". 250lbs.
The only way I would've stopped him is with a gun!
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Been to the Magic Weekend and the Wigan v St Helens challenge cup final . Superleague starts next weekend , looking forward to that
 
Forzahibs said:
Been to the Magic Weekend and the Wigan v St Helens challenge cup final . Superleague starts next weekend , looking forward to that
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We're gonna get roasted for de railing the thread , but I've seen a couple of Grand Finals at Old Trafford.
Saints v Leeds & Saints v Hull fc.
Fantastic atmosphere.
 
greencol said:
We're gonna get roasted for de railing the thread , but I've seen a couple of Grand Finals at Old Trafford.
Saints v Leeds & Saints v Hull fc.
Fantastic atmosphere.
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Yeah looks fantastic on tv
 
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