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egb_hibs
Private Member
Ed Miliband was spouting on the radio last week thst the driver is now energy security. They must think we zip up the back. All the Ukraine gas crisis demonstrated is we haven't replaced storage facilities...very possibly connected to the green push.
These folk are so used to the narratives that are the London currency that I think at times they forget the electorate is still sentient.
It they want to go hammer and tongs for green, fine. But make an honest case and put it to the voters.
You can see already that this energy crusade is going to blow Labour and / or the country up. Their 100% clean by 2030 is a total fantasy. Archie may insist that we can't draw any conclusions until 1st January 2031, but anyone else can see this has disaster written all over it.
EH17 Jimmy
Private Member
So money needs to be saved. Fair enough. So lead by example.
Abolish cheap drink and subsidised meals in Westmonster. No more taxis. Let them use public transport like the rest of us.
Abolish cheap drink and subsidised meals in Westmonster. No more taxis. Let them use public transport like the rest of us.
And claims for heating their second homes. And bring in windfall tax for the power companies.
EH17 Jimmy
Private Member
Why can't the dafties stay in travelodges when in London?
Or build a tent city for them
Or build a tent city for them
EH17 Jimmy
Private Member
And here dae away with the scran places in Westmonster. They could use local takeaways like everyone else.
Or take a piece with them. Bet no many of the fuckers would have cheese pieces at the end of the week because there's nae wages left.
Or take a piece with them. Bet no many of the fuckers would have cheese pieces at the end of the week because there's nae wages left.
You missed yer place in history Jimmy. Shouldda been around 169 years afore yer birthday, can see you wi' the ladies queueing up to see the bloody heads in the basket as they rolled off fae the guillotine
EH17 Jimmy
Private Member
Hmmm that doesn't sound too bad. Imagine Blair, all the Tory pm', the lib Dems and the weirdos in the greens all lined up.
The seagulls would love to attend that.
The seagulls would love to attend that.
EH17 Jimmy
Private Member
Also get huge crowds. We could make it the execution day experience and make a couple of £'s
I stay in Premier Inns when I am down, it can be £250 a night, that is over a grand a week.
egb_hibs
Private Member
And I can second that.
Even holes in east London which are basically spray-down plastic cells, cost a bomb
EH17 Jimmy
Private Member
Ah but travelodges are cheap. We were staying in them when we worked in Fulham.
Plus there are plenty of takeaways around for them.
Or bed and breakfasts. A bowl of cereal before they head out and boabs yur dug.
Plus there are plenty of takeaways around for them.
Or bed and breakfasts. A bowl of cereal before they head out and boabs yur dug.
Smurf
Private Member
I get and understand the frustration. Apparently there's nearly one million pensioners eligible for Pension Credit but don't claim? I hope they all do.
Smurf
Private Member
UK spending £3 Billion per year on hotels for illegal immigrants coming into the UK. At a time the UK Government is saving just over £1 Billion on scrapping the heating allowance. This is the kind of issue that Reform can run with and gain real traction. Government isn't going to be easy as it isn't...
EH17 Jimmy
Private Member
Slippery strikes again shock. There's even a wee video of him waffling.....
Just two months ago Starmer made a big song and dance about the elderly’s inability to pay their heating bills, which he described in a campaign video as “awful” and “the biggest thing in the world” which “eats away at people“.
Darren Jones sent a formal complaint over rumours that the Winter Fuel Allowance would be means tested last year.
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Just two months ago Starmer made a big song and dance about the elderly’s inability to pay their heating bills, which he described in a campaign video as “awful” and “the biggest thing in the world” which “eats away at people“.
Darren Jones sent a formal complaint over rumours that the Winter Fuel Allowance would be means tested last year.
FLASHBACK: Starmer Says "Awful" Elderly Fuel Bills Are “The Biggest Thing in the World”
Labour's casting around for cash to fund its political projects is descending into farce. They're struggling to keep a straight face on the media round...
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EH17 Jimmy
Private Member
Starmer is going to fuck up mate. A bairn with a biscuit arse can see that.
Folk WILL get more angry. Most of those arriving on boats are housed down south.
Hence the lack of complaints about the situation in Scotland.
He's a two faced cvnt Jimmy.Slippery strikes again shock. There's even a wee video of him waffling.....
Just two months ago Starmer made a big song and dance about the elderly’s inability to pay their heating bills, which he described in a campaign video as “awful” and “the biggest thing in the world” which “eats away at people“.
Darren Jones sent a formal complaint over rumours that the Winter Fuel Allowance would be means tested last year.
FLASHBACK: Starmer Says "Awful" Elderly Fuel Bills Are “The Biggest Thing in the World”
Labour's casting around for cash to fund its political projects is descending into farce. They're struggling to keep a straight face on the media round...
Smurf
Private Member
If only it was all so simple eh.
EH17 Jimmy
Private Member
Nae complaints there Billy. He always has been a party stooge. Say anything to get elected.
Mystic Jim here can see a lot of discontent spring up during Slippery's premiership.
Mystic Jim here can see a lot of discontent spring up during Slippery's premiership.
EH17 Jimmy
Private Member
No one is saying it's simple Smurf. But politicians have to at least TRY and do something
It's what they are paid for.
But whoever shouts loudest will get Slippery's attention. Until someone shouts louder.
That’s not like you to sit on the fence. I agree wholeheartedly, wouldn’t trust him at all.
EH17 Jimmy
Private Member
My dislike of politicians is a secret I hide well. Just reading this and what popped up on the sounds?......
egb_hibs
Private Member
What do you think is so difficult? It didn't used to be like this until very recently. We're not trying to fix an intractable problem that has dogged humanity forever
jetsam1
Radge McRadge of Radge End
What? Greed and psychotic lust for power over others? Been an issue that since Ugg laid claim to the best seat around the fire.
egb_hibs
Private Member
Somebody is going to come out of this looking bad
www.theguardian.com
Hunt ‘knowingly and deliberately’ lied about finances, says Reeves
Chancellor says her predecessor at No 11 covered up true state of the public finances but Hunt rejects claim
www.theguardian.com
Seen that on the news and it reminded me of a Bouncer getting chucked oot the Parliament for the same thing. Unsurprisingly both times it was a Tory that was getting accused. I wonder if she will repeat it at PMQ's? Also wonder if snakey Hoyle will demand an apology?Somebody is going to come out of this looking bad
Hunt ‘knowingly and deliberately’ lied about finances, says Reeves
Chancellor says her predecessor at No 11 covered up true state of the public finances but Hunt rejects claim
Rocky
Private Member
Migrants I think that should say. The previous government destroyed the asylum system so badly that we don't know whether their claims will be accepted or not. Time to get the fecking finger out and process the backlog so we either admit them to become productive members of society or boot them out if they've no right to be here.
Smurf
Private Member
So from what they've inherited what should they do?
egb_hibs
Private Member
Rachel Reeves is turning into George Osborne
It was brutal, ferocious, personal — and effective. Looking out from the dispatch box yesterday afternoon, Rachel Reeves set about trying to dismantle not just the economic record of her opponent, Jeremy Hunt, but his character. The Shadow Chancellor looked shell-shocked. If the Conservative...
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Ryan69
Bounce Mentalist
So how much do you think they are charging the taxpayer?
As you can sure as hell guarantee Premier Inn isn't good enough for these leeches.
The system needs broken down and started again.
It would cause alot of devastation creating a new system....But it needs to happen!
The “energy security” argument is a sham too. Much of our oil is exported and, by the same token much is imported, due to the types of oil produced/required. In fact I’d wager we are importing Russian oil, albeit via another country - which in turn is funding Mad Vlad.
If only. Clearly not happening and with the amount still coming in their numbers, the situation is going to get far far worse. No one seems to want to do anything to stop it though.
jetsam1
Radge McRadge of Radge End
My perspective is that the system is so broken that fixing it will be a mammoth task. You need properly trained Border officials with a bit of nous about them and a proper support system for processing the applications. The backlog is enormous and this is deliberate in my opinion.
Also immigration is an emotive subject so actually trying to be constructive and making a system that can cope and be fair is rather difficult.
Climate change will drive matters though. Imagine what will happen if Bangladesh is made unviable by sea level rise? You not talking a few thousands on the move you are talking millions.....
egb_hibs
Private Member
The position in the UK is that the tories, like new labour before them, have wanted lots and lots of inexpensive immigrants, and the gross number coming in per year is already a million plus.
It seems to me that illegal immigration, which is a sideshow by comparison, is a handy thing with which to divert attention. That said Yvette Cooper seems to be signalling she’s likely to naturalise a whole bunch in the backlog. In tandem with Labour removing disincentives like the Rwanda scheme, this is surely going to continue to ramp up numbers increasing since Labour took office. More new voters for them, more dead people in the channel, more infrastructure collapse… but still a sideshow compared to the legal migration picture.
As you note, the pressures are only going to get worse. Soon there really could be huge numbers of refugees on the move, versus the substantially economic migration we see today - although there are of course genuine refugees. If this doesn’t get sorted out we are in deep trouble. The first problem before dealing with the emotive point you rightly raise, is dealing with the deep dishonesty that surrounds all this which is propelling people into the arms of equal and opposing liars on the far right.
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paigntonhibby
Private Member
Rocky we cannae even deport rapists and other criminals because of civil rights and immigration lawyers and soft c#nts on planes blocking them so we've no chance of kicking anybody else out.
The only solution is stop the boats. Some fucker must know who's making a fortune out of selling rubber dinghies.
One things for sure a lot of those coming over have no intention of becoming productive members of society and govt inaction is only going to cause more racial tension and drive voters towards what some see as extreme parties but who others see as parties that will listen to their concerns.
The Dutch and Polish govts get a lot of stick for putting their own citizens 1st, I don't see a lot wrong with that .
egb_hibs
Private Member
We could always leave the ECHR and, like NHS reform, it would be better if Labour did that than the Tories. Starmer would be in his element drawing up a UK alternative - although there is always a danger it could be even more problematic.
EH17 Jimmy
Private Member
Here I'm a lying cvnt. Would yous vote for me?
paigntonhibby
Private Member
Stop sending billions in aid to countries that are spending money on space projects or building up their armed forces, maybe then we can stop pensioners dying of cold.
And maybe put pensioners before illegal immigrants and c#nts that make a career living off benefits.
kaimendhibs
Private Member
I am disgusted at the news about winter fuel payments for pensioners. Basically if you have worked, paid taxes, saved money/paid into a pension you will be fucked over. Sit on your hole, spend, spend, spend, take benefit (Im not talking about people who genuinely need/deserve) them and are sorted.
Starmer is a red tory.
Starmer is a red tory.
