Those numbers are shocking (I'll assume they're correct or near to) as they are in Palestine, the key question becomes a) what can realistically be done on humanitarian grounds and what if any responsibility or influence do we have, alone or in part. What I don't know is how much this is complicity, impotence or neglect/indifference on the part of the Nigerian government. If they're culpable of genocide (which this sounds like) I'd support a similar range of actions I proposed against Israel - sanctions, arms embargo, ICJ etc actions I note you have chosen not to support in that case
Cool. When i said i would support the UK government taking what action it can against Israeli excesses such as food blockades, it is deemed performative hand wringing. I'm not really sure how we differ based on what you say here, other than I want israels misdeeds penalised, I dont seek their destruction.
Shouldn't take that but if our government are actively enabling genocide in Nigeria then yes I'd support activism. Why do you think little or nothing is being done currently? There are iirc sanctions in place in Sudan against SAF/RSF affiliates. ..from afar feels similar.....
one reason I suspect nothing is done is noone gives a shit. It gets next to no air time. Far from this being similar to sanctioning Sudan the UK entered into a strategic partnership with Nigeria in November of last year.
www.gov.uk
As previously noted, Nigeria has also been key to the 'Boris wave' engineered to crush working class wage inflation post brexit
The bottom line is noone gives a fuck. Like they don't about similar, if not on the same scale, all across Africa. No one gives a fuck about particular mincers in Syria, Sudan, DRC, Yemen. No-one gives a fuck when Jews arent involved. That's the bottom line. I mean just look at the contrast: we've had hundreds of thousands on the streets for months, obsessive media coverage, outright derangement from academics, celebs etc, a whole potentially major party launched with this front and centre....when its just one of many contemporary shitshows, far from the worst, and also not the only one where we are involved with actors. About the rest....well you pretty much have to search out niche media to find theyre happening at all. Its demented.
I am equally impotent on all of them, and I dont understand the singular preoccupation with one of them. I raised Nigeria because your argument for that was, as I understood it, that unlike others we were more involved with Israel. Nigeria is a case that refutes that as a distinction. It doesnt make it more or less important than Gaza, or Syria (whose new boys we armed), or etc
Firstly I read that as though the comment applied to the synagogue of the rabbi in the film not all Jews or all synagogues. Secondly I think putting everything down to anti-Semitism is both insulting, reductive and counter productive. We've been over this ad naseum
I don't tend to treat Ryan's posts seriously tbh doesn't mean he's always wrong but the conspiracy theory stuff doesn't seem worth engaging with so I just don't pay that much attention to any of it.
Well that is, shall we say, a charitable interpretation. Quite remarkably so in fact, and again I doubt it would have gone unremarked (and not just by you) had he reproduced it verbatim except with an Islamic ranter.
The jews being satanic is a theme of his, along with other stuff about jewish orchestrated white genocide, and lots else besides. All of which similarly escapes the attention of everyone but me. I guess why shall have to remain a mystery. Along with the free pass given to conspiracy theory from several others - i repeat, i give Ryan credit at least for knowing what he is doing more than others drinking from the same well, but with the far left packaging nazi source materials for them.
this blindness to stuff he posts frequently is more pronounced a) in the context of a board where people get furious about statements of fact, legitimate concerns, and other things about problems relating to other ethnic groups and b) those that claim to ignore his nonsense get wired into him for every other expression of it. Including where he actually has a point, which sometimes he does, despite his self sabotage wrapping it in nonsense. But I fail to see why people can get animated by whacky but harmless flat earth nonsense while apparently finding assertions that a cabal of jews are intent on white genocide- literally a retread of one of the most dangerous tropes in history - are beneath their attention.
Others have used this ignore him line before. I'm sorry, I just dont believe it.
Let me correct you, I linked to one comedian from the article I could read in the National who was clearly pro Israeli govt in his politics and activism on line, I can understand if a venue would be reluctant to showcase that because imo that's pro genocide. I stated there may be more to the story than I was aware of which implies hopefully that I'm open to correction. But my initial reading was there was no evidence that venues had a ban on Jewish performers.
I see nothing in that article attributed to this fella that is any way controversial, certainly not compared to Kneecap, say. Funnily enough I remember you being rather scornful of those of us who thought these middle class poseurs are arseholes
but who also didnt believe they should be cancelled . Then there is Rachel Creeger, who as far as i know has done nothing whatsoever apart from be Jewish. I provided her as an example.
How can you honestly expect me to see not to see this as double standards, at best?
While you can only speak with authority for yourself, we both know that the lions share of those involved in the fringe, would similarly be first to the defence of the likes of Kneecap.
Israel is treated differently, and so are jews.
I couldn't read your citation, I've no idea about that case hence me concentrating on the one I could read about.
Sorry to say that while I'm interested in political theory and seek to apply core principles to my positioning I'll a) do that imperfectly and b) seek compromise if it means securing less bad outcomes. So while my position is to question the legitimacy of state power for each scenario it is used, when state power is a bulwark against for example what I see as the threat of the nativist right I won't fight that battle as hard as I would others. I do think Lucy Connolly case for example probably didn't merit the response of the state and have said so you can look it up if you're so inclined. The facts of that case are pretty distasteful (what she wrote) so I'm not really going to spend time on that sort of thing tbh
This is long enough already without getting into open ended terrain so I'll cede this one here.
Edit - i see you've just disliked a post where I give an objectively measurable way of assessing genocide, given what genocide means. You are welcome to explain what you found dislikable if you wish.
www.genocidewatch.com
www.persecution.org
… hamas in the aud queues to start sites getting fired at aid Queues?
, what would it actually take to convince them 
