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bigmanandy said:
Yeah i could but they aint open today are they? or its a wee bit late now.....because if they where to come out say tommorow, how would i know (they probaly wont, i think they will come out a week on monday) but i need to make sure, so i'll send a wee e-mail to Judith at the ticket office and ask her.

I see a bit of progress has been made, it now comes up 'Server down'.
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I think you're trying to get off with Judith you know :wink:
 
KABULHIBBY said:
Now far be it for me to suggest things but IF you live in an area that is full of people that steal car wheels I think it's your moral and civic duty to protect this mans wheels. I suggest you rush down to the local vehicle spares emporium and buy a set of locking wheel nuts and replace his with those......They only unfortunate thing is that you wouldn't be able to give him the key as he wont be there when you carry out this good deed :smilie_auslachen::twisted:
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Mmmm :hmmm :coffee: Oh and you never answered your last PM. Do you want a delivery :dunno: A fortnights a long time. :wink:
 
HibbyJill said:
The fault lies with their server so there is no point blaming the club. Does Stuart Crowther work 7 days a week? Maybe he's not at work just now to send mass emails. It was Hibernian Interactive who made the post on .net - presumably when doing the highlights.I dont know if they have accounts on this board or elsewhere. Maybe instead of moaning the admins could contact the club and suggest that in the future they could be conatcted to pass the info on to the supporters.
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As was said at the start of the thread "if you pay peanuts...".

Everything about the official site stinks of cheapness. Apparently the new media manager has 'been working on this all day', yet the solution is that the servers needs a hard reboot, ie switched off and back on again (the techy solution to all ills). How does it take all day to come to the conclusion that the server needs rebooted. Also, wtf is the new media manager doing diagnosing IT problems. Ok, that is his background but surely we have some IT staff on the books.

From having looked at a 'holding page' http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/index.htm it would appear that they need the help of the people at the datacenter to sort it. Also it has taken so long to get sorted because they couldn't get someone out to the datacentre. Working in IT myself this poses 2 obvious questions. 1 - what kind of datacentre doesn't have their web servers clustered in case one of them has problems. 2 - Why hasn't the server got a remote control board, allowing the server to be manged (and rebooted) remotely.

Sorry for over-techying things, but like I said above - everything about the Hibs website reeks of cheapness.
 
stretch said:
Mmmm :hmmm :coffee: Oh and you never answered your last PM. Do you want a delivery :dunno: A fortnights a long time. :wink:
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Sorry was going to but was called out for work, it's OK I'll pick it up from you at the Hearts game mate. Thanks again for that.
 
16StMarysStreet said:
As was said at the start of the thread "if you pay peanuts...".

Everything about the official site stinks of cheapness. Apparently the new media manager has 'been working on this all day', yet the solution is that the servers needs a hard reboot, ie switched off and back on again (the techy solution to all ills). How does it take all day to come to the conclusion that the server needs rebooted. Also, wtf is the new media manager doing diagnosing IT problems. Ok, that is his background but surely we have some IT staff on the books.

From having looked at a 'holding page' http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/index.htm it would appear that they need the help of the people at the datacenter to sort it. Also it has taken so long to get sorted because they couldn't get someone out to the datacentre. Working in IT myself this poses 2 obvious questions. 1 - what kind of datacentre doesn't have their web servers clustered in case one of them has problems. 2 - Why hasn't the server got a remote control board, allowing the server to be manged (and rebooted) remotely.

Sorry for over-techying things, but like I said above - everything about the Hibs website reeks of cheapness.
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Because the last thing you want to do with a server is take it through a hard reboot if you don't need to, there is too much potential data loss/corruption should things not go according to plan especially if you're using cheap server soloutions with no disk redundancy.

Wouldn't think that Hibs would have bespoke IT bods, after all they'd want the market rate for the job and we know the club are constantly looking at cost cutting measures.

There is one other thing,quite a few datacentres leave out of hours/weekend problems to call centre staff who follow a crib sheet, 90% of the stuff they go through is the automatic things field engineers do when they tip up on a call.
 
tbh the official site is quite crap. News is rubbish. Information is okay. the only thing hibs have done kind-of well on is the Interactive. The design of the site is too boring too. i want a modern fully function great website for our now modern great team.
 
KABULHIBBY said:
...especially if you're using cheap server soloutions with no disk redundancy.

Wouldn't think that Hibs would have bespoke IT bods, after all they'd want the market rate for the job and we know the club are constantly looking at cost cutting measures.
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Surely even Hibs would not cost cut to the level of having no disk redundancy :dunno:

Also, how many Computers, Printers, Networks connections and servers must Hibs have. If they haven't got a dedicated member of IT staff then it is nonsense. Having said that anyone who is in that job is going to have the new media manager meddling and sticking his nose in and telling him how to do his job ("I'm 90% sure if you reboot it that will sort it").

Silky said:
WTF !! I've just been redirected to http://www.s170864314.websitehome.co.uk/index.htm whats this ??
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It is the url for the company that Hibs rent their web server from. You actually see this url when the web site is working properly. It's just another example of the cheapness of it all.

Take a look at their server options and take a guess which one you think Hibs have gone for - WebsiteHome.co.uk
 
16StMarysStreet said:
As was said at the start of the thread "if you pay peanuts...".

Everything about the official site stinks of cheapness. Apparently the new media manager has 'been working on this all day', yet the solution is that the servers needs a hard reboot, ie switched off and back on again (the techy solution to all ills). How does it take all day to come to the conclusion that the server needs rebooted. Also, wtf is the new media manager doing diagnosing IT problems. Ok, that is his background but surely we have some IT staff on the books.

From having looked at a 'holding page' http://www.hibernianfc.co.uk/index.htm it would appear that they need the help of the people at the datacenter to sort it. Also it has taken so long to get sorted because they couldn't get someone out to the datacentre. Working in IT myself this poses 2 obvious questions. 1 - what kind of datacentre doesn't have their web servers clustered in case one of them has problems. 2 - Why hasn't the server got a remote control board, allowing the server to be manged (and rebooted) remotely.

Sorry for over-techying things, but like I said above - everything about the Hibs website reeks of cheapness.
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usually cause some humpty has changed the ILO/RSA password and no told anybody. :giggle:

Clustering is good point though but then then thats going to cost, as would a decent set up on ADG :hmmm

If its anything like where I work, they faff around debating about the pros and cons of bouncing the box and then cack themselves when they realise the backups have been failing for the last month :rollfloor
 
The official website is probably run as cheaply as that feckin embarrasment of a match day programme. I'm 90% sure there is one feckwit involved in both :hmmm
 
Silky said:

Free 24/7 Support :lookaround: :doh wasn't 1&1 the server hibs.net used and it fooked up so many times ? you would think they would learn eh :giggle:
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It was indeed, I personally emailed Stuart Crowther at the time of his taking over the official site to advise that he did not use 1&1. I used the hibs.net issues as justification and also the fact I worked for 1&1's owner and seen the support staff at work (Newcastle is where they were based at the time for .co.uk). In fact, this very site used to be hosted on 1&1 and it was one of the first changes I put forward when I had joined the admin team. In Summary, I'm not surprised this has happened, more so that it has taken his long.

In his defence, Stuart decided to stay with 1&1 because they hadn't experienced any problems with the official site, up to now that is. Obviously this will give them something to think about, however i'd be worried that there is no redundancy at all. Also, this holding page many have spoken about I cannot open without the direct url (pointless then) and none of the other files appear to be there, so are we looking at a server crash and a restore is now in progress?
 
Daryll said:
In his defence, Stuart decided to stay with 1&1 because they hadn't experienced any problems with the official site, up to now that is........ Obviously this will give them something to think about, however i'd be worried that there is no redundancy at all.
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If you ask me he will have stayed with them because a) he couldn't be arsed making the effort to look around for another hosting company and b) they were the cheapest around.

Your point about having something to think about is an interesting one. You honestly think there will be much said when the new media manager has his weekly meeting with his boss (who would is his boss). He will slopey shoulder the blame onto 1&1. Teflon Don Cundt.
 
hibbybrian said:
Official site now up and running:wink:
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The Chick Young quotation sticks in my throat on every visit - Who gives a flying fuck what that wee 'XYZ will be a Rangers Player tomorrow lunchtime..' thinks?

Maybe a quotation from Eddie Turnbull would be more appropriate or this one from John Collins in view of our next fixture..

“I’d pay to watch Hibs, they play my kind of football,” he says. “I was disappointed in the standards at the Hearts v Celtic game. I counted it, each goalkeeper threw the ball out twice in 90 minutes and kicked it up the park 30, 35 times. I wouldn't pay to watch [Hearts]. Everybody’s got different beliefs."

John Collins. Ex Hibernian and Scottish Football Legend.

If your interested the rest of an excellent interview is here..

http://www.timesonline.co.uk/newspaper/0,,176-2383316_2,00.html
 
I believe that a lot of the punters on here having a moan at Crowther is because they were emptied from .net a while back and have now came on here occassionaly spitting venom at the man.

Obviously its none of my business about personal vendetta's but can everyone no chill out? Saying that it does make rather amusing reading and interactive are wrong not highlighting important on ALL fans forums. I presume they choose to post only on the main message board (sorry Jamie) as they have the original clique who all seem to have something to do with interactive. Just my opinion though :wink:
 
hibbybrian said:
Official site now up and running:wink:
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The official site is a classic example of a web site that exists because of a "we have to have a web site, everyone else has one" mentality as opposed to having a website to provide a service. I had the misfortune to be looking for a particular result from way back on it. The search facility or lack thereof is really poor and the navigation appalling. Rather than have the results broken down by season etc they are in one large table that goes over 302 pages and you have to take a guess where the result you are looking for comes in.

Having read the previous threads relating to the setup of the Hibs web servers and also coming from a technical background it comes across that Hibs have indeed looked for the cheap option which backs up the theory that the official site is something that they 'have to have' rather than a source of all information for fans, fantastic marketing tool, and great opportunity to show the club as forward thinking. It should be the first stop for Hibs fans when they get into their work on a Monday morning :wink: but how many people, both here and over on hibs.net can say it is ?
 
Happyhibs62 said:
I believe that a lot of the punters on here having a moan at Crowther is because they were emptied from .net a while back and have now came on here occassionaly spitting venom at the man.

Obviously its none of my business about personal vendetta's but can everyone no chill out? Saying that it does make rather amusing reading and interactive are wrong not highlighting important on ALL fans forums. I presume they choose to post only on the main message board (sorry Jamie) as they have the original clique who all seem to have something to do with interactive. Just my opinion though :wink:
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Sorry to dissapoint mate, I wasn't bumped from Hibs.net and don't have any personal vendetta agains Stuart Crowther. I am just of the opinion that he is a bit of a 'Jack of all trades' who is out of his depth.
 
Happyhibs62 said:
I believe that a lot of the punters on here having a moan at Crowther is because they were emptied from .net a while back and have now came on here occassionaly spitting venom at the man.

Obviously its none of my business about personal vendetta's but can everyone no chill out? Saying that it does make rather amusing reading and interactive are wrong not highlighting important on ALL fans forums. I presume they choose to post only on the main message board (sorry Jamie) as they have the original clique who all seem to have something to do with interactive. Just my opinion though :wink:
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Don't know about others but I certainly was not emptied by any of the Admins or Cpl Jones on Hitler.Net, still have my original monicker just detest the kindergarden feel that that site has.
 
Apologies Ladies & Gents thats just what I was picking up between the lines......totally agree with being treated like a Kid over there though :red:
 
SC has apologised for his apology for his website being down:

Stuart Crowther said:
"Thanks to everyone for their patience, well most everyone anyway! We will be taking a look at the reasons for this happening of course and sorry for the loss of service throughout Sunday."
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Stuart Crowther said:
Just one post to apologise if anyone was offended. My statement was not intended in any way to offend, I was trying to be light-hearted in pointing out that not everyone was 'patient' in waiting for the official site fault to be fixed, I was pretty impatient myself.
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Actually, reading it again, it contains the word apologise but is just him vindicating himself. Anyway, since no one was really offended, it doesn't really matter.:rollfloor
 
Happyhibs62 said:
Apologies Ladies & Gents thats just what I was picking up between the lines......totally agree with being treated like a Kid over there though :red:
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Never pick things up between the lines you may be struck by a train :coffee:
 
Don't stand too close on the platform either, or a train might come along and suck you off. :lookaround:
 
Stuart Crowther said:
Just one post to apologise if anyone was offended. My statement was not intended in any way to offend, I was trying to be light-hearted in pointing out that not everyone was 'patient' in waiting for the official site fault to be fixed, I was pretty impatient myself.
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An apology from the never wrong :shock:

Don't think it will be the last now that he is accountable to someone for a change. He has realised that he's no longer the head honcho and actually has to watch what he is doing and saying. Can't go taking pops at those who pay your wages now Mr C can we ?
 
Dixie Chicken said:
Him and the Pope in the same month. :shock:
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One of those 2 is worshipped by many, who would travel thousands of miles to be in his presence and would defend every word he says with their last breath. The other is the head of the Catholic Church :rollfloor
 
16StMarysStreet said:
And out of the 24 threads started by him/her/them look how many are adverts for Hibernian Interactive as opposed to helpful information ie explaning that the official site is down.

Hibernian Interactive have an account on here for one purpose, to sell HI memberships :red:
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They even try to punt DVD's on his.net.http://www.hibs.net/message/showthread.php?t=55435 and then have a wee pop at the Jmon :laff: :laff: They are funny as feck, and never cease to amaze me. They lighten up a dreary day. :rollfloor :rollfloor
 
stretch said:
They even try to punt DVD's on his.net.http://www.hibs.net/message/showthread.php?t=55435 and then have a wee pop at the Jmon :laff: :laff: They are funny as feck, and never cease to amaze me. They lighten up a dreary day. :rollfloor :rollfloor
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Prob think i'm selling them, dear o dear whatever next :lookaround:

i'll be banned from sayin who scored if the guy next to me asks..

"canny comment mate,might get banned" :laff: :banger: :banger:
 
Jamie said:
Prob think i'm selling them, dear o dear whatever next :lookaround:

i'll be banned from sayin who scored if the guy next to me asks..

"canny comment mate,might get banned" :laff: :banger: :banger:
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Are you no likes :dunno: :wink: :laff: :laff: :laff: :laff:

Oh what have I done. :hmmm The .net gang will be talking about you now,and they will be polishing the jackboots. :laff: :YAYYY: :laff: :YAYYY:
 
stretch said:
Are you no likes :dunno: :wink: :laff: :laff: :laff: :laff:
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NO i'm not,FFS I seen a hibs dvd on ebay and pointed it out, now I'm adverbloodytising for mysel

i'll tell ye if i get a letter from hibs about it I will take it to the papers,no shitting if they wanna accuse me then fine but they are way way off the mark


stretch said:
Oh what have I done. :hmmm The .net gang will be talking about you now,and they will be polishing the jackboots. :laff: :YAYYY: :laff: :YAYYY:
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They already am, like i'm fuckin bothered :lookaround: :lookaround:
 
Jamie said:
NO i'm not,FFS I seen a hibs dvd on ebay and pointed it out, now I'm adverbloodytising for mysel
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"Calm down" "Calm Down" I was only kidding my man. :smug: :smug: :smug:
 
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