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Mags said:
Why would Askou want to leave M’well for Hibs?
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Let me ask you why you think Askou would not leave Motherwell for Hibs. If we could speak to Askou maybe he could answer any questions we care to ask---------------------Fuck it! This is too confusing
 
Hattie said:
Far more potential for a good manager is one reason… unless you think ’Well have the finances and infrastructure we have 👀
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No, I don’t think they have the finances, but right now he has a team playing good football. Why not see how far he can take them?
 
numptyploom said:
Let me ask you why you think Askou would not leave Motherwell for Hibs. If we could speak to Askou maybe he could answer any questions we care to ask---------------------Fuck it! This is too confusing
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I don’t think he would leave M’well at the moment for Hibs. His team are playing good football. Why not stay at least until the end of the season?
 
baggageandfibs said:
The new manager...maybe we've got our wires crosse here :) I want a new manager and understand the wish to clear out the backroom staff, I would as well. I just think there is a place for Gray if he's wanted and wants to stay.
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Sorry if we are making changes it’s because he is the main issue. He shouldn’t be anywhere near the club.
 
Gray should have been away after Russel Martins Rangers team (who couldn't buy a win) beat us 2-0 in the league cup when Gray absolutely shat the bed. Out of both cup comps without even scoring a goal. Horrendous.

Today was a fuckin joke. Talk about absolutely collapsing. Gray hasn't a clue what he's doing, he and those clowns alongside him need to go now.
 
Hermit Crab said:
Gray should have been away after Russel Martins Rangers team (who couldn't buy a win) beat us 2-0 in the league cup when Gray absolutely shat the bed. Out of both cup comps without even scoring a goal. Horrendous.

Today was a fuckin joke. Talk about absolutely collapsing. Gray hasn't a clue what he's doing, he and those clowns alongside him need to go now.
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Explain our run in last year and excellent performance early in `Europe. Not a trick question, I genuinely want your opinion.
 
numptyploom said:
Explain our run in last year and excellent performance early in `Europe. Not a trick question, I genuinely want your opinion.
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Luck and confidence that brings momentum but I don't believe for a minute Gray masterminded that run last season. If he did then why are we so shite now then? We played 30 minutes of good football away to Legia. If the Serbs keep 11 men on the park in both legs we get scudded as they were better than us. The Danes underestimated us making it look like we did well against them where in reality if we played them tomorrow they'd easily take double figures off us.
 
kaimendhibs said:
I am dumfounded at the change since Europe. I was in Warsaw and Herning (pre booked trip with wife I missed Belgrade). The fight, spirit, no little skill was what we all want from Hibs. Its gone. Why?
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Poor players and poor tactics doesn't help for a start. 3 at the back with no RWB meaning we are playing boys out of position. Shite strikers, Bowie the huddie, Boyles finished and Klidje is...well Klidje. Shan squad of players bar one or two. Even Sallinger looked like he'd never kicked a football today.
 
If I was David I'd be having open and frank discussions with the senior players and asking if they still want to play for him?? I'd then ask them to discuss it with the rest of the group and get back to him.

From what I've just witnessed over the last two games ,it would appear to show they are possibly losing faith in him.

We all know players can have a major say how long managers last due to their performances on the pitch.

I'm not seeing some players 'busting a gut' at the moment. The intensity in which we are moving the ball seems slow and ponderous . This just allows teams to close off the options which inevitably leads to turnover balls and a loss of momentum.

You can tell the falkirk players were playing for the mgr yesterday. You could say the same last week for the dunfermline team. Motherwell seem to be up for it too with the way they press as a unit.

We seem to have too many players who's confidence is evidently lacking at the moment.

Is this squarely at Davids door? I honestly don't know! I'm not making excuses but his hands would appear to be tied when it comes to bringing players in at the moment.This leads me to suspect finances may not be in a good place?

We have a weaker squad from last season imo and David will know the areas that have needed strengthened for quite some time.

He gets to the End of the season for me . He deserves that right to try and change the current slump due to the way in which he turned it around last season. He will know if results and performances continue in a similar vain then it will be over for him.

The 1st half against hearts is probably the best ive seen us play this season. It showed me that there's a good team there when they decide to turn up. I really hope Gray can rekindle that spark of passion and intensity to our play.

I have a feeling we are at a crossroads as club as I suspect many of the current squad won't be here next season . This uncertainty in some players could also be a contributing factor in our recent performances?
 
Someone earlier suggested no Falkirk player would get in Hibs team. I would love to see Calvin Miller play for us, but who would be in the box? Guy who scored hat trick, brilliant movement and awareness in the box
 
Hermit Crab said:
Shan squad of players bar one or two.
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I am really surprised you describing the players like this when you were full of praise, as most of us were, earlier in the season.
These are the same players that tore into the Jamboes for an hour, equalled the good play of Motherwell a couple of weeks ago and had us all absolutely buzzing when we were 3-1 up in Warsaw.
Today - these same players- - were actually a shadow of the above. These players were making incredibly poor passes, failing to pick up their men, looked as though they couldn't be bothered tracking back and for some unfathomable reason indulged in some of the worst decision making we've seen for a long time. And yet I know these are good players. David Gray didn't instruct them to play like that - but they did. Today the fault lay entirely with the Hibs players on the park.
 
BVilleggiante said:
I'm sticking with Gray....my god, I love The Bounce but sometimes I just have to not log in for a few days. Look at the overall stats. Actually pull back and look at the stats and not just the last two matches.
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Virtually every game v Rantic, European exit 🤷
 
If Hibs come in 3rd last year and then even 5th this year...yeah, it' f@cking crap but it still matches the best they've done since all the way back to their 74/75 back to back seasons where they finished 2nd and then 3rd the following season. If you want a comparative season to now you have to go all the way back to 95/96 when we finished 3rd and then 5th the next year...30 years ago. My god, I hate to say this but if you expect better than what we're doing right now then maybe you need to support a different club because frankly, Hibs with regards to consistency have been absolute f@cking garbage for years. Maybe it's not the manager...maybe it's the clubs structure and funding capabilities as a whole. 30+ years of inconsistent garbage is not a managers fault, it's bigger than that from the top down. Love it or hate it...Hibs are what they are.
 
BVilleggiante said:
If Hibs come in 3rd last year and then even 5th this year...yeah, it' f@cking crap but it still matches the best they've done since all the way back to their 74/75 back to back seasons where they finished 2nd and then 3rd the following season. If you want a comparative season to now you have to go all the way back to 95/96 when we finished 3rd and then 5th the next year...30 years ago. My god, I hate to say this but if you expect better than what we're doing right now then maybe you need to support a different club because frankly, Hibs with regards to consistency have been absolute f@cking garbage for years. Maybe it's not the manager...maybe it's the clubs structure and funding capabilities as a whole. 30+ years of inconsistent garbage is not a managers fault, it's bigger than that from the top down. Love it or hate it...Hibs are what they are.
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I've never used the term "accepting mediocrity" so commonly used on Hibs forums. Never really fully understood it but by fuck I've got it now! ⬆️
I've been a Hibby for 58 years and seen way more shite than good believe me, but there is no reason why fans shouldn't always want to see more from our club.
 
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If it wasn't copyrighted by another club, I'd expect someone on here to post, "We are the people!"
The absolute state of this thread😕.
The delusion and sense of entitlement are staggering.
I lasted 11 months back in what's now the first "Fourth World" country in The West's social engineering experiment.
I'm out of here.
 
Glenmore Road said:
If it wasn't copyrighted by another club, I'd expect someone on here to post, "We are the people!"
The absolute state of this thread😕.
The delusion and sense of entitlement are staggering.
I lasted 11 months back in what's now the first "Fourth World" country in The West's social engineering experiment.
I'm out of here.
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joethehibby said:
Sit down
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No you - james - song 👍
Mr Hibs said:
If I was David I'd be having open and frank discussions with the senior players and asking if they still want to play for him?? I'd then ask them to discuss it with the rest of the group and get back to him.

From what I've just witnessed over the last two games ,it would appear to show they are possibly losing faith in him.

We all know players can have a major say how long managers last due to their performances on the pitch.

I'm not seeing some players 'busting a gut' at the moment. The intensity in which we are moving the ball seems slow and ponderous . This just allows teams to close off the options which inevitably leads to turnover balls and a loss of momentum.

You can tell the falkirk players were playing for the mgr yesterday. You could say the same last week for the dunfermline team. Motherwell seem to be up for it too with the way they press as a unit.

We seem to have too many players who's confidence is evidently lacking at the moment.

Is this squarely at Davids door? I honestly don't know! I'm not making excuses but his hands would appear to be tied when it comes to bringing players in at the moment.This leads me to suspect finances may not be in a good place?

We have a weaker squad from last season imo and David will know the areas that have needed strengthened for quite some time.

He gets to the End of the season for me . He deserves that right to try and change the current slump due to the way in which he turned it around last season. He will know if results and performances continue in a similar vain then it will be over for him.

The 1st half against hearts is probably the best ive seen us play this season. It showed me that there's a good team there when they decide to turn up. I really hope Gray can rekindle that spark of passion and intensity to our play.

I have a feeling we are at a crossroads as club as I suspect many of the current squad won't be here next season . This uncertainty in some players could also be a contributing factor in our recent performances?
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says it all really, especially the first paragraph . But he also needs to look at the fact his system / formation isn’t working and needs changing 🤔
 
DG looks extremely worried all the time and that must cross over to the players . Whether he isn’t getting help / suggestions from his assistants or he isn’t listening is the question . He can possibly turn it round but change needs to happen or we’ll be saying he’s lost the dressing room . A win against the rangers could be a catalyst, hopefully Hanley gets over his slump and O’Hora ( our most consistent defender ) is back . Mibby making Warren captain could help, just a thought 🤔
 
PILTONSTANY said:
It’s not but no one said a word when were 18 unbeaten last season.
It’s been a shite week but we were 5 unbeaten in the league before today and that was with players away at Afcon and injuries.

If we make top 6 (4th or 5th preferably for Europe) then historically DG will have done better than most in the last 25 years.

Just don’t see the point in punting a manager now when 4th is the highest achievable this season anyway.

Helpful if Malky gets us a RB and striker this week.
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I hope Mallky is looking for a stand in for Milligan if he is out for 8 weeks, would be suicide not to.
 
eckmf said:
I hope Mallky is looking for a stand in for Milligan if he is out for 8 weeks, would be suicide not to.
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I demand we sign John McGinn to cover... 😉💚

You'd like to think him being out would give an opportunity for a younger player to get a wee opportunity.
 
Cavalier said:
And we tried really hard to throw that away with mindless substitutions. 5 mins longer and it would have been a draw.
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Ifs and Buts mate, we equally coulda been 4 or 5 nowt up after an hour.

We’ve lost 1 of our last 6 league games and injuries are taking their toll.
Yesterday was abso shite in the wind and rain, it made me question the players commitment at times, they’re due us a performance against the Huns.

Still think 4th is do able as I’d rather look up in life than down 👌
 
Hermit Crab said:
We were a Sallinger shin pad away from a disaster. If that goes in we then go on to lose the game because we would have shat it.
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But it didn't. We were a legia Warsaw player sclaffing a shot away from making group stage European football. Or a ridiculous penalty given against rocky from making group stage football.
 
eckmf said:
I hope Mallky is looking for a stand in for Milligan if he is out for 8 weeks, would be suicide not to.
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So we should copy the savilles now and buy replacements every time we get an injury. And what about when mulligan is back ?
 
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