Venezuela

[egb_hibs]

Been a while since Venezuela was a cause celebre (and forum darling) but congratulations to president Maduro on his amazing election victory. Defying expectations with 51% of the vote, when exit polls had shown the opposition on 70%, Madders stands tall with his vision vindicated by the electorate. Promises of bloodshed if defeated I think we can put down to exhaustion after a gruelling electoral campaign.

Its all quite reminiscent of Trump tbh.

 

[HaarlemShuffler]

As soon as they start wearing clothes in the colours of their country's flag, you know the addiction to power is strong in them.

That, and refusing various monitoring groups. Sad.

 

[hibbybilly]

Is that where

Been a while since Venezuela was a cause celebre (and forum darling) but congratulations to president Maduro on his amazing election victory. Defying expectations with 51% of the vote, when exit polls had shown the opposition on 70%, Madders stands tall with his vision vindicated by the electorate. Promises of bloodshed if defeated I think we can put down to exhaustion after a gruelling electoral campaign.

Its all quite reminiscent of Trump tbh.

Seen a bit on the news. They were all going Caracas.

 

[Smurf]

Been a while since Venezuela was a cause celebre (and forum darling) but congratulations to president Maduro on his amazing election victory. Defying expectations with 51% of the vote, when exit polls had shown the opposition on 70%, Madders stands tall with his vision vindicated by the electorate. Promises of bloodshed if defeated I think we can put down to exhaustion after a gruelling electoral campaign.

Its all quite reminiscent of Trump tbh.

It's all a superb advertisement for proper socialism eh....

 

[Ryan69]

Been a while since Venezuela was a cause celebre (and forum darling) but congratulations to president Maduro on his amazing election victory. Defying expectations with 51% of the vote, when exit polls had shown the opposition on 70%, Madders stands tall with his vision vindicated by the electorate. Promises of bloodshed if defeated I think we can put down to exhaustion after a gruelling electoral campaign.

Its all quite reminiscent of Trump tbh.

Trump derangement syndrome kicking in I see.

When did he ever say that? Cause he didn't.

 

[egb_hibs]

Trump derangement syndrome kicking in I see.

When did he ever say that? Cause he didn't.

He has been misrepresented by the establishment press on certain things, but if you think he hasn’t tried to undermine the result of the last election - after apparently trying to actually overturn it - then you are just as deranged as his many hysterical opponents.

You don’t have to pick a tribe in this. Stick to the truth wherever it leads.

 

[Ryan69]

The election was stolen..that's a fact.

If you have states that have 5 million eligable people to vote...how can there be 7 million votes there?
Water pipe bursts that stopped counting...but CCTV showed counters pulling out suitcases of ballots and putting them through machines.
Mail in ballots that had never been folded(so how did they fit in the envelopes?

There's so much evidence.

You don't honestly think that a senile old man who campaigned from his basement got the most votes any candidate had ever received?

Funnily enough Trump got the second most votes anyone had ever received.

That simply doesn't happen in a single election.

Thats before you even go into FBI hiding a laptop showing the Biden family corruption.

 

[egb_hibs]

The election was stolen..that's a fact.

If you have states that have 5 million eligable people to vote...how can there be 7 million votes there?
Water pipe bursts that stopped counting...but CCTV showed counters pulling out suitcases of ballots and putting them through machines.
Mail in ballots that had never been folded(so how did they fit in the envelopes?

There's so much evidence.

You don't honestly think that a senile old man who campaigned from his basement got the most votes any candidate had ever received?

Funnily enough Trump got the second most votes anyone had ever received.

That simply doesn't happen in a single election.

Thats before you even go into FBI hiding a laptop showing the Biden family corruption.

Which state had 7 million votes from 5 million voters?

I agree with you on the agency support for the Biden’s and have posted on the subject. One set of bad behaviour doesn’t negate another though.

And it’s perfectly possible for highly significant votes to have record numbers on either side. See Brexit for example. We have become used to low turnouts in the age of uniparties but turnouts can still be high when there is a real choice and the stakes are high.

 

[Ryan69]

There was a few states that there were more votes than people in the states.

There was so many shenanigans that went on,that if it had happened in the Republican favour....all hell would of broke loose.

 

[Doc Shrink]

Ohio GOP candidate: According to the Census Bureau, "5 million more people voted than were registered to vote" in the 2020 election.

PolitiFact's rating: Pants on Fire!

Here's why: In the race to fill the U.S. Senate seat now held by retiring Republican Rob Portman, all but one of the candidates for the Republican nomination cast suspicion on the 2020 presidential election. At a recent debate, businessman Mike Gibbons, a top contender, repeated a favored talking point.

"Five million more people voted than were registered to vote," Gibbons said March 28. "And that’s according to the U.S. Census Bureau. There’s a problem. We need to investigate it. The Jan. 6 commission should be investigating that instead of some sort of false accusation of some sort of insurrection."

Fact-check: Why some voters faced challenges voting in the 2022 Texas primary

Gibbons is wrong. No numbers back up his claim of 5 million more votes cast than there were people registered to vote. We’ve checked iterations of this statement before and found them false. Gibbons’ invocation of the Census Bureau failed to improve his accuracy.


The Census Bureau reported in April 2021 that its surveys found 168,308,000 registered voters, and 154,628,000 votes cast in the 2020 election. Neither is an exact figure; these estimates are based on people’s answers to survey questions. But since Gibbons name checked the Census Bureau, it’s worth noting that, according to the bureau, there were at least 13 million more registered voters than people who voted.

That’s the opposite of what Gibbons asserted as fact.

 

[egb_hibs]

There was a few states that there were more votes than people in the states.

There doesn’t seem to be any evidence of that.

Biden won that election. Republicans are right to want controls on mail votes and voter identification, because there have been cases of abuse of these systems in the US and elsewhere. But not on a scale that turns presidential elections. It’s a lose thread that needs tied off. The election was not stolen - though by all accounts Trump tried to steal it.

 

[jetsam1]

So, what about Maduro then?




"The gringos are behind this plan" apparently........ He did come out very quickly and everyone else disputes his "victory".

 

[egb_hibs]

So, what about Maduro then?




"The gringos are behind this plan" apparently...... He did come out very quickly and everyone else disputes his "victory".

Maduro is doing what all of his kind do. Those that celebrated Chavez and him to begin with were, shall we say, a little optimistic, but I doubt they are anymore surprised than anyone else these days.

 

[GORDONSMITH7]

Maduro is doing what all of his kind do. Those that celebrated Chavez and him to begin with were, shall we say, a little optimistic, but I doubt they are anymore surprised than anyone else these days.

@egb_hibs Written a few days before the election by the Venezuelan sister party of the RCP, so no shock of their politics, however gives a bit of perspective to what was happening and has happened subsequently.

Presidential elections in Venezuela: between death by asphyxiation and decapitation

With days to go before the presidential elections in Venezuela, the atmosphere is tense but relatively calm. These are far from normal elections. They are fraught with doubts and risks. Uncertainty is only increasing as the hours go by. The prevailing calm awaits the coming of a storm.

www.marxist.com

BIG G

 

[Ryan69]

Ohio GOP candidate: According to the Census Bureau, "5 million more people voted than were registered to vote" in the 2020 election.

PolitiFact's rating: Pants on Fire!

Here's why: In the race to fill the U.S. Senate seat now held by retiring Republican Rob Portman, all but one of the candidates for the Republican nomination cast suspicion on the 2020 presidential election. At a recent debate, businessman Mike Gibbons, a top contender, repeated a favored talking point.

"Five million more people voted than were registered to vote," Gibbons said March 28. "And that’s according to the U.S. Census Bureau. There’s a problem. We need to investigate it. The Jan. 6 commission should be investigating that instead of some sort of false accusation of some sort of insurrection."

Fact-check: Why some voters faced challenges voting in the 2022 Texas primary

Gibbons is wrong. No numbers back up his claim of 5 million more votes cast than there were people registered to vote. We’ve checked iterations of this statement before and found them false. Gibbons’ invocation of the Census Bureau failed to improve his accuracy.


The Census Bureau reported in April 2021 that its surveys found 168,308,000 registered voters, and 154,628,000 votes cast in the 2020 election. Neither is an exact figure; these estimates are based on people’s answers to survey questions. But since Gibbons name checked the Census Bureau, it’s worth noting that, according to the bureau, there were at least 13 million more registered voters than people who voted.

That’s the opposite of what Gibbons asserted as fact.

Do you actually believe fact checks are designed to give facts?

They are a way of protecting the narratives from scrutination.

As usual...you have no input to anything relevant

 

[egb_hibs]

Do you actually believe fact checks are designed to give facts?

They are a way of protecting the narratives from scrutination.

As usual...you have no input to anything relevant

Fact checkers indeed have their problems. But this one points to facts and figures that you could check yourself.

Although no doubt the census bureau is lying as well - but in that case you can't know how many voters there are anyway and your own claim is moot.

 

[Ryan69]

Maduro is doing what all of his kind do. Those that celebrated Chavez and him to begin with were, shall we say, a little optimistic, but I doubt they are anymore surprised than anyone else these days.

The truth is that elections give the illusion of democracy.

People like George Carlin figured that out in the 80s.

It's amazing how the narrative Never dramatically changes.
Cause certain people own and control the narrative.

 

[egb_hibs]

The truth is that elections give the illusion of democracy.

People like George Carlin figured that out in the 80s.

It's amazing how the narrative Never dramatically changes.
Cause certain people own and control the narrative.

Pretty sure George Carlin was on the side of much of what you disagree with Ryan. And his stuff was just hippie cliche on this point.

There are major problems with democracy as it exists today but it’s not how you make out.

 

[Ryan69]

Pretty sure George Carlin was on the side of much of what you disagree with Ryan. And his stuff was just hippie cliche on this point.

There are major problems with democracy as it exists today but it’s not how you make out.

I'm telling you that it's rigged to benefit certain people and corporations.

Where am I wrong in that then?

Like he said"They don't give a fuck about you!"

 

[Doc Shrink]

Do you actually believe fact checks are designed to give facts?

They are a way of protecting the narratives from scrutination.

As usual...you have no input to anything relevant

Apologies chief.

Can you point me to the source of your knowledge please? Particularly the flat earth bit. I’ve got a couple of holidays booked for later this year and I want to check my destinations aren’t too near the edge.
Pretty sure @Jack would be interested too. He’s always on cruises and how one of them ships hasn’t toppled off Christ knows.

 

[Ryan69]

Apologies chief.

Can you point me to the source of your knowledge please? Particularly the flat earth bit. I’ve got a couple of holidays booked for later this year and I want to check my destinations aren’t too near the edge.
Pretty sure @Jack would be interested too. He’s always on cruises and how one of them ships hasn’t toppled off Christ knows.

Who said it was flat? I didn't.

Who said there was an edge..I didn't!

If you refer to the bible,it says there are would be angel at each corner of the earth(at one point)..and it has a firmament over it.

Usual nonsensical garbage from you.

Away and boil her heed.

 

[Bangkokhibby]

"Away and boil her heed"

What's his missus done to you?

 

[Doc Shrink]

Who said it was flat? I didn't.

Who said there was an edge..I didn't!

If you refer to the bible,it says there are would be angel at each corner of the earth(at one point)..and it has a firmament over it.

Usual nonsensical garbage from you.

Away and boil her heed.

Angels at the corners? Well, that’s a bit of a revelation old boy.
My mistake. You did insist that nobody could prove the earth was erm….. shaped like the earth, so I assumed you were a flat earther. You did suggest that with your various claims about horizons and stuff.
What shape is it?
Square perhaps?
Maybe you’re a Michael Bentine fan?

You must have a favourite go-to website where you find your truths.
Go on.
Share.

 

[Ryan69]

Angels at the corners? Well, that’s a bit of a revelation old boy.
My mistake. You did insist that nobody could prove the earth was erm….. shaped like the earth, so I assumed you were a flat earther. You did suggest that with your various claims about horizons and stuff.
What shape is it?
Square perhaps?
Maybe you’re a Michael Bentine fan?

You must have a favourite go-to website where you find your truths.
Go on.
Share.

Again I will repeat....I never said it was flat.

I clearly stated maybe it's a pear shaped,maybe it's a banana...I don't know.

Nobody seems tobe able to PROVE what shape it is.

I did state that you can see a boat 50 miles away with a good lensed camera...that is correct.

Taken into account that what were told is 3 inch per kilometre is the curvature,and still to meet a pilot that's seen the curvature.

Maybe is a rectangle then?

I don't know the shape..and neither do you Factually!

 

[emerald green]

Again I will repeat....I never said it was flat.

I clearly stated maybe it's a pear shaped,maybe it's a banana...I don't know.

Nobody seems tobe able to PROVE what shape it is.

I did state that you can see a boat 50 miles away with a good lensed camera...that is correct.

Taken into account that what were told is 3 inch per kilometre is the curvature,and still to meet a pilot that's seen the curvature.

Maybe is a rectangle then?

I don't know the shape..and neither do you Factually!

You are THE thickest *&*^ i have ever come across in my life. You're fucking shite and id wish you'd just fuckoff. Ya tiresome fucking goat. Please. Just fuck off.

... and @egb_hibs , gona stop humouring it.

 

[Jack]

I did state that you can see a boat 50 miles away with a good lensed camera...that is correct.

You would need tobe on a hill at least twice the height of Arthur's Seat to see 50 miles.

 

[1875]

Apologies chief.

Can you point me to the source of your knowledge please? Particularly the flat earth bit. I’ve got a couple of holidays booked for later this year and I want to check my destinations aren’t too near the edge.
Pretty sure @Jack would be interested too. He’s always on cruises and how one of them ships hasn’t toppled off Christ knows.

He sits at the back.

Angels at the corners? Well, that’s a bit of a revelation old boy.
My mistake. You did insist that nobody could prove the earth was erm….. shaped like the earth, so I assumed you were a flat earther. You did suggest that with your various claims about horizons and stuff.
What shape is it?
Square perhaps?
Maybe you’re a Michael Bentine fan?

You must have a favourite go-to website where you find your truths.
Go on.
Share.

You have a cheek commenting on Potty Time.

 

[hibbybilly]

He sits at the back.

Gets his moneys worth.

 

[Davy]

Police cars and stations burning. Some Police handed guns over. Lot will depend on who the military side with.

 

[Jack]

As of now ( 1 Aug 0000 UTC) flights between Venezuela and following countries are suspended:

Panama (Nov 30)
Dominican Republic (Aug 31)
Peru (Aug 31)