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I've mentioned this previously on here but I believe in Scotland they are applying the offside rule differently to the EPL. From the EPL's own website:

From the 2021/22 season, the process was tweaked as part of an adjustment to the implementation of VAR.

Firstly, for marginal offside decisions, after the one-pixel lines are applied, the VAR puts on the thicker broadcast lines and where they overlap, those situations will now be deemed as onside.
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I've seen a few examples where the tolerance lines overlap and the decision given is offside (Tavares against St Johnstone for example). The EPL way seems fairer as it allows for a margin of error which favours the attacking team. I'm probably missing something mind you...
 
Hibee Kev said:
I've mentioned this previously on here but I believe in Scotland they are applying the offside rule differently to the EPL. From the EPL's own website:



I've seen a few examples where the tolerance lines overlap and the decision given is offside (Tavares against St Johnstone for example). The EPL way seems fairer as it allows for a margin of error which favours the attacking team. I'm probably missing something mind you...
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The cvnts that dae the VAR in Scotland have been taking lines before the game.
 
tayside hibee said:
someone at my work, showed me a clip of the tackle from a different angle, and it was a shocker. Full contact , leg bending , it looked horrific.
Also, Twatts reaction to the red was one of acceptance, he knew it was a bad one.
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I saw the tackle and he tried to pull out of it and didn't have his studs up. It wasn't even remotely close to being a red let alone a yellow and it certainly wasn't a shocker.
 
Hibee Kev said:
I've mentioned this previously on here but I believe in Scotland they are applying the offside rule differently to the EPL. From the EPL's own website:



I've seen a few examples where the tolerance lines overlap and the decision given is offside (Tavares against St Johnstone for example). The EPL way seems fairer as it allows for a margin of error which favours the attacking team. I'm probably missing something mind you...
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See Kuki’s “goal” today as another example.. 🙄
 
Hibee Kev said:
I've mentioned this previously on here but I believe in Scotland they are applying the offside rule differently to the EPL. From the EPL's own website:



I've seen a few examples where the tolerance lines overlap and the decision given is offside (Tavares against St Johnstone for example). The EPL way seems fairer as it allows for a margin of error which favours the attacking team. I'm probably missing something mind you...
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I think the point is that if it's that close they don't overrule the onfield decision. The trouble today was that the onfield decision was offside. That shouldn't really happen as linesmen are supposed to not flag if it's marginal so that VAR can do the precision stuff.
 
Rocky said:
I think the point is that if it's that close they don't overrule the onfield decision. The trouble today was that the onfield decision was offside. That shouldn't really happen as linesmen are supposed to not flag if it's marginal so that VAR can do the precision stuff.
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Ok that makes sense!
 
Hibee Kev said:
Ok that makes sense!
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Maybe, but it still annoys me even if linesmen do it "correctly". It means they're not flagging off even if they think it's off, thus meaning you can't have any real confidence that a goal is a goal until the interminable fucking about is complete. That just sucks the life out of the only moments that really count in a game - that split second when you're supposed to lose your shit cos you've scored.
 
Rocky said:
Maybe, but it still annoys me even if linesmen do it "correctly". It means they're not flagging off even if they think it's off, thus meaning you can't have any real confidence that a goal is a goal until the interminable fucking about is complete. That just sucks the life out of the only moments that really count in a game - that split second when you're supposed to lose your shit cos you've scored.
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Total agreement from me - a goal isn’t a goal anymore. You enter a “grey area” period of up to 5 minutes after which a goal may or may not be awarded. The amount of scrutiny afforded to these moments seems to depend on who’s playing 🤔
 
Rocky said:
That just sucks the life out of the only moments that really count in a game - that split second when you're supposed to lose your shit cos you've scored.
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Nail on the head. It's taking the passion out of the game for me. One of the reasons I've got a season ticket is to go and hopefully watch a decent game of football and unleash all the stress and emotions of the working week surrounded by other Hibs fans.
I'd rather moan about dodgy refereeing decisions after the game, in the pub,at home and all fucking week at work at least it adds to the atmosphere.
For me var is stifling what little atmosphere there is at Easter road these days. It's clinical and sterilising the game AND it isn't that accurate.
Regardless of what position Hibs end up in this season I'm going to think long and hard about renewing not based on performance but based on var.
"FOOTBALL IS NOTHING WITHOUT FANS"
 
This was all so predictable.

I think there is going to be some serious changes to VAR interpretation in Scotland very shortly...especially now that both OF managers are kicking off about how bad it currently is. Their huge influence will IMO change things.

All we needed in football was goal line technology...that was it. Instead the game has now been reduced to a farce.
In Friday night's match between Hamilton and Ayr United, struggling Hamilton had an effort that was clearly over the line from TV footage and yet because the linesman didn't see it and there was no goal line technology, they were denied a goal...something that might cost them big time come the end of the season. All we need in the game was some new technology to determine whether a ball had crossed the line or not. Instead we have used a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
 
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Rocky said:
I think the point is that if it's that close they don't overrule the onfield decision. The trouble today was that the onfield decision was offside. That shouldn't really happen as linesmen are supposed to not flag if it's marginal so that VAR can do the precision stuff.
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Looks like they should have overruled the on field decision based on this 🤷‍♂️

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Obviously there will be terrible decisions with their system too, so this is probably one of their best examples and the reason it's public.

But, that's infinitely better than what we've seen so far.
Imagine the audio from our *extremely offensive language* referees every week.

Uh
Ehm
We need to review this
Em
We need to make a decision
Give us 10 minutes
Um
Em
Guys, I'm being booed
Don't worry, we'll take the flak
Penalty rangers
 
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Greenmachine said:
This was all so predictable.

I think there is going to be some serious changes to VAR interpretation in Scotland very shortly...especially now that both OF managers are kicking off about how bad it currently is. Their huge influence will IMO change things.

All we needed in football was goal line technology...that was it. Instead the game has now been reduced to a farce.
In Friday night's match between Hamilton and Ayr United, struggling Hamilton had an effort that was clearly over the line from TV footage and yet because the linesman didn't see it and there was no goal line technology, they were denied a goal...something that might cost them big time come the end of the season. All we need in the game was some new technology to determine whether a ball had crossed the line or not. Instead we have used a sledgehammer to crack a nut.
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If interpretation plays too much of a role then the instinct is to amend the rules to be increasingly black and white and to apply a definitive lens to areas in the game that were always intended to be subjective.
 
Jack K said:
If interpretation plays too much of a role then the instinct is to amend the rules to be increasingly black and white and to apply a definitive lens to areas in the game that were always intended to be subjective.
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....and get rid of var and let the officious officials carry on.
I'm beginning to repeat myself but FUCK VAR!!!!
 
They should use VAR , to eliminate theatrical playacting by players
, it’s a contact sport ffs 🤷‍♂️
Going down clutching your face when it hasn’t been touched ( lewandoski at the euros e.g. )and players rolling over multiple times when minimal contact has been made . Basically cheating and should receive a retrospective yellow card IMO 🤔
 
Hammi said:
It is cheating, and they should be punished on the pitch, not retrospectively
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Thought about that but they would just say take up even more time during the game . Whereas retro would still give them a card and possibly miss games later in tourny
 
joethehibby said:
They should use VAR , to eliminate theatrical playacting by players
, it’s a contact sport ffs 🤷‍♂️
Going down clutching your face when it hasn’t been touched ( lewandoski at the euros e.g. )and players rolling over multiple times when minimal contact has been made . Basically cheating and should receive a retrospective yellow card IMO 🤔
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You could just have said ‘doing a Neymar’ and saved having to describe it
 
joethehibby said:
Thought about that but they would just say take up even more time during the game . Whereas retro would still give them a card and possibly miss games later in tourny
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I'd rather take up the time and have them miss time on the current game, than future games.

Straight yellow at every infringement
2 dives or rolls around, off the park

Soon shut the *&*^ down
 
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