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This is getting like rantic, whataboutrry central.
Innocent person killed by ICE agents “ah but ma boss deported millions of illegals” I’m sure that would stand up in a court of law for the shooters excuse as he was just doing his duty for his boss

You're making out like Trump ordered the hit ffs. Innocents and immigrants have been getting killed by cops and agencies on a weekly basis over here for years. And during both parties terms. That's not going to change today, tomorrow or next year.
 
No they died in custody with little media fanfare.

ICE is not Trump's invention, though one could be forgiven for believing it from media coverage.
Ok, how did they die?
Who said it was?
Trump is the boss is he not?
Where does the buck fall for an innocent getting killed by his agents?
Yet he just lies.
 
Can’t recall ever reading about ICE agents killing folk, well murdering folk in the street who were causing no harm. But is a good whataboutery.
Its not whataboutery, I've already expressed my view on this disgraceful incident. I am merely pointing out that ICE have a long and chequered history, which we in the UK do not necessarily get from manipulative media.
 
You're making out like Trump ordered the hit ffs. Innocents and immigrants have been getting killed by cops and agencies on a weekly basis over here for years. And during both parties terms. That's not going to change today, tomorrow or next year.
Who is the boss? Where does the buck stop? The man you say runs the country better than anyone?
Well at least they are consistent, btw i don’t care for any party over their, the democrats would get the same opinion from me for doing the same shit
 
Its not whataboutery, I've already expressed my view on this disgraceful incident. I am merely pointing out that ICE have a long and chequered history, which we in the UK do not necessarily get from manipulative media.
But yet you keep posting “ah but this and that” don’t matter what party it is, it is blatantly wrong and yet Trump tried to justify it, that’s how bad it is. Madness
 
But yet you keep posting “ah but this and that” don’t matter what party it is, it is blatantly wrong and yet Trump tried to justify it, that’s how bad it is. Madness
Where have i done that Hattie? I was unambiguous on my view of this outrageous incident.

I have also said that it is now appears more violent, but then that is not in a vacuum. More ICE detainees have been murdered by antifa than ICE during the Trump phase of their activities: that as part of a largely unreported campaign of violence against ICE that can't be separated to their approach in cases like this.
 
Trump gives me the fear. At first I just thought he was a just an egotistical twat who whilst the POTUS, was a bit of a laughing stock. I still believe all that but his ego is moving the world closer to ruin and a 3rd World war. His behaviour has parallels with Putin, Stalin, Hitler and every other dictator that has lived. The major difference for me is that he has arguably more power than any of them and is hellbent on using it.
It appears a lot of the aggressive and provocative actions he is authorizing is because he can. It’s also worrying that his VP is as big a prick as him so there is no sensible or reasonable counsel for him.
The UK is in a shit state but thank fuck we don’t have a Trump type character leading us. Really worrying times for the planet with Trump proclaiming to be the saviour, but every chance of delivering the opposite.
 
I’m pretty sure he’s been given x amount of time to live or is convinced himself he is dying. That’s why he’s trying to slap his name in everything and doing all this mad shit. He wants to go down in history as someone consequential, inside he is a very empty man.

I’m also pretty sure the whole Epstein thing is related to Melania. She came in on a dodgy visa and it kind of undermines their whole war on “illegal immigration” so it can’t come out. All rotten to the core.
 
I think we can see that ICE are out of control thugs with total impunity to do whatever they want to any US citizen. The guy who shot the lady will face no repercussions I am absolutely sure. The way the US is right now Trump will probably give him a medal just to "own the libs" or some such nonsense.

It is only about sowing fear, seeing they have been hanging out around courthouses as people have been doing the process they are supposed to for immigration is telling.
 
I see people are saying 'ICE has always been around, doing mad shit'

Well, not like this. At all. Here's a starter for ten as to why this is different:


Immigration and Customs Enforcement now employs more than 22,000 officers and agents, DHS said, up from 10,000 when Trump took office last year. The hiring surge marks a 120% increase to the workforce since July, when Congress passed the One Big Beautiful Bill Act that provided $8 billion for ICE hiring.

Those employees are already “on the ground across the country,” according to Tricia McLaughlin, a DHS spokesperson. Neither ICE nor DHS responded to an inquiry into how many of the new hires are already deployed.

The speed of deployment reflects DHS shortening the training for ICE agents from six months to around six weeks, allowing newly onboarded staff to quickly get into the field. The Federal Law Enforcement Training Center, which handles training for more than 75 federal law enforcement agencies, has also severely curtailed its operations for non-ICE personnel to enable the agency’s recruits to deploy more rapidly.

ICE has also significantly hastened its hiring process, sorting through more than 220,000 applicants to onboard the 12,000 new hires. It has offered $50,000 signing bonuses and expanded student loan repayments as incentives while removing age caps. It also received direct hire authority to circumvent some of the normal hurdles to federal hiring.

“The accelerated hiring tempo has allowed ICE to place officers in the field faster than any previous recruitment effort in the agency’s history,” DHS said.
 
There's a very confused narrative coming from Trump apologists. One of the defences was that Biden deported more people. Yet the election campaign was all about how Biden wasn't deporting enough people. So despite a massive ramping up of tactics, numbers and aggression, they are doing a worse job. What a strange defence!
 
I’m pretty sure he’s been given x amount of time to live or is convinced himself he is dying. That’s why he’s trying to slap his name in everything and doing all this mad shit. He wants to go down in history as someone consequential, inside he is a very empty man.
Interesting theory this. The escalation is certainly obvious. He did have some kind of scan a few months back did he not?

This could get so, so bad.
 
Why was she driving away into an officer?

Trying to get away and being in a bit of a panic while being surrounded by armed men in masks?

From reports he moved out of the way (was never in actual danger and could have handled the situation without recourse to immediate deadly violence) with his gun drawn and then opened fire from close range. Car was moving very slowly.

This was always going to happen with low standards of recruitment, training and a toxic culture coming from the top. Just happens to have been a white US citizen which is probably the only thing to make many sit up and take notice. They will be doing high fives and having a pizza party in ICE HQ.
 
Interesting theory this. The escalation is certainly obvious. He did have some kind of scan a few months back did he not?

This could get so, so bad.
He's apparently been in and out of hospital regularly for mri scans. Of course it's all been obfuscated by the White House as to why when the are supposed to be transparent about it.
 
Why was she driving away into an officer?
There are several breakdowns/analyses of this on social media, including eye witness accounts. I will try to find but it's pretty unequivocal that this guy murdered her. Only those with an agenda could come to any other conclusion in my opinion.
 
Trying to get away and being in a bit of a panic while being surrounded by armed men in masks?

From reports he moved out of the way (was never in actual danger and could have handled the situation without recourse to immediate deadly violence) with his gun drawn and then opened fire from close range. Car was moving very slowly.

This was always going to happen with low standards of recruitment, training and a toxic culture coming from the top. Just happens to have been a white US citizen which is probably the only thing to make many sit up and take notice. They will be doing high fives and having a pizza party in ICE HQ.
If I'm surrounded by armed men in masks I'm not driving through them/away from them. Are you?
 
There are several breakdowns/analyses of this on social media, including eye witness accounts. I will try to find but it's pretty unequivocal that this guy murdered her. Only those with an agenda could come to any other conclusion in my opinion.
I agree that it's murder. There's no justification for it. However, the way she's drove off before being shot is bizzare...

In terms of agenda. Wow, that's pretty ironic... I expect Khan will issue some statement any moment unless he already has.
 
Just happens to have been a white US citizen which is probably the only thing to make many sit up and take notice.
Really ? Wonder if we’ll have the riots and foreign protests with sports teams taking the knee like they did for the black thug that was killed by police.
There was no reason at all for you to bring race into this tragedy
 
I agree that it's murder. There's no justification for it. However, the way she's drove off before being shot is bizzare...

In terms of agenda. Wow, that's pretty ironic... I expect Khan will issue some statement any moment unless he already has.
Not really if you contextualise it. She was an observer. Armed thugs with a history of violence and disappearing people try and enter your vehicle. Apparently tell her to move her vehicle as it was blocking the road, then tell her to stop. Total chaos and no doubt frightening. Poor woman and poor child that she leaves behind. I dont know what you are getting at with the Khan reference.
 
Really ? Wonder if we’ll have the riots and foreign protests with sports teams taking the knee like they did for the black thug that was killed by police.
There was no reason at all for you to bring race into this tragedy
Different demographic innit? There are plenty who would not give a hoot if another latino for example was killed by ICE that might be more sympathetic to this. Anyway then I am out, I found the news today utterly disgusting and am fed up of these psychotic arseholes wrecking everything.
 
Seen the footage. The car was missing the cvnt, he could have shot oot the tyres. He should get done for murder.
 
US Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem said Good had been "stalking and impeding their work" all day by "blocking them in" with her car and "shouting at them".

Good "weaponised her vehicle", Noem told reporters, and then tried to run over one of the officers "in an attempt to kill or cause bodily harm to agents, an act of domestic terrorism".

The ICE agent feared for his life, Noem said, and "fired defensive shots".

This story was backed up by Trump, who wrote on Truth Social that "the woman driving the car was very disorderly, obstructing and resisting".

He called her a "professional agitator" who "violently, willfully [sic], and viciously" ran over an ICE officer.

There are lies, and if they are allowed to let slide it's only going to become worse for American citizens.
 
16 US citizens murdered by US law enforcement this year.

It’s like back to the days of the Wild West
 
16 US citizens murdered by US law enforcement this year.

It’s like back to the days of the Wild West
I wouldn't conflate this clear cut homicide with that. Police are way more likely to be killed than kill unarmed people. And that's even more the case with black Americans actually.

The real culprit behind the wider picture is their fucking bonkers gun culture. When you have armed police policing a heavily armed populace this is going to happen unfortunately. No such mitigation here.
 
Different demographic innit? There are plenty who would not give a hoot if another latino for example was killed by ICE that might be more sympathetic to this.
Sorry this is bonkers and the kind of bonkers that has led America to where it now.

This is unlikely to produce a reaction a la George Floyd - thankfully, given it included dozens of murders, destruction of huge numbers of black businesses and thousands of blacks killed due to withdrawn policing - and he was not white.
 
Sorry this is bonkers and the kind of bonkers that has led America to where it now.

This is unlikely to produce a reaction a la George Floyd - thankfully, given it included dozens of murders, destruction of huge numbers of black businesses and thousands of blacks killed due to withdrawn policing - and he was not white.
Yeah I don't really care all that much anymore, humans are being utter pricks what else is new? They won again. Let's just surrender to the Orange Goblin and give in to inevitable authoritarianism.

Anyway, the point being is that a white person was killed in a very racially charged country where ICE have been specifically going after latina people. Much of the population do not give a monkeys, the difference in a racially charged environment is that a white person being killed out of nowhere is going to potentially make a different demographic start to worry about their own safety when dealing with Trump's USA.

But fuck it. What does any of it matter?