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Beagle said:
The saying; My enemy’s enemy is my friend applies. Ireland is still ‘at war’ with Britain in a sense and will continue to be until British rule is ended in the north.

As a comparison I don’t remember them being too keen on South Africa when it was an apartheid state. Much like they perceive how their countrymen were treated in the north by the planters. Thats their affinity.

The general population don’t look at any of that. They see the UN declaring a genocide. Few look into the nuances.

You would then see for yourself how outsiders are treated.
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Beags they wouldnt of been fighting for britain they wouldve couldve been fighting naziism as ireland but they chose not to.
I was in south africa 3 times in the 60s and you dont have to be irish to realise what an abomination apartheid was.
And i think outsiders would be treated a lot better in israel than say saudi or some other muslim countries
 
Or as john lydon said when he moved to iteland as a kid he was hated for being english and when he moved to england hated for being irish.
 
He is hard to like certainly. The other 3 original members of the pistols want nothing to do with him which says a lot. Hes becoming a bitter and twisted right winger. Very sad to see. Imho.
 
paigntonhibby said:
Beags they wouldnt of been fighting for britain they wouldve couldve been fighting naziism as ireland but they chose not to.
I was in south africa 3 times in the 60s and you dont have to be irish to realise what an abomination apartheid was.
And i think outsiders would be treated a lot better in israel than say saudi or some other muslim countries
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I’m not sure anyone was making that distinction in 1939 whether the Germans were Nazis or just a country at war with us.
I believe there were plenty of Irishmen joined the fight on the allied side who were, for the want of a better word, persecuted on their return for fighting with the British rather than against.
 
Beagle said:
I’m not sure anyone was making that distinction in 1939 whether the Germans were Nazis or just a country at war with us.
I believe there were plenty of Irishmen joined the fight on the allied side who were, for the want of a better word, persecuted on their return for fighting with the British rather than against.
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You are correct, they were denied jobs etc.
 
hibbybilly said:
And?
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You asked including palestinians, I'm just pointing out there are more palestinians living in israel than jews living in surrounding muslim states so I would hazard a guess that yes, it is more welcoming. Notice I said MORE welcoming by which I mean its not great but its better than the surrounding countries.
Is anybody sticking up for the almost 1mill jews who fled or were expelled from arab countries, 70% of whom fled to israel because of progroms and restrictive laws they were subjected to in arab countries? Or is that acceptible
 
Beagle said:
The general population don’t look at any of that. They see the UN declaring a genocide. Few look into the nuances.
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Just a point of order, the UN as a whole has not legally declared that israel are committing genocide although some committees have said they are committing acts that are unsavoury and could be construed as genocide
 
paigntonhibby said:
Just a point of order, the UN as a whole has not legally declared that israel are committing genocide although some committees have said they are committing acts that are unsavoury and could be construed as genocide
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Well just let them carry on until they meet the criteria then. 🙄
 
LASK, the team that humped the dodgers 5-1 are losing tae Liverpool 6-1...6-2 now.
Comebacks on
 
Watching Villa destroy Fenerbahce, who look like a home for aging ex EPL goons.
Lukaku. Ake.Guendouzi. Ederson. Greenwood.
Villa stuffed them 6-0
 
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