Return of Brexit via Labour?

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Thomo0762 said:
I always got the impression that half the "red wall" didnt have a clue what they were voting for. Some guy on a council estste in Bolton was brain washed by Farage and Johnstone into thinking that all his lifes problems were caused by the Polish plumber living next door.
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Well maybe the remain voters should have got out of their beds and voted.
 
HibeeBizzle said:
It’s been a disaster for the majority of folk. Got to wonder how many jump ship the minute we are allowed to settle anywhere in the E.U. again.
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Well it was 17.4 million who voted to leave so when we get dragged back in again I can't see Germany or France wanting millions of anti EU voters in their nations.
 
Jack said:
Just imagine how much better off we all could have been not losing the 'thousands of pounds' if we'd still been in though.

We've lost billions in exports, exporters have either given up due to the extra paperwork or are paying through the nose to deal with it. We're all affected.

And then there's the 10s of thousands travelling to and from the EU spending hours in queues at Dover and European airports.

Sunny uplands indeed!
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See when I read about these things Jack it's usually in could have, maybe, forecast, might have etc etc.

No actual hard figures. Just remain propaganda.
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
See when I read about these things Jack it's usually in could have, maybe, forecast, might have etc etc.

No actual hard figures. Just remain propaganda.
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At least they are based on fact rather than outright lies from the likes of Johnson, Farage and the daily heil!
 
Jack said:
At least they are based on fact rather than outright lies from the likes of Johnson, Farage and the daily heil!
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Aye 'facts' that suit their narrative Jack. Maybe, could have etc are not facts.
 
Jack said:
Actually between the 3 of us (UK, Germany and France) economies are predicted to grow for the foreseeable. The UK is predicted to overtake Germany but it's all pretty stable growth albeit the Asian economies are doing a Usain Bolt!
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I was over in Germany 2 weeks ago for a family funeral. My cousin (she used to work for BMW) was telling me the German car manufacturers are absolutely toiling with the global influx of low-cost, high-spec cars from China. She reckoned the likes of Mercedes and BMW would be OK, but the future for the likes of Volkswagen might not be so bright.
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
Well it was 17.4 million who voted to leave so when we get dragged back in again I can't see Germany or France wanting millions of anti EU voters in their nations.
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They’ll still be here waiting on the £350m a week for the NHS. Obliviously.
 
HibeeBizzle said:
They’ll still be here waiting on the £350m a week for the NHS. Obliviously.
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Already said it was a stupid claim. Although the £350 million was correct.

We got a £100 million rebate.

They should have used the money for housing.
 
HibeeBizzle said:
There’s no money mind. That’s what Boris told us after his Brexit lies.
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Well I remember Labour saying the coffers were empty as well.

They are all lying bastards. I don't like it respect any of them.

The only politician I had any respect for was Margo McDonald.

She used to stand up at the shops on the Moredun Park Road and ask US what we felt were out problems.

No some slick pr machine giving hq answers.
 
I wonder if we rejoined the EU they would let us off the £5.3bn we still owe them as part of the great tory settlement?

Almost £26bn we've already paid them since we shot ourselves in the foot left 😆

Happy fish mean a lot 😂
 
Jack said:
I wonder if we rejoined the EU they would let us off the £5.3bn we still owe them as part of the great tory settlement?

Almost £26bn we've already paid them since we shot ourselves in the foot left 😆

Happy fish mean a lot 😂
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We should not have said we would give them anything.

Sponging fuckers 🙄
 
Wonder if a Marine le Pen run French presidency would want the UK back?

Hope she doesn't.
 
Kick on auld Brillo Pad.....


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Didn't take the lying bastard long did it?.....



‘I am not proposing that the UK considers rejoining the EU.’

So said Andy Burnham to the voters of Makerfield on 18 May 2026, a month before the by-election that catapulted him into Downing Street.

‘I respect the decision that was made at the referendum and it’s going to undermine everything I’ve said about strengthening democracy if we don’t respect that vote.’

Burnham struck a very different chord this week when addressing the EU-obsessed Labour Party faithful in Liverpool.

www.spiked-online.com

Burnham’s Brexit betrayal makes him an enemy of democracy

This phoney man of the people wants to put the voters back in their box.
www.spiked-online.com www.spiked-online.com
 
Archie said:
Even for Spiked that's a pretty hysterical tone.
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So are you ok with Burnham saying he will respect Brexit only for a few months later to say different?

I'm sure voters will not notice Archie 🤣🤣🤣
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
So are you ok with Burnham saying he will respect Brexit only for a few months later to say different?

I'm sure voters will not notice Archie 🤣🤣🤣
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You've said every politician lies so often there's no point in posting these things anymore. Just copy and paste a generic note to that effect every day. Job done.
 
Here you don't think that Burnham is just taking the piss out of the rejoiners by saying we could rejoin the EU.

Get them to vote for him then laugh at them and tell them to bolt.

But na a politician wouldn't be THAT devious.
 
Keepitgreen said:
Course they would Jimmy. Have you no seen what that fuckface Farage has been promising the working man if he gets in?
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Yep I have. And as I pointed out earlier he also stated that Scotland could probably get another indie referendum if he was pm.

I still think the politicos are writing off the Reform vote and how it will do in an election.

Labour party members are not the folk Burnham needs to attract.

It's former labour voters. And he has just stated that he may overturn Brexit.

Many many Labour strongholds voted leave.
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
Yep I have. And as I pointed out earlier he also stated that Scotland could probably get another indie referendum if he was pm.

I still think the politicos are writing off the Reform vote and how it will do in an election.

Labour party members are not the folk Burnham needs to attract.

It's former labour voters. And he has just stated that he may overturn Brexit.

Many many Labour strongholds voted leave.
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But you have to accept Jim, sometimes in life a person chooses something, then later on learns it was a bad choice. Happens all the time.

I don't think you give enough credit to 'labour strongholds'. They're people. And they're aware that brexit just didnae work out. And that's OK - as long as there's folk in power who who will listen and take action to fix it for them.
 
Keepitgreen said:
But you have to accept Jim, sometimes in life a person chooses something, then later on learns it was a bad choice. Happens all the time.

I don't think you give enough credit to 'labour strongholds'. They're people. And they're aware that brexit just didnae work out. And that's OK - as long as there's folk in power who who will listen and take action to fix it for them.
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KiG yep I get what you are saying. Just look at Starmer as an example.

Or dafties who chose the Merricks over the Hibees.

But I do not think there is as many folk with Brexit regret as the rejoin media thinks there are.

Remember when Labour got a kicking when Corbyn was in charge?

Labour strongholds voted for the Tories.

Unprecedented. Places like Boro, Redcar, Hartlepool etc etc.

Just because it wears a red rosette doesn't mean its a shoe in.
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
Just because it wears a red rosette doesn't mean its a shoe in.
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Aye defo very true. Off topic but related, I posted in the annoying thread about moderate republicans who voted Trump in even knowing how much of a heartless, vindictive arsehole he is. Corbyn of course is nowt like Trump but our left-leaning voters still moved with their feet when they didn't like their candidate. Those 'moderate' yank kants did not. And now its screwing the working man worldwide.
 
Keepitgreen said:
Aye defo very true. Off topic but related, I posted in the annoying thread about moderate republicans who voted Trump in even knowing how much of a heartless, vindictive arsehole he is. Corbyn of course is nowt like Trump but our left-leaning voters still moved with their feet when they didn't like their candidate. Those 'moderate' yank kants did not. And now its screwing the working man worldwide.
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Exactly. We always get shafted no matter who is in charge.

But the duopoly have to get a good kick in the balls sometimes.

We did it here when we got rid of the Tories and every Labour MP (except mine 😭😭).

Maybe folk don't really give a toss what Farage said when he was a laddie.

Maybe they just want to kick the duopoly in the balls.

Labour NEED those lost red wall voters and they also need to take away the voters from the bonkers greens.

I think taking the voters from Polankis mob will be easier than getting the voters back from the shit hole schemes outside of London.
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
KiG yep I get what you are saying. Just look at Starmer as an example.

Or dafties who chose the Merricks over the Hibees.

But I do not think there is as many folk with Brexit regret as the rejoin media thinks there are.

Remember when Labour got a kicking when Corbyn was in charge?

Labour strongholds voted for the Tories.

Unprecedented. Places like Boro, Redcar, Hartlepool etc etc.

Just because it wears a red rosette doesn't mean its a shoe in.
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It's the problem with a contentious binary choice. It wouldn't take many switching to lead to a vote to return. But it would still be very divisive.
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
Exactly. We always get shafted no matter who is in charge.

But the duopoly have to get a good kick in the balls sometimes.

We did it here when we got rid of the Tories and every Labour MP (except mine 😭😭).

Maybe folk don't really give a toss what Farage said when he was a laddie.

Maybe they just want to kick the duopoly in the balls.

Labour NEED those lost red wall voters and they also need to take away the voters from the bonkers greens.

I think taking the voters from Polankis mob will be easier than getting the voters back from the shit hole schemes outside of London.
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It's what Farage says now that really bothers me.
 
Archie said:
It's the problem with a contentious binary choice. It wouldn't take many switching to lead to a vote to return. But it would still be very divisive.
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Very much so Archie. Nowt like being told your vote doesn't count.
 
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