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Maybe something like that is needed Smurf a wee taste of bonkers politics that the greens and some Labour politicos yearn for.

Then when the Muslim block turn on the greens dafties it will be most entertaining.
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
Maybe something like that is needed Smurf a wee taste of bonkers politics that the greens and some Labour politicos yearn for.

Then when the Muslim block turn on the greens dafties it will be most entertaining.
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It's too important to be a laughing matter.
 
Archie said:
It's too important to be a laughing matter.
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Maybe the politicians and the political party's should show a bit more importance then Archie rather than bowing to whichever way the wind is blowing.
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
Maybe the politicians and the political party's should show a bit more importance then Archie rather than bowing to whichever way the wind is blowing.
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Is that different from following the will of the people?
Can’t have it both ways, or maybe you can’t have it either way.
 
Doc Shrink said:
Is that different from following the will of the people?
Can’t have it both ways, or maybe you can’t have it either way.
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The will of the people is when they vote for the party who they think will best represent their outlook on life.

Which way the wind blows was shown by Burnham regarding the EU.

Folk in Makerfield one thing. Folk at the party conference was a different version.

So which one is it Andy? He probably won't post an answer though to be fair.
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
The will of the people is when they vote for the party who they think will best represent their outlook on life.

Which way the wind blows was shown by Burnham regarding the EU.

Folk in Makerfield one thing. Folk at the party conference was a different version.

So which one is it Andy? He probably won't post an answer though to be fair.
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No but I will. He clearly wants a closer relationship with Europe. He said he respects the Brexit vote. So any approach would be in the manifesto for the next election. Which people will vote on. What is wrong with that?
 
Archie said:
No but I will. He clearly wants a closer relationship with Europe. He said he respects the Brexit vote. So any approach would be in the manifesto for the next election. Which people will vote on. What is wrong with that?
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I just have a wee sneaking suspicion that any choice Burnham goes down will be made AFTER the next election.

Get re elected but see how many seats labour lose in the areas that voted leave.
 
Archie said:
No but I will. He clearly wants a closer relationship with Europe. He said he respects the Brexit vote. So any approach would be in the manifesto for the next election. Which people will vote on. What is wrong with that?
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Does it pass the 'Makerfield test' he was always banging on about?
 
Decent win for Labour yesterday in the Holborn and St Pancras by-election.

The greens second place must put Zack Polanski's position as leader on a shoogly peg. Not helped by a disastrous annual conference causing fractures throughout the party.

First time the torys have beaten reform Ltd in this parliamentary term, third and fourth. It could be suggested restore split the far right vote to deny reform Ltd that third place.

Galloway, George (Workers Party) 1% of vote, lost his deposit 😆



Other parties were involved and a full list is available. Do your own research if it's that important!
 
Jack said:
Decent win for Labour yesterday in the Holborn and St Pancras by-election.

The greens second place must put Zack Polanski's position as leader on a shoogly peg. Not helped by a disastrous annual conference causing fractures throughout the party.

First time the torys have beaten reform Ltd in this parliamentary term, third and fourth. It could be suggested restore split the far right vote to deny reform Ltd that third place.

Galloway, George (Workers Party) 1% of vote, lost his deposit 😆



Other parties were involved and a full list is available. Do your own research if it's that important!
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Heres hoping she's more concerned about whats happening in the UK than the middle east
 
paigntonhibby said:
Heres hoping she's more concerned about whats happening in the UK than the middle east
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Haven’t seen her say much (if anything?) on the Middle East. She avoided the hustings that a pro Palestine group organised but was at the Pro Israeli one where Zack got humiliated at. Also refused to say much on ME when she was confronted in a video Owen jones reposted the other day. Think that’s why a lot of the left don’t like her.

Seems like her main thing homelessness and housing so looking forward to seeing what happens given that aligns with Burnham rhetoric.
 
paigntonhibby said:
Heres hoping she's more concerned about whats happening in the UK than the middle east
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Oh fuck a bloody refugee. Cannae sit well @BounceGangsters.
Dry yet eyes out mates.

Abdi-Wali, 42, who came to the UK from Somalia as a child refugee with her family in the 1990s, grew up in Camden, where she became a councillor in 2022.

She was elected as leader of the local authority in May, and has been chosen by Labour members to contest the north London seat vacated by Keir Starmer.

The candidate said she was "delighted that local members have put their trust in me to be Labour's candidate in the area I've grown up in".

She has also worked as a volunteer and trustee for local charities in the borough, as well as the governor of two schools,

Reform did well, behind the Tories. Splendid!

BIG G
 
Findlayhibby said:
What happens in the Middle East impacts on what happens here.Or maybe you haven't noticed your fuel bills going up?
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What happens in the straits of hormuz impacts on what happens here. I havent heard many muslim MPs asking about that but Ive heard them going on about gaza and israel and road access tae some fuckin airport in pakistan.
 
GORDONSMITH7 said:
Oh fuck a bloody refugee. Cannae sit well @BounceGangsters.
Dry yet eyes out mates.

Abdi-Wali, 42, who came to the UK from Somalia as a child refugee with her family in the 1990s, grew up in Camden, where she became a councillor in 2022.

She was elected as leader of the local authority in May, and has been chosen by Labour members to contest the north London seat vacated by Keir Starmer.

The candidate said she was "delighted that local members have put their trust in me to be Labour's candidate in the area I've grown up in".

She has also worked as a volunteer and trustee for local charities in the borough, as well as the governor of two schools,

Reform did well, behind the Tories. Splendid!

BIG G
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You reap what you fuckin sow Gordon
 
paigntonhibby said:
You reap what you fuckin sow Gordon
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Galatians 6.7 . However I don't give a grain of Lot's wife Genesis 19:15–26, as the good book says, in what the @BounceGangsyers say by innuendo pal, as per the original post above. My well known criticism of Burnhams Labour is on a political level and not populist tropes about ethnicity. I'll leave that to Suella Braverman, who does it better.

BIG G
 
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Jack said:
Decent win for Labour yesterday in the Holborn and St Pancras by-election.

The greens second place must put Zack Polanski's position as leader on a shoogly peg. Not helped by a disastrous annual conference causing fractures throughout the party.

First time the torys have beaten reform Ltd in this parliamentary term, third and fourth. It could be suggested restore split the far right vote to deny reform Ltd that third place.

Galloway, George (Workers Party) 1% of vote, lost his deposit 😆



Other parties were involved and a full list is available. Do your own research if it's that important!
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Is it just me, or are these results just depressing as fuck. Labour are shite, the greens are mental, the tories played a major major part in the shite we find ourselves in. Reform are tories .2 and run by a frog faced grifter. How long has UK politics been a feckin race to the bottom :g:
 
Labour getting everyone exited about drilling, funny the companies involved are foreign so what real benefit is it going to have if its sold on the international market, seems a bit of a con to me.
 
bigmanandy said:
Labour getting everyone exited about drilling, funny the companies involved are foreign so what real benefit is it going to have if its sold on the international market, seems a bit of a con to me.
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That has always seemed to be the way with our oil fields. Doubt Trump is celebrating for nothing.
It is still a good move though as it will substain and maybe create jobs in the north. Yes people will complain about the climate, but while we continue to rely n fossil fuels, we should be making use of our own, rather tha. Sitting smugly pretending we are environmentaly friendly, whilst importing oil from abroad.
 
bigmanandy said:
Labour getting everyone exited about drilling, funny the companies involved are foreign so what real benefit is it going to have if its sold on the international market, seems a bit of a con to me.
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Hundreds of direct jobs, many indirect jobs in the supply chain. Food on tables. But the hysteria about one oilfield development just shows how Westminster pissed away our big oil boom when we had dozens of platforms producing.
 
blue toon hibby said:
Hundreds of direct jobs, many indirect jobs in the supply chain. Food on tables. But the hysteria about one oilfield development just shows how Westminster pissed away our big oil boom when we had dozens of platforms producing.
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I see some parliamentary lot are publishing a report soon, this week/next week, around how the UK could/should have had a sovereign fund like Norway except Westminster pissed it against the wall!

Estimates £3tn in surplus instead of £3tn in hock!
 
Jack said:
I see some parliamentary lot are publishing a report soon, this week/next week, around how the UK could/should have had a sovereign fund like Norway except Westminster pissed it against the wall!

Estimates £3tn in surplus instead of £3tn in hock!
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But Jack, England got the M25 and many other great things from the proceeds of Scottish oil whilst our industries closed and we ended up with ghost towns.
We should all be backing Britain in this great news for the British economy. 🤣🤣🤣
 
Beagle said:
But Jack, England got the M25 and many other great things from the proceeds of Scottish oil whilst our industries closed and we ended up with ghost towns.
We should all be backing Britain in this great news for the British economy. 🤣🤣🤣
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Are we the only oil producing country in the world without a refinery?

Something else we should be grateful for. Imagine if we had all that responsibility. How would we cope?

It's almost as if Westminster is managing a staged decline in Scottish industry since independence was brought to the agenda.
 
Jack said:
I see some parliamentary lot are publishing a report soon, this week/next week, around how the UK could/should have had a sovereign fund like Norway except Westminster pissed it against the wall!

Estimates £3tn in surplus instead of £3tn in hock!
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Before I went to work in the Norwegian sector I was told jokingly that “the Norwegians reinvented the wheel”. In my experience of working there, the whole industry was better run than ours and the people were better looked after.
 
Jack said:
It's almost as if Westminster is managing a staged decline in Scottish industry since independence was brought to the agenda.
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Hanlon's razor territory imo. Bad industrial planning didn't begin with Thatcher, but the venality and stupidity of that era meant nobody was ever going to fix the roof no matter how brightly the sun had started shining. Same for education, same for healthcare, same for railway infrastructure - fuck all of it, the world might end tomorrow so better get more tax cuts for millionaires in.
 
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