Jill Dando / Jimmy Savile

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Brainwrong

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This is extremely wonky. I'm not one for conspiracy theories but this doesn't stretch my credulity that far as this mire of evil unravels and spews forth, slowly but surely... Even the photo of Sutcliff, Savile & Bruno is disturbing and wrong enough in itself...

http://21stcenturywire.com/2012/11/...-was-fingered-as-peter-sutcliffes-accomplice/

"...Among other revelations and connections, the Sun revealed that Sutcliffe victim Irene Richardson was killed in 1977 only yards from where Jimmy Savile demanded oral sex from his paperboy, and another murder victim was knifed by the Ripper in front of Saviles other Leeds home at the time..."

"...Everyone over the years it seems, the police, the press even the great BBC, all covered for Jimmy Savile. Why? Because he was a fixer. ."

After all the Elm hotel expose and revelations, I'm having a hard time not believing all this.Thoughts?
 
It does go together all too easily. Definitely believable imo.
 
By co-incidence someone told me yesterday that Dando was murdered because she was about to grass up Cliff Richard for yewtree-esque behaviour
 
Admittedly, I chortled at the idea, and thought it to be pish.

Then I read it, watched vid 2, and found it to be quite disturbing/frightening.

What. The. Actual. Fuck. ???
 
Zitellis Heid said:
Admittedly, I chortled at the idea, and thought it to be pish.

Then I read it, watched vid 2, and found it to be quite disturbing/frightening.

What. The. Actual. Fuck. ???
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I was exactly the same, man. It just sounds so implausible on the face of it. But, once you read & see more and more, you start to feel sick because it really does look very plausible. Horribly plausible. In fact, disturbingly likely.
 
The video strikes me as though it's reporting on the plot to Hot Fuzz but with child sex abuse and sacrifice instead of murder and his boxing skills outburst wasn't dissimilar to Billy Broon's "Been places and done hings" rant. That's not to say you need to be a cultured filmmaker or skilled orator to bring these issues to light or find justice.

It's difficult reading and watching these things because you don't want to believe that there are "dark forces" rounding up kids abusing and / or killing them but on the other hand, to ignore it and sweep it under the rug of your consciousness just allows these beasts to continue unchallenged.

A quick google of Bill Moloney led me to this article. Grim reading.

'A true horror story': The abuse of teenage boys in a detention centre | UK news | The Guardian
 
ZemmamasBarnet said:
The video strikes me as though it's reporting on the plot to Hot Fuzz but with child sex abuse and sacrifice instead of murder and his boxing skills outburst wasn't dissimilar to Billy Broon's "Been places and done hings" rant. That's not to say you need to be a cultured filmmaker or skilled orator to bring these issues to light or find justice.

It's difficult reading and watching these things because you don't want to believe that there are "dark forces" rounding up kids abusing and / or killing them but on the other hand, to ignore it and sweep it under the rug of your consciousness just allows these beasts to continue unchallenged.

A quick google of Bill Moloney led me to this article. Grim reading.

'A true horror story': The abuse of teenage boys in a detention centre | UK news | The Guardian
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He come across as a bit OTT with his ranting, and shouting. I didn't get why the guys garden wound him up so much. It was very weird and inappropriate, but I couldn't honestly say if that one statue was sucking a ****.
I get the feeling some big cover up has taken place, and like many things that are covered up, you'll never know the truth.
 
ZemmamasBarnet said:
The video strikes me as though it's reporting on the plot to Hot Fuzz but with child sex abuse and sacrifice instead of murder and his boxing skills outburst wasn't dissimilar to Billy Broon's "Been places and done hings" rant. That's not to say you need to be a cultured filmmaker or skilled orator to bring these issues to light or find justice.

It's difficult reading and watching these things because you don't want to believe that there are "dark forces" rounding up kids abusing and / or killing them but on the other hand, to ignore it and sweep it under the rug of your consciousness just allows these beasts to continue unchallenged.

A quick google of Bill Moloney led me to this article. Grim reading.

'A true horror story': The abuse of teenage boys in a detention centre | UK news | The Guardian
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This shit should never happen to anyone, anywhere, least of all to vulnerable kids who've had a severly shitty hand in life dealt to them already.

To be let down so badly and for no one to even apologise, offer councelling (aparently victims were to pay for it out of their paltry compensation) or bringing anyone to justice is the ultimate re-abuse of these poor men.

The spineless fuckers that knew what was going on and even joked to the kids being abused about the actual abuse should be jailed.

Like I've said before, I'm pretty sanguine these days after years of getting over things but this shit makes me fucking livid.
 
Brainwrong said:
This shit should never happen to anyone, anywhere, least of all to vulnerable kids who've had a severly shitty hand in life dealt to them already.

To be let down so badly and for no one to even apologise, offer councelling (aparently victims were to pay for it out of their paltry compensation) or bringing anyone to justice is the ultimate re-abuse of these poor men.

The spineless fuckers that knew what was going on and even joked to the kids being abused about the actual abuse should be jailed.

Like I've said before, I'm pretty sanguine these days after years of getting over things but this shit makes me fucking livid.
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I completely agree. Apologies if it came across otherwise (not sure from your reply).

There was the Jerry Sandusky case in the states where those that knew but didn't speak up / notify the authorities but either resigned or were fired from their positions. I'd give those fuckers the same punishment. How could anyone idly stand by and allow that to happen?
 
ZemmamasBarnet said:
I completely agree. Apologies if it came across otherwise (not sure from your reply).

There was the Jerry Sandusky case in the states where those that knew but didn't speak up / notify the authorities but either resigned or were fired from their positions. I'd give those fuckers the same punishment. How could anyone idly stand by and allow that to happen?
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No need to apologise. I was venting, not attacking you. Really hard to keep a lid on it.

That story you posted is even more galling due to the fact the other officers actually derided the kids for being fucking abused. There can be no single person that worked in that institution that is in any way innocent.
 
I think that case in the Jersey children's home would be near impossible to expose. Who do you tell? It seems this thing went right to the top. I recon if you started making noise, and going deep, you'd probably "disappear". I imagine many people wanted to do something, but were either ignored, or told to keep it quiet or else. The whole thing is vile, and I think this is a widespread problem worldwide. The biggest problem it seems, is the people involved are very rich, and powerful. I think the whole Saville thing goes much deeper, and darker, but will never fully get exposed.
 
Deeply disturbing. As a HUGE fan of his work, but also the father of a five-year-old girl, that was very upsetting to read.
 
Roman Polanski...now there's another vile piece of work, and yet, paradoxically ten years ago who spoke up for him in a libel case? Mia farrow. How fecked up is that?
 
Purple & Green said:
Roman Polanski...now there's another vile piece of work, and yet, paradoxically ten years ago who spoke up for him in a libel case? Mia farrow. How fecked up is that?
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Also, Mia constantly takes the moral highground, castigates Allen on zero evidence but never mentions supporting Polanski (who did admit to sex with a 13 year old girl) and also need mentions that her brother is actually a serial and convicted child molester.

I think Mia is a psycho bitch from hell.
 
1875 said:
I never liked that unfunny creepy bastard, I hope he is charged now?
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No. Because there was zero evidence. And the investigation that took place confirmed that Dylan had categorically not been abused.
 
Wannabehibee said:
Fair dues. Was bored waiting on the bus to go to airport and found the article whilst browsing the New York Times website.
Gotta link to the article you read?
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Yeah, I wasn't attacking you, by the way. I had misgivings about him to purely due to received wisdom though and I really should have known better. I'd be more annoyed with myself if I'd actually really had a problem with him though. But I never did because I need knew the facts as really no one else does either. The general perception debunking at the start of this article is really interesting.

The website name however is rather unfortunate...

The Woody Allen Allegations: Not So Fast - The Daily Beast
 
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