Full Auotonomy For Scottish Labour

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Smurf

Smurf

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Autonomy now given to Scottish Labour. Obviously the charge will still be 'London Labour' as we live in the era of cheap political jibes of 'Blairite' and 'Red Tory'. Nonetheless I think this is a positive move not that it'll make any difference in terms of votes for Labour in Scotland.
 
Smurf said:
Autonomy now given to Scottish Labour. Obviously the charge will still be 'London Labour' as we live in the era of cheap political jibes of 'Blairite' and 'Red Tory'. Nonetheless I think this is a positive move not that it'll make any difference in terms of votes for Labour in Scotland.
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In recent times the lack of autonomy has held Scottish Labour back imo. What will happen in instances where ScoLab and Britlab disagree? Will BritLab pull rank? I'd like to see a strong labour party in an independent Scotland.
 
Smurf said:
Autonomy now given to Scottish Labour. Obviously the charge will still be 'London Labour' as we live in the era of cheap political jibes of 'Blairite' and 'Red Tory'. Nonetheless I think this is a positive move not that it'll make any difference in terms of votes for Labour in Scotland.
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Fully autonomous with UK Labour. That doesn't even make sense.
 
sounds good but only highlighted to me how not autonomous ScoLab have been for the last couple of years while claiming to be autonomous

ie uk lab picked mp candidates

the scolab rep on the nec is nominated not voted upon - ie kez is anti corbyn so expect an anti corbyn scolab rep? .... anti corbyn might be too strong - not pro-corbyn

tbf i'm cynical - they lost me a decade or so ago.

whatever scolab do now to improve their fortunes it will be playing the long game, tucked in behind the noisy but substance-less tories it will hard to be heard.

having said that for all the tories are noisy - their constant rhetoric about constitution defenders while offering nothing in policy or direction is tired already and we are only months in to this sco govt parliment.
 
I think a fully autonomous SL would be brilliant, even of they shared some views and philosophies with Labour in The UK. Having Kezia and Jeremy as the leaders points in different directions, just like have Owen Smith and Neil Findlay in charge as well.They just don't work.

Smith/Dugdale or Corbyn/Findlay makes sense, with a mutual understanding they support each other. But the problem is that not every single member of Scottish Labour is a unionist, so there's a serious question about where SL stand on that. Answer that, and they could potentially flourish. I'd certainly be interested.
 
Smurf said:
Autonomy now given to Scottish Labour. Obviously the charge will still be 'London Labour' as we live in the era of cheap political jibes of 'Blairite' and 'Red Tory'. Nonetheless I think this is a positive move not that it'll make any difference in terms of votes for Labour in Scotland.
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"Full Auotonomy For Scottish Labour"

Is that a promise ... or perhaps a vow?

Turns out it's a proposal by the NEC to allow the SLP to select Parliamentary Members, 1 seat on the NEC (not 10% or so to reflect membership) and some policy decisions along the lines of what Holyrood has. Even this minimal amount of delegated responsibility is subject to agreement by conference.

Given Labours leadership up here humming and hawing prior to the last UK leadership election it's more a faltering step rather than full auotonomy For Scottish Labour.

So aye. There is still much, too much that will be London Labour.
 
English Labour maybe finds Scottish labour a distraction in its fight to win back the ukip vote. Voila autonomy.


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Its been a long time since I cared about Scottish Labour, with the odd exception like Malcolm Chisholm, although I have the highest regard for a lot of what Mr Corbyn has to say.
 
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