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A Labour whitewash in Scotland may still not be enough to keep the Tories out of Downing street.
 
joethehibby said:
If the trend were to continue, independence would become pie in the sky and the only way to get rid of the tories would be for scotland to become labour and the extra seats would surely keep them out . Bit drastic but possibly the only solution 🤔
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That does fuck all for Independence. Labour made a horses arse of their time in power under McConnell.
Plus they have jumped onto the Brexit boat which makes them more toxic.
Scotland goes nowhere under Labour or conservative as a devolved nation.
Devolution has given Scotland just enough rope, if not to hang it, enough for Westminster to tighten it when they feel necessary.
 
greencol said:
That does fuck all for Independence. Labour made a horses arse of their time in power under McConnell.
Plus they have jumped onto the Brexit boat which makes them more toxic.
Scotland goes nowhere under Labour or conservative as a devolved nation.
Devolution has given Scotland just enough rope, if not hang it, enough for Westminster to tighten it when they feel necessary.
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All true, but don’t see any other solution to get away from tories🤷‍♂️ we’ll just have to put up and shut up then 😩
 
joethehibby said:
All true, but don’t see any other solution to get away from tories🤷‍♂️ we’ll just have to put up and shut up then 😩
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Pretty much. If England don't want Labour it doesn't matter what Scotland does. The ONLY way out is Independence.

Or emigrate!
 
If 45 snp seats went to the labour party and they still didn’t get in then your correct and it really is a lost cause .
It’s hard to believe that there isn’t enough working-class voters to get these tory numbnuts to feck, depressing right enough 😩
 
joethehibby said:
If 45 snp seats went to the labour party and they still didn’t get in then your correct and it really is a lost cause .
It’s hard to believe that there isn’t enough working-class voters to get these tory numbnuts to feck, depressing right enough 😩
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I'm pretty old school like you Joe and amazed at the British electorate and their choices, but "working class" when it comes to voting means nothing these days.
 
Maybe I was misreading twatter last night but it seemed the tories beat the SNP in some by election last night?Galloway or something?
 
It's all your own fault for not choosing to have millions in the trust fund. /s/


Edit Point. Think I was intending this for the Tories thread. Scummy arses that they are. Someone mentioned Tories here and triggered.
 
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jetsam1 said:
It's all your own fault for not choosing to have millions in the trust fund. /s/


Edit Point. Think I was intending this for the Tories thread. Scummy arses that they are. Someone mentioned Tories here and triggered.
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I see Sturgeon's sis has stated that she would vote tory before voting for either of the female leadership candidates. 🤣
 
The SNP is an embarrassment to the people of Scotland. Stinks of corruption. Promises a new politics yet indulges in all the duplicitous shenanigans we see down the road. Fifty percent of the population want independence and a decent percentage of the other fifty percent are open to being persuaded. Scotland is ready to embrace independence. Just a pity there's no proper political representation to lead it.
 
Smurf said:
The SNP is an embarrassment to the people of Scotland. Stinks of corruption. Promises a new politics yet indulges in all the duplicitous shenanigans we see down the road. Fifty percent of the population want independence and a decent percentage of the other fifty percent are open to being persuaded. Scotland is ready to embrace independence. Just a pity there's no proper political representation to lead it.
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It makes you wonder if there are any HONEST politicians .
 
Smurf said:
The SNP is an embarrassment to the people of Scotland. Stinks of corruption. Promises a new politics yet indulges in all the duplicitous shenanigans we see down the road. Fifty percent of the population want independence and a decent percentage of the other fifty percent are open to being persuaded. Scotland is ready to embrace independence. Just a pity there's no proper political representation to lead it.
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It has turned into a complete mess for sure.
Too many yes men makes for complacency.
 
This is quite funny. I've seen loads of stuff written about the SNP being corrupt, Murrel's a crook, Sturgeon was at it, etc..., but nothing solid has been published that shows any criminality and there's certainly been nothing which affects the running of the country (unlike heaps of Tory sleaze and Labour impotence).
 
SNP President has a bit of sorting out to do.
Haven't seen him posting here for a while, and I guess he won't be in the immediate future.
 
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