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EH17 Jimmy said:
Does it tell them that someone who cries racism holds all the best cards?

One person's word changes the situation?
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I think there's a lot of extrapolation from an awful event. I don't think it demonstrates two teir policing, no matter how much Farage screams about it. The circumstances around this awful case need to be fully investigated and action taken as appropriate. It looks to me like a cop made a catastrophic error. From what @Beagle said I can understand why the cop took the approach he did, but it apoears that he didn't actually look at what was happening when he did so. That's nothing to do with an imagined policy of two teir policing, whatever Farage or Musk may scream.

Of course internet sleuths know better, which is why a cop with no connection to this has had to go into hiding after being misidentified. Farage and Musk won't care about that. Plausible deniability.
 
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What folk are not getting on here and elsewhere, is that this brutal incident, exposes fully, what many know or suspect to be the case. And to say "we must all come together" and that this "must not happen again" is just the empty pointless words we've all heard and are sick of hearing.

The bottom line is if it was a non white on the ground bleeding to death following a horrendous stabbing frenzy, there's no chance he's put in handcuffs.

Everyone knows that's the case and the typical empty rhetoric will no longer cut it.
 
I was reading the latest output from Paul Embery the now and he mentions this.......


Part 11 of the ⁠Equality Act 2010 outlines the Public Sector Equality Duty and provisions for "positive action".

It permits treating certain individuals more favorably to address disadvantage, meet different needs, or increase participation among those with protected characteristics (e.g., race, sex, disability), provided it remains within the law.


www.paulembery.com

For the race-obsessed British state, the bill is landing

As with the Southport massacre, the murder of Henry Nowak will have ramifications far beyond the immediate events
www.paulembery.com www.paulembery.com
 
From the same article. And it appears there IS a two tier approach......



For the police, the road to this new politicised world began with the appalling murder of Stephen Lawrence and the subsequent Macpherson report, which branded the force ‘institutionally racist’, and for which senior officers seem to have spent most of the years since desperately trying to atone.

This has led them to some pretty dark places.

It is, for example, the current position of the National Police Chiefs’ Council, as set out in its ‘race action plan’, that its desired goal of ‘racial equity’ means

‘responding to individuals and communities according to their specific needs’

and that ‘it does not mean treating everyone

“the same” or being “colour blind”’.

So much for equality before the law!
 
FTJT said:
As I understand it the sequence of events is

1) Brother of the killer calls bizzies to talk about a racist assault

2) Dispatcher tells coppers what's apparently gone on

3) Coppers arrive, guy isn't obviously dying

4) Coppers then completely ignore everything he has to say because they've done what dispatch told them to

5) Tragedy

I don't think the problem is woke policing, I think it's catastrophically incurious policing from rozzers believing the first thing they're told and treating anyone who they mentally put into the 'problem' category as vermin. It's how suspects (particularly brown ones) get the shit kicked out of them when they're already down, it's how 'fenians' like us get kettled at Hampden, it's how teenagers riding around on ebikes get chased down and run over by cop vans. It happens again and again, and people don't get upset when they think the recipients deserve it, but we should be worried about it all the time
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Can't say I've ever been "kettled at Hampden " or anywhere else and an old woman was seriously injured by a twat on an e bike round here recently but hey its only kids having fun eh ?
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
I was reading the latest output from Paul Embery the now and he mentions this.....


Part 11 of the ⁠Equality Act 2010 outlines the Public Sector Equality Duty and provisions for "positive action".

It permits treating certain individuals more favorably to address disadvantage, meet different needs, or increase participation among those with protected characteristics (e.g., race, sex, disability), provided it remains within the law.


www.paulembery.com

For the race-obsessed British state, the bill is landing

As with the Southport massacre, the murder of Henry Nowak will have ramifications far beyond the immediate events
www.paulembery.com www.paulembery.com
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Note 'provided it remains within the law'. None of which excuses the coppers in the Henry Nowak case.
 
Archie said:
Note 'provided it remains within the law'. None of which excuses the coppers in the Henry Nowak case.
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And yet the NPCC say......

It is, for example, the current position of the National Police Chiefs’ Council, as set out in its ‘race action plan’, that its desired goal of ‘racial equity’ means

‘responding to individuals and communities according to their specific needs’

and that ‘it does not mean treating everyone

“the same” or being “colour blind”’.

So much for equality before the law!
 
"It does not mean treating everyone the same."


That's sounds pretty damning to me Archie that there is a two tier system.
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
From the same article. And it appears there IS a two tier approach....



For the police, the road to this new politicised world began with the appalling murder of Stephen Lawrence and the subsequent Macpherson report, which branded the force ‘institutionally racist’, and for which senior officers seem to have spent most of the years since desperately trying to atone.

This has led them to some pretty dark places.

It is, for example, the current position of the National Police Chiefs’ Council, as set out in its ‘race action plan’, that its desired goal of ‘racial equity’ means

‘responding to individuals and communities according to their specific needs’

and that ‘it does not mean treating everyone

“the same” or being “colour blind”’.

So much for equality before the law!
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Paul Embury is hardly neutral here. That doesn't make him wrong, but there's a lot of spinning in the article. I would again point to @Beagle excellent summary of policing practice. The drum beat is that the cops did what they did because Henry Nowak was white. An alternative view is that they completely misread the situation with disasterous consequences. No one has actually provided any evidence that the police acted on racial gounds. But boy are the making a lot of noise about it.
 
The bits are posted are from links in Emberys article Archie. The equality act link is provided by him.

And the 'current position' link is from the National Police Chief Council.

And both show that policing is not done equally mate.

Dress it up how you want but those are the official positions of the equality act and the NPCC.
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
The bits are posted are from links in Emberys article Archie. The equality act link is provided by him.

And the 'current position' link is from the National Police Chief Council.

And both show that policing is not done equally mate.

Dress it up how you want but those are the official positions of the equality act and the NPCC.
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Spun heavily by Embury. I guess the key question is which view do you take: a) this was a grotesque failure by the police on the day, or b) clear evidence of an anti white policing policy?
 
Archie said:
Spun heavily by Embury. I guess the key question is which view do you take: a) this was a grotesque failure by the police on the day, or b) clear evidence of an anti white policing policy?
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Spun heavily? By providing links to official policy?

Aye ok then Archie 🙄
 
Regarding Beagles excellent summary would I be correct in thinking Police Scotland or the Scottish Police Forces back in the day work a wee bit different from the Polis down south?

I used to get a chuckle when institutions fell over themselves to declare they were institutionaly racist.

Lothian and Borders Fire brigade came out with that after the Lawrence murder.

Did It never occured to the dafties that maybe ethnic minorities did not want to join the fire brigade?

Maybe they should have went out and press ganged some black geezer heading out for a pint of milk and some rolls and forced him to be a fireman.
 
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Archie said:
So are you saying that the legislation caused Henry Novak's death?
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The stabbing caused his death, its been said he wouldnt have survived whatever happened but legislation certainly made the police act the way they did. Theyre scared shitless of being branded racist
 
Forzahibs said:
Can't say I've ever been "kettled at Hampden " or anywhere else and an old woman was seriously injured by a twat on an e bike round here recently but hey its only kids having fun eh ?
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They should be able to shunt the little bastards off their bikes
 
paigntonhibby said:
The stabbing caused his death, its been said he wouldnt have survived whatever happened but legislation certainly made the police act the way they did. Theyre scared shitless of being branded racist
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That pretty much sums up modern day policing
 
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