Dunno why pique was so adamant it wasn't a pen, feckin stonewaller
Yeah
And a shocking dive from Fabregas there, shouldve been booked tbh
questionable one from Pedro too, if he had stood up he'd have been guaranteed a penalty
It was a penalty, dinnae talk pish.
He fell under Alonso, definately feel that if he had stayed up Alonso would have ran through him (Like Di Maria on the edge of the box)
am i the only @@$@ watching Aberdeen and Ross County then....![]()

Is that the game on the tattie field:hmmm
The pitch is shocking
I see Rc have took the lead, minutes to go

Hate the sky commentators it's like watching real madrids own channel.
I'll get hammered from the Barca disciples here, but aaaaanyway...
Much as I like Barca's lovely football, it's not the be-all and end-all of football existence. When really good sides like Madrid, Milan et al set up to counter their game, they appear to lack the capacity to vary their play. That is, in my opinion, undeniably their Achilles heel. However, they're so good that really only other very good sides have the quality to exploit it.
I remember having an argument with my pal when Chelski turned them over - and I am absolutely NOT a Chelsea lover, far from it - but the whole "anti-football" schtick wore a bit thin when you looked at Chelsea's vastly depleted personnel. Sometimes it seems to me people get all indignant when teams decide to try and counter Barcelona, rather than stand on the pitch and admire them.
I reiterate - I think they're a great side and I love watching them, but they don't have some divine right to trounce all in their path. Some of their followers, however, seem to be turning into really bad losers.
I actually agree with you, they seem to be easily countered by good teams now. As for the devine right and sore loser comments, I hated Madrid before tonight, I hated Gerry Armstrong before tonight too, I don't think anyone has a devine right to anything either?
I'll get hammered from the Barca disciples here, but aaaaanyway...
Much as I like Barca's lovely football, it's not the be-all and end-all of football existence. When really good sides like Madrid, Milan et al set up to counter their game, they appear to lack the capacity to vary their play. That is, in my opinion, undeniably their Achilles heel. However, they're so good that really only other very good sides have the quality to exploit it.
I remember having an argument with my pal when Chelski turned them over - and I am absolutely NOT a Chelsea lover, far from it - but the whole "anti-football" schtick wore a bit thin when you looked at Chelsea's vastly depleted personnel. Sometimes it seems to me people get all indignant when teams decide to try and counter Barcelona, rather than stand on the pitch and admire them.
I reiterate - I think they're a great side and I love watching them, but they don't have some divine right to trounce all in their path. Some of their followers, however, seem to be turning into really bad losers.
Hate the sky commentators it's like watching real madrids own channel.

I wasn't singling you out or anything, mate. I just meant in general.
As to the initial point, do you think the inability to vary the play is down to personnel or a sort of bloody-minded adherence to their game? After all, it's not like they haven't historically been able to mix it up a bit - I remember the team with Hristo Stoichkov in it, they could play virtually any style you could think of.
The Bayern Munich model could be the next great example in football: they have all the work rate and application of Barca off the ball, but they have the ability to mix it up in possession while still being a joy to watch.
The key players aren't doing that little bit extra that they're capable of. I guess it's hard to sustain that extreme standard of excellence. That - In my opinion is where Barcelona are suffering at this time.I have followed Barca since I was a kid, I will defend them on here wherever its required, I don't take it personally.
The have the same 4 3 3 playing style from 8 years old to the first team, its doesn't change. For me they over play it too much now, the old fashioned walking it into the net syndrome. I also think they are lacking a leader off the pitch and there seems to be player trouble too?
Christians 2 Lionels 1 this efty.
Not if the ref had not been a cheating bastard, denying Barca a clear penalty in the dying seconds. It seems the Huns of Spain are favoured as much by refs as the Huns of Scotland.
And the Celtc of Spain play the ref bias card....
Did Valdes chin the ref? My mate says he ended up in the cells.
And the Celtc of Spain play the ref bias card....
Did Valdes chin the ref? My mate says he ended up in the cells.
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