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I'm no big fan of my fellow petty parochial man, who was also presumably stirring the Scottish sectarian pot, 13 years ago, however he nails it, I doff my cap, for the unpalatable honesty, unlike the kept dreadful Scottish MSM, that are not welcome here, rubbish being churned out as I type.

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Tom English: 'The self-pitying Goram still sees himself as the victim'

ANDY GORAM is a hard man to ignore, but it's really worth the effort. There is no getting away from him these days.
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GORDONSMITH7 said:
I'm no psychiatrist but it must have been selective.
Oh aye and his flute gesturing and wearing a black armband on the pitch for his pal Billy 'King Rat ' Wright, leader of the sectarian Catholic slaughter machine the UVF, who thought that they were too namby pamby, forming the LVF, before being assassinated. Keeping sectarianism alive after death did not seem to bother Andy.

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I dont know mate, but he more than likely suffered from it way before he was diagnosed with it. Mental health is a scourge.

I dont disagree with your last paragraph.
 
GORDONSMITH7 said:
I'm no big fan of my fellow petty parochial man, who was also presumably stirring the Scottish sectarian pot, 13 years ago, however he nails it, I doff my cap, for the unpalatable honesty, unlike the kept dreadful Scottish MSM, that are not welcome here, rubbish being churned out as I type.

www.scotsman.com

Tom English: 'The self-pitying Goram still sees himself as the victim'

ANDY GORAM is a hard man to ignore, but it's really worth the effort. There is no getting away from him these days.
www.scotsman.com www.scotsman.com

BIG G
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I read that article from 2009 yesterday.
Tom English doesn't miss him.
 
I'll await your dissent, @BonScott64. Andy Goram is not "our greatest ever goalkeeper". He may be the greatest Hibs goalie that you have ever seen, but he is certainly not better than Lawrie Leslie, perhaps even Tommy Younger and Jim Leighton, and certainly not better than Ronnie Simpson, the aforementioned councillor. We got a Franck Sauzee, Russell Latapy and David Gray all-rolled-into-one keeper when we got Simpson, at the supposedly tail-end of his career. In the short time that he was with us, he was simply outstanding. Out-fuk'n-standin'!!! (Sorry, @P&G.) Then, Stein betrayed us even further by coming back to Easter Road and stealing our outstanding keeper for sweeties. At the time, we were playing good fitbaw, but Stein pulled the feet from us in the semi-final against Dunfermline at Tincastle. Goram? Very good goalie indeed, and his best days were probably at the team that went defunct in 2012.
 
Late last night I watched the movie Legend. Its a particularly poor movie but nonetheless I watched it to the end. When I woke this morning I picked up my phone and looked online for information about the Krays and their lads in their "Firm". (Obviously I was aware of who they were and being married to a girl who's family come from Londons East End, I'd heard stories of their infamy.)

Anyway I ended up on Amazon looking at books (ghost) written on their behalf. As you do I then looked at the reviews posted by people who had purchased them. Many written by young to middle aged women. It was then I came to my senses and changed my wish to buy any of the books on the Krays.

Why? Mainly due to the first few reviews I read. These two "gentlemen" were seemingly regarded as victims of "misrepresentation" and had morals most members of society could never match!

Two thugs who had made me wonder why they chose the path they did. Was it their upbringing? Why were they lauded at their height by a sycophantic media? What drew celebrities and the titled towards them? What drew thousands to line the streets as Reggie was taken to his final resting place? Why did they applaud his cortege?

At the end of the day I no longer care. They took others lives. What I do care about now is what on earth made these two, truly awful men such celebrities. They didn't just kill two men who were lowlife like themselves. They extorted money from honest business people trying hard to make a living. How on earth does that turn them into some kind of Robin Hood characters I will never know.

Two men every bit as bad as any UVF foot soldier. People who not only derive pleasure from inflicting pain on people, but revel in it.

Why these young ladies have such admiration for the Krays or why Andy Goram had a loyalist shrine in a room of his house, well God only knows. A shrine to a group who tortured and killed innocent catholics.

I'll remember Gorams penalty save for Hibs in a two legged league Cup semi at Ibrox. I also witnessed him picking the ball up in Liege thinking it had come back off the post! A moment he would recall on TV. No debate, the best keeper I've seen and not only in a Hibs shirt. But please spare me what a great guy he was. Each and every one of us are responsible for our own actions. Nobody else's fault but our own.

Thousands will line the streets of Govan to send him off no doubt. A great shame such a great proportion will hold him in esteem for more than his goal keeping skills.

My sincere condolences to his family.
 
WJC1848 said:
I'll await your dissent, @BonScott64. Andy Goram is not "our greatest ever goalkeeper". He may be the greatest Hibs goalie that you have ever seen, but he is certainly not better than Lawrie Leslie, perhaps even Tommy Younger and Jim Leighton, and certainly not better than Ronnie Simpson, the aforementioned councillor. We got a Franck Sauzee, Russell Latapy and David Gray all-rolled-into-one keeper when we got Simpson, at the supposedly tail-end of his career. In the short time that he was with us, he was simply outstanding. Out-fuk'n-standin'!!! (Sorry, @P&G.) Then, Stein betrayed us even further by coming back to Easter Road and stealing our outstanding keeper for sweeties. At the time, we were playing good fitbaw, but Stein pulled the feet from us in the semi-final against Dunfermline at Tincastle. Goram? Very good goalie indeed, and his best days were probably at the team that went defunct in 2012.
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Goram was a good keeper for us , as was leighton , but for worldie saves , some of Rocky’s were exactly that , world class 🤔👏
 
WJC1848 said:
I'll await your dissent, @BonScott64. Andy Goram is not "our greatest ever goalkeeper". He may be the greatest Hibs goalie that you have ever seen, but he is certainly not better than Lawrie Leslie, perhaps even Tommy Younger and Jim Leighton, and certainly not better than Ronnie Simpson, the aforementioned councillor. We got a Franck Sauzee, Russell Latapy and David Gray all-rolled-into-one keeper when we got Simpson, at the supposedly tail-end of his career. In the short time that he was with us, he was simply outstanding. Out-fuk'n-standin'!!! (Sorry, @P&G.) Then, Stein betrayed us even further by coming back to Easter Road and stealing our outstanding keeper for sweeties. At the time, we were playing good fitbaw, but Stein pulled the feet from us in the semi-final against Dunfermline at Tincastle. Goram? Very good goalie indeed, and his best days were probably at the team that went defunct in 2012.
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No dissent from me. I was privileged to see Goram and to me he is the best goalkeeper to stand in goal for us but your points are valid.
Picking a Hibs 11 he'd be in my goal no question.
 
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WJC1848 said:
I'll await your dissent, @BonScott64. Andy Goram is not "our greatest ever goalkeeper". He may be the greatest Hibs goalie that you have ever seen, but he is certainly not better than Lawrie Leslie, perhaps even Tommy Younger and Jim Leighton, and certainly not better than Ronnie Simpson, the aforementioned councillor. We got a Franck Sauzee, Russell Latapy and David Gray all-rolled-into-one keeper when we got Simpson, at the supposedly tail-end of his career. In the short time that he was with us, he was simply outstanding. Out-fuk'n-standin'!!! (Sorry, @P&G.) Then, Stein betrayed us even further by coming back to Easter Road and stealing our outstanding keeper for sweeties. At the time, we were playing good fitbaw, but Stein pulled the feet from us in the semi-final against Dunfermline at Tincastle. Goram? Very good goalie indeed, and his best days were probably at the team that went defunct in 2012.
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Brilliant post, and if we had some very very old Hibees on here no doubt they would be making a case for Bill Harper or Harry Rennie. I'd say a player can only be the greatest of his particular era, the greatest ever is impossible to judge.
 
As we famously sang at Ibrox, there are indeed only 2 Andy Gorams.
I prefer to keep this thread about the one that was one of the best Scottish goalies of all time.
 
I'm surprised folk on here are saying when they met him he was disrespectful towards Hibs.
When he appeared on the Jason English podcast not that long ago he said that he loved his time at Hibs and it was fantastic meeting people like Lawrie Reilly who played with his dad.
 
Forzahibs said:
Rocky not in the same class as Goram
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Since I started watching Hibs in the mid-70s Goram has easily been the best keeper I've seen. There was an Edinburgh derby around 87-88 at the PBS where we were getting beat as usual but if it wasn't for him the gunts could have easily scored 7 or 8. He was outstanding that day. He was brilliant against FC Liege as well apart from the 40-yard rocket they scored in the second leg
 
Thomo0762 said:
Since I started watching Hibs in the mid-70s Goram has easily been the best keeper I've seen. There was an Edinburgh derby around 87-88 at the PBS where we were getting beat as usual but if it wasn't for him the gunts could have easily scored 7 or 8. He was outstanding that day. He was brilliant against FC Liege as well apart from the 40-yard rocket they scored in the second leg
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Certains aspects of the game dont come over well on the radio i guess
 
Thomo0762 said:
Since I started watching Hibs in the mid-70s Goram has easily been the best keeper I've seen. There was an Edinburgh derby around 87-88 at the PBS where we were getting beat as usual but if it wasn't for him the gunts could have easily scored 7 or 8. He was outstanding that day. He was brilliant against FC Liege as well apart from the 40-yard rocket they scored in the second leg
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Dino zoff on Peter schmeikels shoulders aided by shilton, lev Yashin and sepp maier wouldnae have saved that shot

Obviously Makalambe would have held it.
 
Doc Shrink said:
It’s the red Smarties.
They tip him over the edge.

Rocky was more than a decent keeper for us, no doubt about that. But Goram was a class above that.
Any Hibs fan (apart from Joe obviously) would realise that.
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It’s all perception but I reckon Andy had his best years at hibs, he was at his fittest, and was superb week in week out. I think his lifestyle choices were starting to play a factor at Rangers.

He was for me the best goalkeeper I’ve seen in a hibs jersey.

I think he would have achieved much more but for his lifestyle choices.
 
Purple & Green said:
It’s all perception but I reckon Andy had his best years at hibs, he was at his fittest, and was superb week in week out. I think his lifestyle choices were starting to play a factor at Rangers.

He was for me the best goalkeeper I’ve seen in a hibs jersey.

I think he would have achieved much more but for his lifestyle choices.
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Did Goram really play for Hibs? You’d never know if you paid any attention to the media.
 
Purple & Green said:
It’s all perception but I reckon Andy had his best years at hibs, he was at his fittest, and was superb week in week out. I think his lifestyle choices were starting to play a factor at Rangers.

He was for me the best goalkeeper I’ve seen in a hibs jersey.

I think he would have achieved much more but for his lifestyle choices.
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I watched a 2-0 win over Rangers at Easter Road from 1989 last night. Goals from Houchen and Weir. A very young Goram in the Hibs goal. His positioning was remarkably good and was evident in that game. Lost his agility at Rangers due to a knee injury but his positioning and quick reactions kept him at the top of the Scottish game.
 
Beagle said:
Did Goram really play for Hibs? You’d never know if you paid any attention to the media.
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He is best known for single handedly denying Ceitic in game after game and is synonymous with Rangers. All thiscomes up when you search online under his name.
Its hard to find much online footage of him playing for Hibs and there was none when searching under his name.
As I said above I watched 25 minutes of highlights of a home game against Rangers from 1989.
Is there any other obvious footage online of him playing for Hibs?
 
There is a 35 second clip of him saving a penalty for Hibs against East Fife. He looks tiny.
 
I’m too young to have seen Andy Goram at his peak but I do remember a slightly bigger version playing for Motherwell.

My papa raves about how good he was and he’s seen them all. That will do for me.

RIP Andy Goram.
 
Jack K said:
He is best known for single handedly denying Ceitic in game after game and is synonymous with Rangers. All thiscomes up when you search online under his name.
Its hard to find much online footage of him playing for Hibs and there was none when searching under his name.
As I said above I watched 25 minutes of highlights of a home game against Rangers from 1989.
Is there any other obvious footage online of him playing for Hibs?
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It was more a comment on the Hun bias in the ‘Scottish’ media. W⚓️s
 
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