This sounds interesting re China

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This radio dystopia will chill you to your bones – because it’s not fiction

Radio 4’s This Week is Family Week turns the plight of the Uyghurs in China into a warning to rival The Handmaid’s Tale or Brave New World
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“For the past month, Radio 4 has been stuffed with programmes about Orwell and Kafka. Like Big Brother, they’ve become inescapable, so much so that their shadow seems to fall across even unrelated programmes, such as This Week is Family Week (Radio 4).

Part of Breaking the Rules, a new series of one-off plays, it took place in an Orwellian surveillance state where “pre-crime” (such as speaking with people in another country) was punished as severely as actual crime. High-tech scanners rated citizens: green for the compliant, orange for the suspicious; red meant a one-way ticket to “re-education”. Minorities faced sterilisation. In a classroom, a group of adults guilty of being born into the wrong race were subjected to state-mandated brainwashing. “Ethnic unity is good, religion is bad,” they chanted. One glanced down for a moment, only for a guard’s voice to blare over the tannoy: “Student 526, don’t look at the floor, keep your eyes up!”

As dystopias go, it was all shamelessly derivative. Characters hiding forbidden books, lest the smiling censors from the One True Party burn them? A cheap mash-up of Brave New World and Fahrenheit 451. State-appointed “Aunts” invading a family home, dictating who should sleep in whose bed? A blatant rip-off from The Handmaid’s Tale. Only the laziest hack would make this stuff up – the catch being that the society depicted here wasn’t made up.

It was, in fact, Britain’s fourth-largest trading partner, China. The characters we met were fictional, but the kind of oppression they faced was based on documented testimony from the 2021 independent Uyghur Tribunal. From that evidence, writer Avin Shah and director Emma Harding created a gripping, satirical drama, making surprisingly effective use of non-region-specific accents (cut-glass RP for Mandarin-speakers, an Eastern-European burr for anyone not fluent in the language).”

To think we have given western jobs and technology to this unrepentant communist hellhole in exchange for cheap tat and some expensive tat.
 
I am desperately hoping a new job will come off at the end of this month, in which case I will be able to quit this analyst job in finance I've held for the last 4 years.

There are a million reasons I'm desperate to quit. And believe me, for someone with my background and financial status, it's very hard to voluntarily walk away from the big bag of cash this game represents -- I feel like I'm doing something very irresponsible to my family, but it really does make me miserable as hell.

Anyway, one of those many reasons that relates to this is that I recently raised a question around whether it's ethical to invest in Chinese companies, given the regime there. I was told (rather condescendingly, I might add) that I "need to be careful not to view China through a Western lens."

So just remember guys -- if you find yourself criticising this Orwellian shitshow, that's your Western lens talking. If you could only swap that for a "there's fucktonnes of cash to be made here" lens, you'd feel very differently.
 
A slight improvement on 90s chat @aggie when the patter was that working with them would turn them all into nice liberals.

A pathology that in various contexts we can't seem to escape. Of course it didn't happen, nor will it happen with Islam, or any other part or population of the world that doesn't see the appeal in emulating a broken, fading and self hating bunch of geriatrics.

In fact, it seems to me that if anything we've become more like them, than they have become like we used to be.
 
I am desperately hoping a new job will come off at the end of this month, in which case I will be able to quit this analyst job in finance I've held for the last 4 years.

There are a million reasons I'm desperate to quit. And believe me, for someone with my background and financial status, it's very hard to voluntarily walk away from the big bag of cash this game represents -- I feel like I'm doing something very irresponsible to my family, but it really does make me miserable as hell.

Anyway, one of those many reasons that relates to this is that I recently raised a question around whether it's ethical to invest in Chinese companies, given the regime there. I was told (rather condescendingly, I might add) that I "need to be careful not to view China through a Western lens."

So just remember guys -- if you find yourself criticising this Orwellian shitshow, that's your Western lens talking. If you could only swap that for a "there's fucktonnes of cash to be made here" lens, you'd feel very differently.
Go for it amigo and if not successful this time there will be future opportunities.You won't regret it.

BIG G
 
I am desperately hoping a new job will come off at the end of this month, in which case I will be able to quit this analyst job in finance I've held for the last 4 years.

There are a million reasons I'm desperate to quit. And believe me, for someone with my background and financial status, it's very hard to voluntarily walk away from the big bag of cash this game represents -- I feel like I'm doing something very irresponsible to my family, but it really does make me miserable as hell.

Anyway, one of those many reasons that relates to this is that I recently raised a question around whether it's ethical to invest in Chinese companies, given the regime there. I was told (rather condescendingly, I might add) that I "need to be careful not to view China through a Western lens."

So just remember guys -- if you find yourself criticising this Orwellian shitshow, that's your Western lens talking. If you could only swap that for a "there's fucktonnes of cash to be made here" lens, you'd feel very differently.
Best wishes with the new direction mate. 👍
 
I am desperately hoping a new job will come off at the end of this month, in which case I will be able to quit this analyst job in finance I've held for the last 4 years.

There are a million reasons I'm desperate to quit. And believe me, for someone with my background and financial status, it's very hard to voluntarily walk away from the big bag of cash this game represents -- I feel like I'm doing something very irresponsible to my family, but it really does make me miserable as hell.

Anyway, one of those many reasons that relates to this is that I recently raised a question around whether it's ethical to invest in Chinese companies, given the regime there. I was told (rather condescendingly, I might add) that I "need to be careful not to view China through a Western lens."

So just remember guys -- if you find yourself criticising this Orwellian shitshow, that's your Western lens talking. If you could only swap that for a "there's fucktonnes of cash to be made here" lens, you'd feel very differently.
Very admirable aggie. Very few people have the integrity to do something like this.
 
I've chucked a couple of jobs on principle Aggers. Denied promotions cos of stances taken anaw. If it has to be done it has to be done. I'd just suggest being clear with yourself it is the reason before doing anything hasty. Most jobs are shite and almost everything is tangled up with China at one or more steps removed!
 
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I've chucked a couple of jobs on principle Aggers. Denied promotions cos of stances taken anaw. If it has to be done it has to be done. I'd just suggest being clear with yourself it is the reason before doing anything hasty. Most jobs are shite and almost everything is tangled up with China at one or more steps removed!
Yep. Been thinking about it for over a year. My wife is fully behind me, too, which is important.

I’ve had many so-called “shit” jobs. My first job after school was Burger King for 4 years. I did many years in hospitality. But I’ve never dreaded work like I do now.

Asset management is, by and large, posh betting. It’s little more than a way that folk with no discernible talent can make pots of cash for doing very little of note, other than noodling around the edges of portfolios. Some folk love it, and good luck to them. But I just can’t do it any longer. I’ve spoken about the notion of “soul”; well, it’s killing mine. And I’ve never been ashamed of any of my “shit” jobs, but I don’t like telling people about this one.

It may sound idealistic, but life is not a dress rehearsal. I want to feel square with myself again.
 
Yep. Been thinking about it for over a year. My wife is fully behind me, too, which is important.

I’ve had many so-called “shit” jobs. My first job after school was Burger King for 4 years. I did many years in hospitality. But I’ve never dreaded work like I do now.

Asset management is, by and large, posh betting. It’s little more than a way that folk with no discernible talent can make pots of cash for doing very little of note, other than noodling around the edges of portfolios. Some folk love it, and good luck to them. But I just can’t do it any longer. I’ve spoken about the notion of “soul”; well, it’s killing mine. And I’ve never been ashamed of any of my “shit” jobs, but I don’t like telling people about this one.

It may sound idealistic, but life is not a dress rehearsal. I want to feel square with myself again.
If it’s doing that to you, do it I think.

You should write Aggie. Put that phd to use. I think you could do it.
 
Aggie you've got to do what's best for you.
My dad was a lorry driver. He worked for Pettigrew for nigh on 20 years. Never missed a day.

When he retired the lads at work bought him a tankard and a wee carriage clock. Absolutely nothing from the firm.

Once id finished my apprenticeship I gave no loyalty to any firm. If a better offer came along I left and went there.

Always worked to the best of my ability though. But taking chances standing on window sills in the new town to save the firm hiring scaffolding eventually ended for me.

I'm no risking my life so someone can charge for scaffolding and pass nowt on to me.

So good luck whatever you choose.

Money isn't the be all and end all but if the work is crap I'd rather take a cut.
 
Yep. Been thinking about it for over a year. My wife is fully behind me, too, which is important.

I’ve had many so-called “shit” jobs. My first job after school was Burger King for 4 years. I did many years in hospitality. But I’ve never dreaded work like I do now.

Asset management is, by and large, posh betting. It’s little more than a way that folk with no discernible talent can make pots of cash for doing very little of note, other than noodling around the edges of portfolios. Some folk love it, and good luck to them. But I just can’t do it any longer. I’ve spoken about the notion of “soul”; well, it’s killing mine. And I’ve never been ashamed of any of my “shit” jobs, but I don’t like telling people about this one.

It may sound idealistic, but life is not a dress rehearsal. I want to feel square with myself again.

Good luck to you @aggie

I'm starting my new job with a charity on the 23rd and cannot wait. I've been working in marketing for years and had to chuck it for similar moral reasons. As my job went more into the murky world of "digital PR" I just couldn't square putting out the opportunistic bullshit and green washing my company were pushing with my own beliefs.

I also, wisely, made sure I got the backing of the missus as this will probably be it for me if I stay at my new place. No more promotions or ladder climbing but I reckon I'll be coming home happy and that's the main thing.
 
Yep. Been thinking about it for over a year. My wife is fully behind me, too, which is important.

I’ve had many so-called “shit” jobs. My first job after school was Burger King for 4 years. I did many years in hospitality. But I’ve never dreaded work like I do now.

Asset management is, by and large, posh betting. It’s little more than a way that folk with no discernible talent can make pots of cash for doing very little of note, other than noodling around the edges of portfolios. Some folk love it, and good luck to them. But I just can’t do it any longer. I’ve spoken about the notion of “soul”; well, it’s killing mine. And I’ve never been ashamed of any of my “shit” jobs, but I don’t like telling people about this one.

It may sound idealistic, but life is not a dress rehearsal. I want to feel square with myself again.
Let me jump out of my self imposed exile to wish you all the best Aggie. Given how much of our lives are taken up by work I think trying to do something that gives you some enjoyment, or at least not dread, is a worthy endeavour. Hope you get it and hope it delivers for you!
 
Yep. Been thinking about it for over a year. My wife is fully behind me, too, which is important.

I’ve had many so-called “shit” jobs. My first job after school was Burger King for 4 years. I did many years in hospitality. But I’ve never dreaded work like I do now.

Asset management is, by and large, posh betting. It’s little more than a way that folk with no discernible talent can make pots of cash for doing very little of note, other than noodling around the edges of portfolios. Some folk love it, and good luck to them. But I just can’t do it any longer. I’ve spoken about the notion of “soul”; well, it’s killing mine. And I’ve never been ashamed of any of my “shit” jobs, but I don’t like telling people about this one.

It may sound idealistic, but life is not a dress rehearsal. I want to feel square with myself again.

Go for it mate.

I'm lucky that I have a job I enjoy and, I hope, I do well.
I've had better offers but have decided to stay where I am (work life balance really)

Good luck to you 👍