They don't make em like this bloke any more...

egb_hibs

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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-30685433

This bloke's resilience is almost monty python-esque!


"In 1899 he saw the opportunity to experience his first taste of war. Abandoning his studies, he left for South Africa to serve as a trooper in the British Army during the second Boer War. As he was under military age, wasn't a British subject and didn't have his father's consent, he pretended to be 25 and signed up under a pseudonym

It was a baptism of fire which ended with him receiving bullet wounds to the stomach and groin, necessitating a return to England. []

At the outbreak of WW1 in November 1914, Carton de Wiart, now naturalised as a British subject, was serving with the Somaliland Camel Corps, fighting the forces of the Dervish state.

During an attack on an enemy stronghold, he was shot in the arm and in the face, losing his left eye and part of his ear []

During the Second Battle of Ypres, the Germans launched an artillery barrage in which Carton de Wiart's left hand was shattered. According to his autobiography, Happy Odyssey, he tore off two fingers when the doctor refused to amputate them. His hand was removed by a surgeon later that year."

Then there's the stiff upper lippedness...

(when he was shot in the face)

"He didn't check his stride but I think the bullet stung him up as his language was awful. The doctor could do nothing for his eye, but we had to keep him with us. He must have been in agony."

"I honestly believe that he regarded the loss of an eye as a blessing as it allowed him to get out of Somaliland to Europe where he thought the real action was."


These days no doubt the army has more chance of getting sued for health and safety exposures than this sort of thing!
 
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-30685433

This bloke's resilience is almost monty python-esque!


"In 1899 he saw the opportunity to experience his first taste of war. Abandoning his studies, he left for South Africa to serve as a trooper in the British Army during the second Boer War. As he was under military age, wasn't a British subject and didn't have his father's consent, he pretended to be 25 and signed up under a pseudonym

It was a baptism of fire which ended with him receiving bullet wounds to the stomach and groin, necessitating a return to England. []

At the outbreak of WW1 in November 1914, Carton de Wiart, now naturalised as a British subject, was serving with the Somaliland Camel Corps, fighting the forces of the Dervish state.

During an attack on an enemy stronghold, he was shot in the arm and in the face, losing his left eye and part of his ear []

During the Second Battle of Ypres, the Germans launched an artillery barrage in which Carton de Wiart's left hand was shattered. According to his autobiography, Happy Odyssey, he tore off two fingers when the doctor refused to amputate them. His hand was removed by a surgeon later that year."

Then there's the stiff upper lippedness...

(when he was shot in the face)

"He didn't check his stride but I think the bullet stung him up as his language was awful. The doctor could do nothing for his eye, but we had to keep him with us. He must have been in agony."

"I honestly believe that he regarded the loss of an eye as a blessing as it allowed him to get out of Somaliland to Europe where he thought the real action was."


These days no doubt the army has more chance of getting sued for health and safety exposures than this sort of thing!

He sounds like a bit of a knob EGB. He was also shit at being a soldier. It would appear.
 
He sounds like a bit of a knob EGB. He was also $#@! at being a soldier. It would appear.

How does he sound like a bit of a knob? I find that a surprising comment?

As for being crap at being a soldier - either that or being out front all the time.
 
He sounds like a bit of a knob EGB. He was also shit at being a soldier. It would appear.

I don't know about that. Folk had different values and attitudes towards all manner of things in these times. I think it's wrong to judge people in history using modern values etc..

I'm not saying we shouldn't learn from history.
 
How does he sound like a bit of a knob? I find that a surprising comment?

As for being crap at being a soldier - either that or being out front all the time.

OK, rather than being a bit of a knob, how about upper class twit.

I would still err on the crap at soldiering bit though.
(spot on with Python-esque)
 
OK, rather than being a bit of a knob, how about upper class twit.

I would still err on the crap at soldiering bit though.
(spot on with Python-esque)

I even managed to miss a bit

"Carton de Wiart lived in Poland for most of the inter-war period but his military career was not yet over. When World War Two broke out, he led a campaign in Norway in 1940 and was briefly stationed in Northern Ireland.

In April 1941 he was dispatched to form a British military mission in Yugoslavia, but his aircraft was shot down over the Mediterranean. After swimming to shore, he was captured by the Italians. Despite being in his 60s, he made numerous attempts to escape the PoW camp, on one occasion eluding recapture for eight days - quite a feat given his distinctive appearance and lack of Italian."

I'm not sure how he is an upper class twit. Upper class perhaps, but twitishness is surely a personal thing, and I don't see it this life story.

Rather a guy like this than today's china boned ruling class, who wouldn't be seen a million miles from a front line.
 
I even managed to miss a bit

"Carton de Wiart lived in Poland for most of the inter-war period but his military career was not yet over. When World War Two broke out, he led a campaign in Norway in 1940 and was briefly stationed in Northern Ireland.

In April 1941 he was dispatched to form a British military mission in Yugoslavia, but his aircraft was shot down over the Mediterranean. After swimming to shore, he was captured by the Italians. Despite being in his 60s, he made numerous attempts to escape the PoW camp, on one occasion eluding recapture for eight days - quite a feat given his distinctive appearance and lack of Italian."

I'm not sure how he is an upper class twit. Upper class perhaps, but twitishness is surely a personal thing, and I don't see it this life story.

Rather a guy like this than today's china boned ruling class, who wouldn't be seen a million miles from a front line.

You can't see the him as a twit? How about stupid ?

99% of us would have stopped the soldiering bit after being shot tae phuck in the Boer war!

I bet he had a shit kill ratio too.

Gies Paddy Mayne everytime :giggle: