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"Praveen Halappanavar said staff at University Hospital Galway told them Ireland was "a Catholic country"."


Nice one Praveen, your home country has it's own laws and conduct codes built around your religion too.

""Savita said to her she is not Catholic, she is Hindu, and why impose the law on her."

Because that's what laws are for, everyone. How ill thought.
 
Carluke_Hibee said:
"Praveen Halappanavar said staff at University Hospital Galway told them Ireland was "a Catholic country"."


Nice one Praveen, your home country has it's own laws and conduct codes built around your religion too.

""Savita said to her she is not Catholic, she is Hindu, and why impose the law on her."

Because that's what laws are for, everyone. How ill thought.
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Think you'd feel the same if it was your kids life at stake though?
 
It doesnt say how long gone she was, unless i totally missed it:dunno:

But this bit puzzles me...

He said she continued to experience pain and asked a consultant if she could be induced.

"They said unfortunately she can't because it's a Catholic country," Mr Halappanavar said.

Am i being a bit silly here, does induced not mean Induce the baby out early?

Not abort it:dunno:
 
hattrick baker said:
It doesnt say how long gone she was, unless i totally missed it:dunno:

But this bit puzzles me...

He said she continued to experience pain and asked a consultant if she could be induced.

"They said unfortunately she can't because it's a Catholic country," Mr Halappanavar said.

Am i being a bit silly here, does induced not mean Induce the baby out early?

Not abort it:dunno:
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Ah perhaps I jumped the gun. I never took account of the potential age of the unborn. It seems the terminology of the conversation at the hospital went from inducement to abortion.

I can only assume that inducement is seen as a type of abortion [in that it facilitates aborting the baby from the womb]. That is a sheer guess though.
 
Carluke_Hibee said:
I don't recall him being worried about the kid's life. They were trying to have an abortion.
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Yeah sorry i wasn't meaning his kid's life,I was meaning if your kid was in the same terrible situation as him and his wife.

You surely wouldn't say to them "Sorry Hen,it's the law"?
 
If having an abortion on an ill baby that was likely to die (and in fact did die before she had a chance to give birth) would save the mother, I'm not sure why anyone would debate that.

Thank fuck, not had an abortion thread for about a week!
 
Dub said:
Ah perhaps I jumped the gun. I never took account of the potential age of the unborn. It seems the terminology of the conversation at the hospital went from inducement to abortion.

I can only assume that inducement is seen as a type of abortion [in that it facilitates aborting the baby from the womb]. That is a sheer guess though.
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Yeah, could be dub.

I think there is more to this story though
 
Apparently it is not the case that irish law precludes interventions in cases such as this poor woman's;

http://www.independent.ie/opinion/analysis/eils-mulroy-prochoice-side-must-not-hijack-this-terrible-event-3294723.html

Catholic teaching doesn't preclude it either - Pope Pius XII in 1951;

If the saving of the life of the future mother should urgently require a surgical act or other therapeutic treatment which would have as an accessory consequence, in no way desired nor intended, but inevitable, the death of the fetus, such an act could no longer be called a direct attempt on an innocent life. Under these conditions the operation can be lawful, like other similar medical interventions granted always that a good of high worth is concerned, such as life, and that it is not possible to postpone the operation until after the birth of the child, nor to have recourse to other efficacious remedies.
 
I don't know the whole story but inducement is definitely legal in Ireland. Last night on a current affairs show they were saying something like, it was a miscarriage and she caught septicaemia but by time it was caught it was too late. I didn't really understand it to be honest. It's just very sad.
 
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