Stuttering redevelopment of Leith - more Rotterdam than Amsterdam?

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Debenhams might be the big store at OT but it's the cinema that gets folk in the place and spending in the shops that they otherwise wouldn't have.

Building it facing the wrong way hasn't helped either.
 
PILTONSTANY said:
Debenhams might be the big store at OT but it's the cinema that gets folk in the place and spending in the shops that they otherwise wouldn't have.

Building it facing the wrong way hasn't helped either.
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How much has the redevelopment stumbled on the non-development of the tram route to OT and the upheaval it's non-development caused for most businesses in Leith from the top o the walk all the way to Ocean Drive... :hmmm
 
SKII said:
How much has the redevelopment stumbled on the non-development of the tram route to OT and the upheaval it's non-development caused for most businesses in Leith from the top o the walk all the way to Ocean Drive... :hmmm
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Aye totally,they need to get it down down there as soon as it's politicaly acceptable.

Having 4 Tescos in the Leith walk area and an Asda down the road hasn't helped the shops there either.
Hopefully be a bit nicer once the new plans for the walk are done.
 
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PILTONSTANY said:
Debenhams might be the big store at OT but it's the cinema that gets folk in the place and spending in the shops that they otherwise wouldn't have.

Building it facing the wrong way hasn't helped either.
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I've read that a few times (possibly only on here, mind) and seems like bollocks.

Is the theory that it should have been built with the bars, restaurants, open plan space and decking facing ex-industrial wasteland and the banana flats instead of the harbour and Firth of Forth?
 
The__Proclaimer said:
I've read that a few times (possibly only on here, mind) and seems like bollocks.

Is the theory that it should have been built with the bars, restaurants, open plan space and decking facing ex-industrial wasteland and the banana flats instead of the harbour and Firth of Forth?
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I think they mean it would've been nicer to have a plaza type thing with outside seating etc facing into the harbour and yacht rather than the service road that's there just now.
 
OT always oppose anything Kinnaird Park want...they opposed The new Odeon but that got the go ahead too.Can appreciate both points of view, but it's the fault of the council on the first place for allowing OT/Kinnaird/Gyle/Straiton to be built and built, thereby destroying the shopping communities like Princes Street never mind Leith.

Princes Street should re-invent itself with cafes and restaurants alongside good shopping and residential too.Quite how one of Europes most fantastic streets has ended up a desolate wasteland of tartan tat shops and primark amazes me...no other country in the world would allow it.

Build the tram to OT, make Leith Walk and ER a one way loop for cars and make the pavement of Leith Walk wide as possible.And stop any more out of town building until the brown field stuff has been used.
 
southfieldhibby said:
OT always oppose anything Kinnaird Park want...they opposed The new Odeon but that got the go ahead too.Can appreciate both points of view, but it's the fault of the council on the first place for allowing OT/Kinnaird/Gyle/Straiton to be built and built, thereby destroying the shopping communities like Princes Street never mind Leith.

Princes Street should re-invent itself with cafes and restaurants alongside good shopping and residential too.Quite how one of Europes most fantastic streets has ended up a desolate wasteland of tartan tat shops and primark amazes me...no other country in the world would allow it.

Build the tram to OT, make Leith Walk and ER a one way loop for cars and make the pavement of Leith Walk wide as possible.And stop any more out of town building until the brown field stuff has been used.
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Agreed. Our council (current and ex so they are all implicated) have all let our main street Princes Street run down... It should be our flagship. I'm pissed off with our entire political structure. It's time we had an elected mayor.
 
Smurfy said:
Agreed. Our council (current and ex so they are all implicated) have all let our main street Princes Street run down... It should be our flagship. I'm pissed off with our entire political structure. It's time we had an elected mayor.
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Yup, I'd go with that, when you standing? :wink:

I'd also make Queen St./Princes St one way and pedestrianise George St.I'd make HFC streets dead ends at the George Street ends and make those streets parking areas.I'd also consider closing down the waverley mall and making that a multistorey car park too.That mental idea of building shops under Princes St looking onto the gardens wasn't actually that mental, just very expensive.

Open up the south suburban line and tie it in with the trams from OT to Porty on the train line that runs freight only on it just now.
 
southfieldhibby said:
Yup, I'd go with that, when you standing? :wink:

I'd also make Queen St./Princes St one way and pedestrianise George St.I'd make HFC streets dead ends at the George Street ends and make those streets parking areas.I'd also consider closing down the waverley mall and making that a multistorey car park too.That mental idea of building shops under Princes St looking onto the gardens wasn't actually that mental, just very expensive.

Open up the south suburban line and tie it in with the trams from OT to Porty on the train line that runs freight only on it just now.
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I've often thought they should open up the old train tunnel from Scotland Yard up to Princes' Street, have it pedestrianised with stalls / cafes, have things like the farmers markets held there, all of which would be cool as fuck but also mean they could continue all year round in the pishy Scottish climate. Perhaps even a mini funicular to one side of the massive tunnel providing a traffic free link to & from canonmills and an excellent way for tourists to access the Bontanics.

What we should be doing is utilising the things we have instead of spunking cash on shit we probably don't need.

I'll run for Mayor.
 
Apart from Hibs and Leith our crappie council hate the car.

Residents go shopping in cars, tourists walk about from their hotel.

Get them from the airport to their hotel on a shiny tram - job done.

Mainwhile residents abandon the city centre.

You don't want tourists in Leith FFS. Folk might find out its history is as exciting as Edinburghs; that it's the home of golf, the Great Michael was probably built in Leith, or nearby. How Leith was at the centre of wars involving the Scots, English and French. Cromwell based armies here in Leith and it was the home, or visiting place of many a Royal.

So important was Leith and its port it once boasted 16 'embassies', 19 places of worship from 10 denominations, not to mention its 3 breweries!

If I had time I could go on.

Did I mention the fitbaw team? They're braw :-)
 
Jack said:
Apart from Hibs and Leith our crappie council hate the car.

Residents go shopping in cars, tourists walk about from their hotel.

Get them from the airport to their hotel on a shiny tram - job done.

Mainwhile residents abandon the city centre.

You don't want tourists in Leith FFS. Folk might find out its history is as exciting as Edinburghs; that it's the home of golf, the Great Michael was probably built in Leith, or nearby. How Leith was at the centre of wars involving the Scots, English and French. Cromwell based armies here in Leith and it was the home, or visiting place of many a Royal.

So important was Leith and its port it once boasted 16 'embassies', 19 places of worship from 10 denominations, not to mention its 3 breweries!

If I had time I could go on.

Did I mention the fitbaw team? They're braw :-)
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What does this mean Jacko?
 
I'd like to see the Kirkgate re-established in Leith as a main shopping and leisure street.
 
Kurt said:
I'd like to see the Kirkgate re-established in Leith as a main shopping and leisure street.
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Me too. Just need the hipsters to fully move in and it'll get sorted.

I've said on here before that could be a really nice part of Leith. Nae need for two chemists there, nae need for millions of bookies, gold pawn and general pointless tat shops. Open it up to independent coffee shops, bistros etc., which would get rid of all the jakies too. That spot gets the sun all day, would be top having outdoor tables etc. there.
 
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