Some of UKIP's 2015 Manifesto

[timberfox]

UKIPs Head of Policy Unit Tim Aker discusses our election platform as we continue to build our 2015 manifesto. There will be more detail released at our September Conference in Doncaster, tickets can be purchased here.

"Were beyond left-right, authoritarian-libertarianthose arguments are for university common rooms. Our people want to know how were going to make their lives easier, simpler and how they can just get on and feel more comfortable. Thats it. Its a blue-collar platform, but for people that want to aspire to achieve absolutely anything."

We want to take low earners out of income tax altogether. No tax on the minimum wage. We are for flatter, simpler and lower taxes.

We will also be making some cuts to deal with the deficit, Foreign aid is an obvious target. We are looking to shrink the Department for Energy & Climate Change. There are elements of BIS [Business, Innovation and Skills] that we are looking into.

There will be a Veterans Department to bring all of the different support organizations under one roof. Veterans care can be fully supported and we will be outlining at conference policies what the Veterans Department will be actively doing.

We are firmly against the bedroom tax.

New migrants to this country will not be eligible for any welfare benefits until they have been paying tax and national insurance for five years. There will be an offer for people who have paid into the pot and find themselves for a considerable amount of time unemployedhigher jobseekers allowance. We are prioritizing people who work and pay into the pot instead of people who have made a living out of having children so that they can get more benefits and a bigger house.

A condition of entry to Britain will be to have health insurance that the NHS recognizes. Show your passport, show your medical insurancesimple. Wed be more like Australia, If you come here to do a job, thats fantastic. But you must contribute more than you take out. You must show that you have been working in that profession for 12 of the last 24 months, that you can speak English and that you wont need tax credits. We have a plan to increase the strength of the border force, which needs to become a government priority.

There is a discussion going on about whether foreign governments have the right to buy up stakes in our national assets and national resources. Theres lots of concern that so much energy is controlled by foreign governments and without saying we are not open for business we want to redress that balance Its an ongoing debate. Youll see the conclusion of it in the manifesto.

We have got two elections to change this country, we have won one of them.

 

[Zitellis Heid]

"Some of..."

Care to post the rest?

If you won`t. I`ll take pleasure in highlighting them for you, my friend.

It`s really pretty shitty stuff, TBH.

Over to you. :coffee:

 

[Davy]

"Some of..."

Care to post the rest?

If you won`t. I`ll take pleasure in highlighting them for you, my friend.

It`s really pretty $#@!ty stuff, TBH.

Over to you. :coffee:

I think it is fair if you were to highlight the other stuff, because the stuff up there is pretty good vote winning stuff that takes on issues people are concerned about...but yes I am sure there is other stuff they wont highlight quite so easily, but no point in alluding to it if ya dont share it

 

[Dub]

I think it is fair if you were to highlight the other stuff, because the stuff up there is pretty good vote winning stuff that takes on issues people are concerned about...but yes I am sure there is other stuff they wont highlight quite so easily, but no point in alluding to it if ya dont share it

I can't argue with any of that. Much of what was posted in the OP looks like common sense to me so if there are other items in their manifesto that arent, perhaps someone could post them up.

 

[Smurf]

Too easy for some to just write off UKIP as a bunch of bigots and fruitjobs.

 

[timberfox]

"Some of..."

Care to post the rest?

If you won`t. I`ll take pleasure in highlighting them for you, my friend.

It`s really pretty shitty stuff, TBH.

Over to you. :coffee:

Would love to post more ZH but its not out in full until the September conference , along with all other parties manifesto's for next year, why is it shitty stuff ????? Why is it putting the people of this country first for a change is shitty stuff ?????? Why is going down the road of securing our borders shitty stuff ??? why is it that instead of handing millions to people around the world and giving it to your own first is shitty , i look forward to your reasoning .

 

[egb_hibs]

Looks good to me - let's hope iscotland soon produces a party with the ordinary scot similarly at heart. We will of course have the honeymoon experiment with archaic statism but that obviously can't last.

 

[gun ainm]

Looks good to me - let's hope iscotland soon produces a party with the ordinary scot similarly at heart. We will of course have the honeymoon experiment with archaic statism but that obviously can't last.

does it? really? cut foreign aid, reduce/abandon climate change policies (which are already woefully inadequate), no benefits for immigrants (including refugees?) for 5 years - these 3 alone are enough to make me thank the baby Jesus that UKIP are an non entity up here and pray to his ma that we get a Yes vote next month. wonder what the policies are on health, education and defence?

 

[timberfox]

does it? really? cut foreign aid, reduce/abandon climate change policies (which are already woefully inadequate), no benefits for immigrants (including refugees?) for 5 years - these 3 alone are enough to make me thank the baby Jesus that UKIP are an non entity up here and pray to his ma that we get a Yes vote next month. wonder what the policies are on health, education and defence?

Well the majority of British citizens are fed up seeing their hard earned going overseas while their own die needlessly here , Climate change , well i need go no further if you believe , and at least they have the balls to do something about the cesspit this country is becoming rather than the loony left who made the mess in the first place , and why should people that have not paid a penny into our welfare system be put first ?? they get housed before even our returning soldiers fucking disgrace , your kind are the reason this countries on its knees

And the people that thought UKIP were a non entity at the European election s soon got a wake up call , did they not , and hopefully yet again in 2015 and their policies on education ,health and defense cannot be any worse than you are happy to accept just now , i would reckon its an improvement on what we have at moment for the indigenous Brits.

 

[Dub]

Well the majority of British citizens are fed up seeing their hard earned going overseas while their own die needlessly here , Climate change , well i need go no further if you believe , and at least they have the balls to do something about the cesspit this country is becoming rather than the loony left who made the mess in the first place , and why should people that have not paid a penny into our welfare system be put first ?? they get housed before even our returning soldiers fucking disgrace , your kind are the reason this countries on its knees

And the people that thought UKIP were a non entity at the European election s soon got a wake up call , did they not , and hopefully yet again in 2015

I have said already that a lot of your OP was common sense but I still fervently hope that by the time 2015 comes along it wont matter to us what UKIP do in England because we will be an independent country by then.

 

[timberfox]

I have said already that a lot of your OP was common sense but I still fervently hope that by the time 2015 comes along it wont matter to us what UKIP do in England because we will be an independent country by then.

If and its a big if , it was a No vote , then most would rather have UKIP in power than the useless wet blouses we have at the moment then we maybe have common sense returned to politics., also a lot of people want an in/out vote on the EU , UKIP is giving that SNP are not

 

[Zitellis Heid]

Would love to post more ZH but its not out in full until the September conference , along with all other parties manifesto's for next year, why is it shitty stuff ????? Why is it putting the people of this country first for a change is shitty stuff ?????? Why is going down the road of securing our borders shitty stuff ??? why is it that instead of handing millions to people around the world and giving it to your own first is shitty , i look forward to your reasoning .

A bit too ripped tonight to address anything.

Will tomorrow do?

 

[timberfox]

A bit too ripped tonight to address anything.

Will tomorrow do?

No problem hope your having fun , speak tomorrow

 

[Dub]

If and its a big if , it was a No vote , then most would rather have UKIP in power than the useless wet blouses we have at the moment then we maybe have common sense returned to politics., also a lot of people want an in/out vote on the EU , UKIP is giving that SNP are not

The Torys are also giving that. It's well documented that an in/out vote is on the agenda so UKIP arent offering anything there that the present fukkwits at westminster arent giving. In addition, the consensus of opinion is that Scottish voters want to stay in Europe and if that is true then it doesnt matter who is allowing people to vote on that, much like every election result since 1950, our votes will count for the square root of bugger all.

 

[Kurt]

The Torys are also giving that. It's well documented that an in/out vote is on the agenda so UKIP arent offering anything there that the present fukkwits at westminster arent giving. In addition, the consensus of opinion is that Scottish voters want to stay in Europe and if that is true then it doesnt matter who is allowing people to vote on that, much like every election result since 1950, our votes will count for the square root of bugger all.

So keen on the EU that Scotland will be wanting to sign up to the Euro.

 

[Dub]

So keen on the EU that Scotland will be wanting to sign up to the Euro.

Another wee dig there Col.

Why the fukk would we need to sign up to the Euro? AS said quite categorically that we will not be signing up to the euro so what exactly is your point?

 

[timberfox]

The Torys are also giving that. It's well documented that an in/out vote is on the agenda so UKIP arent offering anything there that the present fukkwits at westminster arent giving. In addition, the consensus of opinion is that Scottish voters want to stay in Europe and if that is true then it doesnt matter who is allowing people to vote on that, much like every election result since 1950, our votes will count for the square root of bugger all.

lol you could be right , but who is going to believe cast iron Dave any longer ??? his dealing of IS at home and abroad shows you he should not be in charge of a Lego set never mind a country , i will trust UKIP before the Tory's any day , their showed to be a lot of people anti EU when it came to the Euro elections and i have yet to meet anyone ,other than business people that are making a fortune from cheap labour, that want to stay in the EU

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Another wee dig there Col.

Why the fukk would we need to sign up to the Euro? AS said quite categorically that we will not be signing up to the euro so what exactly is your point?

I agree he has changed his stance on the Euro , but as John Claude Juncker said when asked , " If Scotland want to join the EU , they must take the Euro " AS still wants to join so it only leaves one conclusion , he has known all along what plan B was , but he was too scared of backlash to say

 

[Dub]

lol you could be right , but who is going to believe cast iron Dave any longer ??? his dealing of IS at home and abroad shows you he should not be in charge of a Lego set never mind a country , i will trust UKIP before the Tory's any day , their showed to be a lot of people anti EU when it came to the Euro elections and i have yet to meet anyone ,other than business people that are making a fortune from cheap labour, that want to stay in the EU

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I agree he has changed his stance on the Euro , but as John Claude Juncker said when asked , " If Scotland want to join the EU , they must take the Euro " AS still wants to join so it only leaves one conclusion , he has known all along what plan B was , but he was too scared of backlash to say

Can you point me in the direction of a link to verify that please because as far as I am aware, we are using the pound and not the euro.

 

[timberfox]

Can you point me in the direction of a link to verify that please because as far as I am aware, we are using the pound and not the euro.

no problem mate UKIP MEP David Coburn questions Jean-Claude Juncker on EU membership for an independent Scotland - YouTube i agree that using the pound would be in everybody's interest but i fear other option is known by AS. save time go to 1.40, also i would be interested to see AS rebuttal to this statement from junker, as of yet nothing

 

[Zitellis Heid]

no problem mate UKIP MEP David Coburn questions Jean-Claude Juncker on EU membership for an independent Scotland - YouTube i agree that using the pound would be in everybody's interest but i fear other option is known by AS. save time go to 1.40, also i would be interested to see AS rebuttal to this statement from junker, as of yet nothing

You do realise that that was de-bunked as a lie months ago.

Of course you do. Anyhow, I`m about to go to sleep as I have other peoples shit to collect very early.

However, I`ll do it with a big heart.

 

[timberfox]

You do realise that that was de-bunked as a lie months ago.

Of course you do. Anyhow, I`m about to go to sleep as I have other peoples shit to collect very early.

However, I`ll do it with a big heart.

Good night mate , have a nice day tomorrow

 

[timberfox]

You do realise that that was de-bunked as a lie months ago.

Of course you do. Anyhow, I`m about to go to sleep as I have other peoples shit to collect very early.

However, I`ll do it with a big heart.

You do realise that that was de-bunked as a lie months ago

What part , as i will be putting a mail to David Cockburn to ask if this video is false

 

[southfieldhibby]

Anyone can say anything and be called bullahit by the oppo. He did say that, but I'm more interested in what the actual written law says, because that's what really matters.

Any country joining the eu has to undertake to at some point adopt the euro as it's currency.But prior to adopting the euro, it's essential that the country in question adopts ERM II... Until you join that it's impossible to adopt the euro. And it's entirely optional for any country to adopt that mechanism.So aye, commit to adopt the euro, but postpone, indefinitely, the adoption of ERM II. As a few eu countries have done and continue to do so.

That's the actual law, not what junker, barosso, darling or anyone else thinks really matters one ounce of shit

 

[Smurf]

Another wee dig there Col.

Why the fukk would we need to sign up to the Euro? AS said quite categorically that we will not be signing up to the euro so what exactly is your point?

What the fuck will it be to do with AS? Thought we were getting to elect our own new government? What if the EU said the condition of our membership application was the Euro?

 

[Two Headed Boy]

We give a minute amount in forgein aid, so to suggest this relates in any way to governments not being able to help those at home is utter shite. Billions are wasted on far less worthy causes than forgein aid.

UKIP are welts playing to peoples angers and frustrations with any old spurious, blame tactic, claptrap they think will win votes.

 

[gun ainm]

Well the majority of British citizens are fed up seeing their hard earned going overseas while their own die needlessly here , Climate change , well i need go no further if you believe , and at least they have the balls to do something about the cesspit this country is becoming rather than the loony left who made the mess in the first place , and why should people that have not paid a penny into our welfare system be put first ?? they get housed before even our returning soldiers $#@!ing disgrace , your kind are the reason this countries on its knees

And the people that thought UKIP were a non entity at the European election s soon got a wake up call , did they not , and hopefully yet again in 2015 and their policies on education ,health and defense cannot be any worse than you are happy to accept just now , i would reckon its an improvement on what we have at moment for the indigenous Brits.

define indigenous Brits? maybe the Vikings? or the Gaels? the Angels? the Jutes? you probably mean the Welsh :hmmm definitely not the Irish though (well second time round anyways)

I'll gladly stand shoulder to shoulder with the refugees, queers, Jews, Muslims, Bulgarians and blacks and all your other scape goats and I hope I do bring your Britain to its knees and yes education (for example) could be a lot worse than it is now - what was it Nige planned last time round? free market system with a fcked up voucher system?

 

[Dub]

What the fuck will it be to do with AS? Thought we were getting to elect our own new government? What if the EU said the condition of our membership application was the Euro?

It will have something to do with AS until he is no longer the top dog in government. You know that though so why ask the question? I'm still waiting on someone producing the evidence that the condition of our applicaiton would be that we would have to join the euro.

 

[Jack]

What the fuck will it be to do with AS? Thought we were getting to elect our own new government? What if the EU said the condition of our membership application was the Euro?

We ARE getting a new government, one which will be elected to represent only the people of Scotland.

It is likely to have considerable representation from the former Westminster MPs from Labour, Tory and possibly even the Libdems. Do you know what their plans are for a Scottish currency?

What if it, the EU, doesn't?

 

[Kurt]

This has been an interesting little bicker that makes UKIP seem not so out of the political norm.

Labour in threat to sue its own MP in row over 'backward Northerners': Veteran clashes with Ed's woman 'fixer' over call for female lists | Mail Online

 

[timberfox]

Anyone can say anything and be called bullahit by the oppo. He did say that, but I'm more interested in what the actual written law says, because that's what really matters.

Any country joining the eu has to undertake to at some point adopt the euro as it's currency.But prior to adopting the euro, it's essential that the country in question adopts ERM II... Until you join that it's impossible to adopt the euro. And it's entirely optional for any country to adopt that mechanism.So aye, commit to adopt the euro, but postpone, indefinitely, the adoption of ERM II. As a few eu countries have done and continue to do so.

That's the actual law, not what junker, barosso, darling or anyone else thinks really matters one ounce of shit

That's good to know Southfield , Thank you

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This has been an interesting little bicker that makes UKIP seem not so out of the political norm.

Labour in threat to sue its own MP in row over 'backward Northerners': Veteran clashes with Ed's woman 'fixer' over call for female lists | Mail Online

I would say they are becoming the Norm in politics , after all what choice do you have left , shudder !!

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We give a minute amount in forgein aid, so to suggest this relates in any way to governments not being able to help those at home is utter shite. Billions are wasted on far less worthy causes than forgein aid.

UKIP are welts playing to peoples angers and frustrations with any old spurious, blame tactic, claptrap they think will win votes.

UK gave 8.3 Billion in foreign aid in 2012 , money which would have been better spent here than going to mad despots worldwide , for instance India still gets millions in handouts whilst their govt fund a fucking space program , disgusting , all the while we have people here dying in corridors , and crumbling schools , and a justice system that would be more at home in Africa, yes your right billions gets wasted on other things , like the EU , IMF , ECB , our share to bail out other countries that the EU has broken , The majority of Brits want their hard earned tax to sort this country first ,then and only then we can maybe help other countries , but for fuck sake sort this shit hole out first , the sad thing is we have to borrow the money we give in aid , ecb etc. and get charged a lot more trying to help despots , the people that are supposed to get it never do , even the charities said we are not helping in Africa , because instead of trying to better themselves they just sit there with their hands out , Sorry but the country finally has a political party that put's British people and the UK first , they will win with a similar landslide as they did with Euro elections , with the exception of the Scottish voters maybe. and for that i'm glad

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define indigenous Brits? maybe the Vikings? or the Gaels? the Angels? the Jutes? you probably mean the Welsh :hmmm definitely not the Irish though (well second time round anyways)

I'll gladly stand shoulder to shoulder with the refugees, queers, Jews, Muslims, Bulgarians and blacks and all your other scape goats and I hope I do bring your Britain to its knees and yes education (for example) could be a lot worse than it is now - what was it Nige planned last time round? free market system with a fcked up voucher system?

A typical anti UKIP right wing response , who mentioned Jews , blacks etc , All they are asking for is the people that come deserve to be here and are an asset to the UK , What is wrong with that??? , rather than believing the tosh that the obviously scared other parties put about .your obviously left wing hand wringing leftie and more than glad to see this country die , your posts says so

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I believe that UKIP wish to scrap workers rights to paid holidays, maternity leave and sick pay.
What a shower of shites.

You can believe whatever crap you want , your choice , but would it not be a good idea instead of believing what crap the papers tell you, actually wait until Septembers release of their manifesto and then pass comment ??

The current and past Govt have certainly done nothing to make the people of the UK happy have they ?? Its obvious that one or two of UKIP's policies may not be to everyone's liking , but at least the majority should be , that is more than the current breed of cretins can say .

 

[southfieldhibby]

What the fuck will it be to do with AS? Thought we were getting to elect our own new government? What if the EU said the condition of our membership application was the Euro?

It will have something to do with AS until he is no longer the top dog in government. You know that though so why ask the question? I'm still waiting on someone producing the evidence that the condition of our applicaiton would be that we would have to join the euro.

Anyone can say anything and be called bullahit by the oppo. He did say that, but I'm more interested in what the actual written law says, because that's what really matters.

Any country joining the eu has to undertake to at some point adopt the euro as it's currency.But prior to adopting the euro, it's essential that the country in question adopts ERM II... Until you join that it's impossible to adopt the euro. And it's entirely optional for any country to adopt that mechanism.So aye, commit to adopt the euro, but postpone, indefinitely, the adoption of ERM II. As a few eu countries have done and continue to do so.

That's the actual law, not what junker, barosso, darling or anyone else thinks really matters one ounce of shit

It is a condition of becoming a Euro member to commit to joining the euro, but there's a wee catch, see above.

 

[Smurf]

It is a condition of becoming a Euro member to commit to joining the euro, but there's a wee catch, see above.

And membership of the EU is conditional on having a central bank.

 

[Dub]

And membership of the EU is conditional on having a central bank.

The Member States which were the first to adopt the euro in 1999 had to meet all these conditions. The same entry criteria apply to all countries which have since adopted the euro and all those that will in the future.
What are the convergence criteria?

The convergence criteria are formally defined as a set of macroeconomic indicators which measure:

1. Price stability, to show inflation is controlled;
2. Soundness and sustainability of public finances, through limits on government borrowing and national debt to avoid excessive deficit;
3. Exchange-rate stability, through participation in the Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM II) for at least two years without strong deviations from the ERM II central rate;
4. Long-term interest rates, to assess the durability of the convergence achieved by fulfilling the other criteria.

According to the Treaty, at least once every two years, or at the request of a Member State with a derogation, the Commission and the European Central Bank assess the progress made by the euro-area candidate countries and publish their conclusions in respective convergence reports.

I can't see anywhere where it insists that these monetaruy measures are conducted or facilitated through a central bank.

 

[Kurt]

The Member States which were the first to adopt the euro in 1999 had to meet all these conditions. The same entry criteria apply to all countries which have since adopted the euro and all those that will in the future.What are the convergence criteria?The convergence criteria are formally defined as a set of macroeconomic indicators which measure:

1. Price stability, to show inflation is controlled;
2. Soundness and sustainability of public finances, through limits on government borrowing and national debt to avoid excessive deficit;
3. Exchange-rate stability, through participation in the Exchange Rate Mechanism (ERM II) for at least two years without strong deviations from the ERM II central rate;
4. Long-term interest rates, to assess the durability of the convergence achieved by fulfilling the other criteria.

According to the Treaty, at least once every two years, or at the request of a Member State with a derogation, the Commission and the European Central Bank assess the progress made by the euro-area candidate countries and publish their conclusions in respective convergence reports.I can't see anywhere where it insists that these monetaruy measures are conducted or facilitated through a central bank.

I think thats right. The lack of a clear lender of last resort has been part of the Euros problems. ECB has reluctantly taken the role as the Germans didn't want it.Without formal or arrangements Scotland wouldn't have a lender of last resort so may find borrowing for investment expensive as this bloke says they might not stand behind the banks commercial lending. I guess RBS would be kept by the UK in the debt default scenario. Note the 100% tax suggestion. Genius! Who could doubt such wisdom!http://www.telegraph.co.uk/finance/economics/11054359/Scotland-should-not-take-on-UK-debt-unless-it-can-keep-the-pound.html

 

[southfieldhibby]

And membership of the EU is conditional on having a central bank.

That's not correct mate.

 

[Smurf]

That's not correct mate.

I read it somewhere. Happy to be corrected!

 

[Two Headed Boy]

UK gave 8.3 Billion in foreign aid in 2012 , money which would have been better spent here than going to mad despots worldwide , for instance India still gets millions in handouts whilst their govt fund a fucking space program , disgusting , all the while we have people here dying in corridors , and crumbling schools , and a justice system that would be more at home in Africa.

8.3 billion sounds a lot. It is less than 0.7% of the gross national income.

I agree that foreign aid could be distributed better but that is an argument for better policy not reducing the amount we give. People dying in corridors and crumbling schools can be helped without cutting foreign aid. Why does it have to be a helping one or the other argument with UKIP? We could and should do both! Aid is an easy target for UKIP as it drums up a lot of rhetoric and doesn't upset any of their cronies in the UK.

Your comment about the justice system and Africa is just baffling. With UKIPs views on bringing back the death penalty I'd imagine a third-world justice system is exactly the sort of thing that would appeal to them.

 

[gun ainm]

A typical anti UKIP right wing response , who mentioned Jews , blacks etc , All they are asking for is the people that come deserve to be here and are an asset to the UK , What is wrong with that??? , rather than believing the tosh that the obviously scared other parties put about .your obviously left wing hand wringing leftie and more than glad to see this country die , your posts says so

er several of your party members/donors have mentioned these groups and others in the past - your dear leader has recently expressed his deep unease about the idea of living next to Bulgarians for example. If Dawkins gets it tight for pondering the morality of aborting babies with downs, how should we view a UKIP candidate proposing compulsory abortion for such children? you allude to a racist approach by referring to policies promoting the rights of 'indigenous Brits' - which i note you chose not define i wonder how i'd be categorised in UKIP Britain? If you paid any attention to my other posts you'd know i am passionate about improving this country - UKIP offer the reverse - an erosion of the rights of refugees and people with disabilities, a privatisation of education and health and the loss of 2 million public sector jobs. oh and banning films and books in schools like al gore's the inconvenient truth? - sounds sh!te to me. BNP in slippers.

 

[timberfox]

8.3 billion sounds a lot. It is less than 0.7% of the gross national income.

I agree that foreign aid could be distributed better but that is an argument for better policy not reducing the amount we give. People dying in corridors and crumbling schools can be helped without cutting foreign aid. Why does it have to be a helping one or the other argument with UKIP? We could and should do both! Aid is an easy target for UKIP as it drums up a lot of rhetoric and doesn't upset any of their cronies in the UK.

Your comment about the justice system and Africa is just baffling. With UKIPs views on bringing back the death penalty I'd imagine a third-world justice system is exactly the sort of thing that would appeal to them.

Aid is not just an easy target as you say , its a fecking disgrace that we would rather look after people who i know i could not give two shits for, before looking after our own .
8.3 Billion sounds a lot because it is a lot , bring up the drawbridge and look after our own first , when that is done then look at where we can afford to help , but i for one and millions of others ,yes UKIP voters , want the people of this country looked after first .

Bring back the death penalty whats wrong with that ?? the days are gone now where Joe Bloggs gets hanged for a crime he did not commit , where there is 100% proof with the help of DNA where possible , i would rather they died than were let free to kill again , or rape again , or both ,as is happening now , no sympathy , remove them from society to make it a safer place

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er several of your party members/donors have mentioned these groups and others in the past - your dear leader has recently expressed his deep unease about the idea of living next to Bulgarians for example. If Dawkins gets it tight for pondering the morality of aborting babies with downs, how should we view a UKIP candidate proposing compulsory abortion for such children? you allude to a racist approach by referring to policies promoting the rights of 'indigenous Brits' - which i note you chose not define i wonder how i'd be categorised in UKIP Britain? If you paid any attention to my other posts you'd know i am passionate about improving this country - UKIP offer the reverse - an erosion of the rights of refugees and people with disabilities, a privatisation of education and health and the loss of 2 million public sector jobs. oh and banning films and books in schools like al gore's the inconvenient truth? - sounds sh!te to me. BNP in slippers.

First of Al Gore ,k bet you have all his books and video's ?? nutter , who said they were privatizing school and health another nut job that believes all he reads in the press, refugees have no rights not the ones we keep getting via France , they are no more refugees than i am ,I f they were true refugees they would stay in the first safe country they come to , but they dont and people like you are to blame, they come here because soft wet people like you give them all they want for fear of upsetting someone whilst wringing their hands together , again aid not going to the people who need it !BNP in slippers hahahahah don't make me laugh they have more black and Asian in their party than SNP , You really have to stop believing everything you read in the press.

And just because above is my thoughts ,they are mine alone and not the property of anyone else

Yeh Al Gore was he not the one that said the polar ice cap would be gone by 2010 and that sea levels would rise by ten meters or some crap like that , was he right hahahahah 533,000 more square miles of ocean covered with ice than in 2012
BBC reported in 2007 global warming would leave Arctic ice-free in summer by 2013

 

[Two Headed Boy]

Aid is not just an easy target as you say , its a fecking disgrace that we would rather look after people who i know i could not give two shits for, before looking after our own .

But this is my point - Why is it a case of one or or the other? Recession or not, we are still a rich country that can do both!

Bring back the death penalty whats wrong with that ?? the days are gone now where Joe Bloggs gets hanged for a crime he did not commit , where there is 100% proof with the help of DNA where possible , i would rather they died than were let free to kill again , or rape again , or both ,as is happening now , no sympathy , remove them from society to make it a safer place

Personally I think the death penalty is a barbaric practice but even if you disagree with me, it is also a colossal waste of money. It costs most US states around $2.5 million per prisoner to off death row inmates with 1-10 being executed a year depending on the state. How many extra beat polis would that pay for to keep the streets safer?

Again, I agree the justice system fails many people but invest into improving it instead of looking for the easy black and white answer all the time - which is all UKIP ever do.