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Worst quote yet“As a young teenager in proudly peaceable Canada during the romantic 1960s, I was a true believer in Bakunin's anarchism. I laughed off my parents' argument that if the government ever laid down its arms all hell would break loose.
Our competing predictions were put to the test at 8:00 a.m. on October 7, 1969, when the Montreal police went on strike. By 11:20 am, the first bank was robbed. By noon, most of the downtown stores were closed because of looting. Within a few more hours, taxi drivers burned down the garage of a limousine service that competed with them for airport customers, a rooftop sniper killed a provincial police officer, rioters broke into several hotels and restaurants, and a doctor slew a burglar in his suburban home.
By the end of the day, six banks had been robbed, a hundred shops had been looted, twelve fires had been set, forty carloads of storefront glass had been broken, and three million dollars in property damage had been inflicted, before city authorities had to call in the army and, of course, the Mounties to restore order. This decisive empirical test left my politics in tatters (and offered a foretaste of life as a scientist)."
- Stephen Pinker
Weird response. Care to elaborate?Worst quote yet
Wish Pinker was so reflective on the legacy of the enlightenment and liberalism...Canadian psychologists eh?
Which bit? It's a bit wordy for a truly memorable quote? What I know of Pinker other than his anecdote posted above is he's a classical liberal whos surprisingly unreflective or tight lipped about it's failures and the impacts its adherents have had historically.Weird response. Care to elaborate?
I’d say any “failures” the enlightenment and liberalism have had pale into utter insignificance when measured against their broad legacy.Which bit? It's a bit wordy for a truly memorable quote? What I know of Pinker other than his anecdote posted above is he's a classical liberal whos surprisingly unreflective or tight lipped about it's failures and the impacts its adherents have had historically.
It’s quotes R, not aphorismsWhich bit? It's a bit wordy for a truly memorable quote? What I know of Pinker other than his anecdote posted above is he's a classical liberal whos surprisingly unreflective or tight lipped about it's failures and the impacts its adherents have had historically.
“It’s too early to say” - Zhou EnlaiI’d say any “failures” the enlightenment and liberalism have had pale into utter insignificance when measured against their broad legacy.
Quite frankly, I’d consider anyone who claimed otherwise to be an ignorant moron.
NiceI’d say any “failures” the enlightenment and liberalism have had pale into utter insignificance when measured against their broad legacy.
Quite frankly, I’d consider anyone who claimed otherwise to be an ignorant moron.
Good manAnyway, thread fork, so I’ll draw the line there.
Lol, reading that back, I didn’t mean that to be you were a moron! Would also agree that would be an interesting thread!Niceit's a very much mixed bag as far as I'm concerned partly that's probably a geographic perspective ( rural Highlands vs Edinburgh) but at least as an ignorant Moran I think it's debatable & maybe a useful other thread on enlightenment/classical liberalism so as not to hijack here? Be interested in your view and consideration
Many of us went to our doom thanks to that kind of view !"Get yourselves into computers, that's where the future is"
My Maths Teacher said to the class in 1983.
Many of us went to our doom thanks to that kind of view !
Hey @egb_hibs saw this and thought of you.Many of us went to our doom thanks to that kind of view !

Were you at Craigmount?My teacher, a good Hibby called Martin O’Neil said Get your self a trade sun, buy your stamp every week and you will get a pension to live on at 65. Thanks to the Tory pr@s it is now 66 !
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