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Robert Conquest: three laws of politics

  1. Everyone is conservative about what he knows best.
  2. Any organization not explicitly right-wing sooner or later becomes left-wing.
  3. The simplest way to explain the behaviour of any bureaucratic organization is to assume that it is controlled by a cabal of its enemies.
 
"Either a struggle for the transformation of society, or an inevitable capitulation to the interests of Big Business".- Ted Grant

BIG G
 
"If I had my way, I would build a lethal chamber as big as the Crystal Palace, with a military band playing softly, and a Cinematograph working brightly; then I’d go out in the back streets and main streets and bring them in, all the sick, the halt, and the maimed; I would lead them gently, and they would smile me a weary thanks; and the band would softly bubble out the ‘Hallelujah Chorus’. "

DH Lawrence
 
"One in five care workers are foreign nationals. Now, I don’t know about you, but I don’t particularly want to wipe someone’s bum."

Zach Polanski makes his case for mass migration
 
Doc Shrink said:
"Whenever I watch TV and see those poor starving kids all over the world, I can’t help but cry. I mean, I’d love to be skinny like that, but not with all those flies and death and stuff."

Mariah Carey
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Ah brilliant. Nowt like a pop star to come out with some pure classics.
 
"The whole implication was to save these people in Ethiopia, but who were they asking to save them? Some 13-year-old girl in Wigan! People like Thatcher and the royals could solve the Ethiopian problem within ten seconds. But Band Aid shied away from saying that — for heaven's sake, it was almost directly aimed at unemployed people."

Morrissey
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
"The whole implication was to save these people in Ethiopia, but who were they asking to save them? Some 13-year-old girl in Wigan! People like Thatcher and the royals could solve the Ethiopian problem within ten seconds. But Band Aid shied away from saying that — for heaven's sake, it was almost directly aimed at unemployed people."

Morrissey
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Heaven forefend we do something without mammy state doing it for us
 
egb_hibs said:
Not especially sincere on that one was she!
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You read much Luxemburg? What insincerity are you alluding to? I'd say that sentiment was at her very core, here's a couple more of hers.

"Freedom only for the supporters of the government, only for the members of a party—however numerous they may be—is not freedom. Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters."

"Without general elections, without unrestricted freedom of press and assembly, without a free struggle of opinion, life dies out in every public institution, becomes a mere semblance of life, in which only the bureaucracy remains as the active element."
 
egb_hibs said:
"If I had my way, I would build a lethal chamber as big as the Crystal Palace, with a military band playing softly, and a Cinematograph working brightly; then I’d go out in the back streets and main streets and bring them in, all the sick, the halt, and the maimed; I would lead them gently, and they would smile me a weary thanks; and the band would softly bubble out the ‘Hallelujah Chorus’. "

DH Lawrence
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Grim here's another one

"With savages, the weak in body or mind are soon eliminated. We civilized men, on the other hand, do our utmost to check the process of elimination. We build asylums for the imbecile, the maimed, and the sick; we institute poor-laws; and our medical men exert their utmost skill to save every one to the last moment. It is surprising how soon a want of care, or care wrongly directed, leads to the degeneration of a domestic race".

Charles Darwin
 
gun ainm said:
You read much Luxemburg? What insincerity are you alluding to? I'd say that sentiment was at her very core, here's a couple more of hers.

"Freedom only for the supporters of the government, only for the members of a party—however numerous they may be—is not freedom. Freedom is always the freedom of dissenters."

"Without general elections, without unrestricted freedom of press and assembly, without a free struggle of opinion, life dies out in every public institution, becomes a mere semblance of life, in which only the bureaucracy remains as the active element."
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She was a communist dude. This is basically a complaint that the dominant commies crushed the other commies.

No room in her worldview for individual freedoms, free enterprise, rejection of the revolution. And she supported the use of force against the bourgeois.

Communism is incompatible with freedom. You have to pick your priorities comrade. Equality in slavery (party aside natch) or freedom and what comes with it
 
You lot have to drag your sordid political feeding frenzies into everything, don't you?

I can't stop you posting what you want but this was not meant as a discussion thread, as prevs stated.

Pithy, one-line insights that you can remember and use in convos, yes. And who said them. That's it.

But feel free to act like wronged adolescents who must have the last word if you really can't muster up some self-discipline here!
 
egb_hibs said:
She was a communist dude. This is basically a complaint that the dominant commies crushed the other commies.

No room in her worldview for individual freedoms, free enterprise, rejection of the revolution. And she supported the use of force against the bourgeois.

Communism is incompatible with freedom. You have to pick your priorities comrade. Equality in slavery (party aside natch) or freedom and what comes with it
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So that's a no then I assume, unlike you to pronounce definitively without thinking, I refer you to post 283 😅

these quotes are in criticism of Bolshevism
 
"good day to bury bad news"

Jo Moore, the special adviser who sent an email on September 11 suggesting it was a "good day to bury bad news" has today apologised, saying she was sorry for the "huge events" caused by her message.
 
HaarlemShuffler said:
You lot have to drag your sordid political feeding frenzies into everything, don't you?

I can't stop you posting what you want but this was not meant as a discussion thread, as prevs stated.

Pithy, one-line insights that you can remember and use in convos, yes. And who said them. That's it.

But feel free to act like wronged adolescents who must have the last word if you really can't muster up some self-discipline here!
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Apologies Haarlem.
 
It is difficult to get a man to understand something, when his salary depends on his not understanding it.

Upton Sinclair
 
HaarlemShuffler said:
You lot have to drag your sordid political feeding frenzies into everything, don't you?

I can't stop you posting what you want but this was not meant as a discussion thread, as prevs stated.

Pithy, one-line insights that you can remember and use in convos, yes. And who said them. That's it.

But feel free to act like wronged adolescents who must have the last word if you really can't muster up some self-discipline here!
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I will use my freedom to ponder in silence then. Its about all we have left anyway.
 
The object of life is not to be on the side of the majority, but to escape finding oneself in the ranks of the insane.

Marcus Aurelius
 
"We don’t have the same freedom of speech laws that they have in the United States, and the reason for that is that we want to hold together a multicultural community."

Chris Minns, Premier of New South Wales
 
The assumption that we are infallible can we justify the suppression of opinions we think false. Ages are as fallible as individuals, every age having held many opinions which subsequent ages have deemed not only false but absurd.

John Stuart Mill, On Liberty
 
"Christianity is the worst of the regressions that mankind can ever have undergone, and it's the Jew who, thanks to this diabolic invention, has thrown him back fifteen centuries."

A Hitler
 
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