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Just A Radge
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2 day strike next thurs and fri
postal strike
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sKipper
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Could just about finish Royal Mail off
You're not joking !
Turkeys voting for Christmas. Unf@ckingbelievable ! :sad
Green Sleeves
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Support the posties 100 per cent. Royal Mail have deliberately provoked this strike. The internal management document leaked today proves this is all about breaking the union not about running a decent postal service. Management are even rejecting ACAS intervention.
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Have the unions saved any industry in Scotland in the last 30 years? :hmmm
The unions may have a place at the table on internal employment matters. Tea breaks, bog roll and the likes. But their days of affecting the balance of power on a national level has wimpered out.
Let's face it. If your employer wants to implement a fundamental change to your contract, they just give you 90 days notice.
If you don't like it, get another job. Simples.
The unions may have a place at the table on internal employment matters. Tea breaks, bog roll and the likes. But their days of affecting the balance of power on a national level has wimpered out.
Let's face it. If your employer wants to implement a fundamental change to your contract, they just give you 90 days notice.
If you don't like it, get another job. Simples.
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it also sounds like gaylord mandelson has a serious bee in his bonnet over the whole scenario after his failed attempts of privatisatoin and mass oppisition from his own labour party peers,i heard rumours a few months back that mandy had ordered royal mail managment under no circumstance to negotiate with the union.as a royal mail employee im not exactly over the moon about being on strike and do think that this strategy by the union is so dated in this day and age but at the end of the day the fealings are running high.
:hmmmmmm bored dutch housewifes delivering your mail. like the idea that
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greensalamander
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sKipper
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No disrespect but that post is absolute tripe.:coffee:
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:doh
Kurt
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Could just about finish Royal Mail off
Doubt it. They still have by far the best infrastructure.
Anyway, its snail mail for a reason.
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Many more companies are using couriers though are they not and there must be a lot fewer letter sent nowadays
Kurt
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I do quite a bit of shopping on the internet. Couriers are OK if someone is in all day but if you're a working family they are useless. Better with the Royal Mail. Get a card, pick it up up the road on Saturday morning. Most couriers are utterly useless in my experience.
You're right about letters. Its only official stuff like bank statements and the usual spam.
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Aye that's a fair point re couriers , we just get them sent to my wifes work
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LRB Roy Mayall: Diary
Read this link.. It also applies to Edinburgh and any part of Britain nowadays
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Oh well wrong again :doh
Kurt
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That works. In big places you have to worry about stuff going missing.
Royal Mail could clean up on internet business, I think. Mind you the missus sells stuff as well and says the couriers are better for picking up things especially larger items.
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Far easier than taking to the post office , more so down your way i imagine
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I worked for the Royal Mail for a short time in 97, I was a seasonal worker & was paid peanuts for a job which was quite frankly shit at the best of times. If you werent a permanent worker you were generally treated like scum by the permanent workers, I was given the crappiest walks & never done the same walk two days running. Since I was a postie, the two deliveries are now down to one a day, and the amount of extra items (junk mail) a postie has to deliver have kept rising year after year, Its also apparent that the pay & conditions have not improved much since I was there, My experiences apart, Im sure there are many good posties out there, My postie for instance cant be faulted & for that I beleive that they do deserve proper consideration regards their pay & conditions in this current dispute. :coffee::coffee:
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vasco de gama
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Interesting link Mick.
I already knew about the Royal Mail posties having to deliver the non-royal mail mail but like many wrongly assumed they now deliver a lot less cos of email and that many folk no longer get bills or bank statements posted, but now I think about it we get something delivered everyday even if most of it is junk. I really find it shocking that they are still getting paid the same rate for this as they were 10 years ago but unfortunately that's the forces of a free market in full operation.
TBH I think you guys are screwed, the blackhole of the pension scheme really is a nightmare and cos we live in a society where strikes of this nature are usually ineffectual you are facing down the barrel of a gun. Either you accept this cr@p or the 30,000 temps will become 20,000 new permanent employees.
Weststandwanabe
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Could just about finish Royal Mail off
Hopefully with regard to their protected monopoly !
So sensible, have you thought about politics ?
Just not going to waste a lot of time talking about nothing !
Mandelson, could not care about much, definitely not the mail service !
If you are not keen on striking, whay are you on strike ?
Dutch is good, works wonders over there.
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Weststandwanabe
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Double tripe
The best infrastructure is ibviouslt the internet !
It does not have a Union pulling strings, does what it is told, and delivers mail anywhere in the worl, in seconds at a fraction of the cost of so call "First Class Post"
I do, always get a timed delivery and great value for money !
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sKipper
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The monoploy has already gone mate. That is the major problem.
Intorducing competition for a public service like a universal postal delivery was the wrong decision.
Cherry picking by other delivery firms has reduced profits which subsidised deliveries to the outer isles etc
Weststandwanabe
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Introducing competition is fine. But it should have to be competition which provides the same service and coverage. Because if it isn't, then it isn't actually competition, it's picking off the most profitable bits and leaving the service which has statutory requirements to die.
The question is, do we want a universal postage service. Because if the Royal Mail dies, then you're going to have to end up shopping around to try and find someone who delivers to Lerwick. Which might not be too deadly if you're in Edinburgh, bit more of a problem if you don't live in a decent sized city though...
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Sometimes people on here play GOD.. like a game.. well i can assure a lot of people it aint a game, its my livelyhood at stake, mortgage, future... ect,ect. Royal Mail management/directors has destroyed this job and still are.. NOT the union. The Union is trying to fight for MY rights and future.. The goverment are just as bad.. When so called open competion was introduced by the post regulator (goverment) it then destroyed Royal Mail.. it aint a level playing field.. cherry picking and all that.. Strikes are a last resort remember BUT when Royal Mail refuse to listen to its work force in many meetings and team briefs inside the job (WE HAVE HAD COUNTLESS TALKS AND DISCUSSIONS AT WORK) but they do nothing about our ideas and worrys for the job.. Progress and modernisation! Its went backwards in my 28 years in the job.
LRB Roy Mayall: Diary
LRB Roy Mayall: Diary
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you ask why iam striking if iam not keen on doing so,well i dont think anyone wants to strike weststand my soul purpose in life at the moment is to feed and house my family so losing money is not great.i have worked for tis company for 17 years and have seen numerous strikes over the years and have never scabbed or would do so now,just because i say iam not keen on the strikes doesnt mean iam not in support of them and up for the fight to look after my job and countless others,yes these are tough times but sometimes a show of solidarity can go a long way
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Like yourself Woodster i too have never scabbed any strike in my 28 years.. Doesnt make me a tough guy or anything. Does not make me a bad person but i too believe there is tough times ahead and a show of support goes a long way... We are not evil people.. I lose money BUT that is my choice.. It is happening in all SORT of jobs recently, BINMEN ,FIREMEN and many more.. Wonder why?LRB Roy Mayall: Diary
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LRB Roy Mayall: Diary
I wonder if any people in other jobs might lose jobs due to this strike ? Obviously not your problem but it makes you wonder
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Dont think so Forza.. Any Post Industrial Action Seems to bring out the cry "take busines elsewhere". Doesnt make it right but it inflames me even more when the Banks ,Building Societys seem to have got intervention and help from this goverment.. meanwhile could not give a toss about THE GREAT British Post Office.. MANDELSON IS JUST THE SAME AS CROZIER AND LEIGHTON .. how can someone get 6 MILLION in wages and BONUSES in a so called ailing company that needs modernised in just 2 years. What happened to the money when everyone was happy and Royal Mail was making millions in profits year after year.It certainly did not go in my pocket. There is also a massive threat to thousands of Postman on losing their jobs through THE Royal Mails Modernisation plans.. Does make you wonder... grandpa
Weststandwanabe
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Listen I do understand, and appreciate, that feeding your family is the number one priority and I do hope that this strike does not cause you any difficulties.
The first problem is the word scabbed -
I presume you are old enough to remember the Miner's futile strike and all the scabbing.
What happened there is that eventually the Unions were broken and the industry all but destroyed.
What the mail utility - find it gard to describe as a service when there is no service - is facing today is the same scenario in my opinion.
The Company - owned by taxpayers - is uncompetative in a shrinking market place and facing stiff competition.
If in 1985 you asked miners who had 17 years service if on reflection they would rather have not gone on strike and saved their jobs I wonder how many would have said yes.
Have you seen how many -scabbs you would call them - people have applied for the temporary jobs ? - they are probably looking to feed their families.
Be wary !
You may think that this strike afffects nobody else in the pocket but yourselves, I am afraid it does affect all of us, myself included, thanks to your strike action.
I think it is called blackmail - excuse the pun.
The difference is I have no power to change anything wherre as you have.
The glory seeking Union "leaders" should think about their members' welfare first rather than their own egos.
I hope that there is a resolution today and that you are not affected but I would say that a paid job - albeit with no increase- is better than job seeker's allowance, just as the ex miners.
All my best wishes for you and your family and all your colleagues
exjarl
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Weststandwanabe
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ONLY7-0
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for those of you not in the post office.i use to be a delivery post man in eh1.my delivery was lawnmarket/johnston terr/bank st/ nth bank st/castlehill/ramsey garden.all these streets were 2 deliverys.i was at russell road last week and had a look at my old walk.aprt from the above streets the poor guy also has victoria st/terr and both sides of the high st down as far as st marys st.so if you go to the worlds end pub and look up towards the castle that is the guys delivery.this is his delivery because it has been implemented without an agreement and he has no choise as the union could not dicuss his case due to there being no talks.on another subject the same office has had 8 different bosses due to bosses going off with stress or just going sick.i was talking to a delivery office boss who told me that he has to make another 600 hours savings in his office that has had deliverys from 42 walks down to33 and now has to try and cut down even more and i will quote him....I CANT GET THE MAIL OUT NOW SO WHAT CHANCE HAVE I GOT.IF YOU TELL THEM TO TELL THERE BOSSES THAT.... THE ANSWERS IS....THATS NOT AN OPTION......RANT NOT OVER......SEE.YOU ON THE PICKET LINE MICK/WOODSTERphew
Weststandwanabe
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Alert repy from a twat !
Letters, postcards and bills etc will soon be delivered solely electronicially and the quicker the better IMO
My postcard from Blackpool will never arrrive by courier because \i will never return to Blackpool and I would not like to admit to mnay people that I had been there
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The internet has been going for a couple of decades. In the last 10 years usage of it has became much more widespread. Yet mail deliveries (including the extra shit the posties have to deliver) have increased in that time span.
So what's the evidence that everything is going to be delivered electronically?
ps People are aware of couriers etc. Yet the Royal Mail in this area of competition still deliver over 99% of all letters in the UK.
Weststandwanabe
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I have no evidence just a feeling.
That said we are now sending and receiving more than 50% of correspondence via the internet and that equates to thousand of letters a year.
If you extrpolaate that over the population - made worse by this strike - I think I may be correct.
There is also the cost and delivery issues.
No envelope, no stationery and no stamp and it is delivered in seconds !
BTW I am told there is a postman delivery mail in Musselburgh, hats off to him.