Poppies

Bangkokhibby

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Can tv presenters and guests refuse to wear them? I think maybe Jon Snow did. (Good on you John)
Is there anything more insincere than this yearly forced nonsense? Love a look in the bins near the exit doors of the tv studios.

And please....for the offended, where did I say poppies shouldn't be worn?
 
If any Hibbees want to, they do a fantastic tour of the Poppy Factoy, a small Museum with history from WW 1 onwards It’s fully accessible and has a big car park
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I stopped wearing the poppy years ago - once the symbolism had been hijacked by the Huns, gunts, far right performative racist *&*^ I decided I wanted nothing to do with them.
 
I stopped wearing the poppy years ago - once the symbolism had been hijacked by the Huns, gunts, far right performative racist *&*^ I decided I wanted nothing to do with them.
That pissed me off too.
The Gunts have a wee statue thing on the bit between the stands that I thought was particularly pathetic, like it was only folk supporting Gunts that gave their lives?
I got over it though.
I’m neither for or against Poppies, although I still smirk at the Poppy Thieves taking a holier than thou stance.
I’ve got a poppy badge I bought a few years ago, but it seems like a cop out not buying one every year.
I don’t like wars of any kind.
That includes poppy wars.
 
Since I retired in 2012 I’ve donated monthly to Poppyscotland I used to provided heritage and historical tours for the Blind ex servicemen from Linburn and Erskine House Homes. Until my own deterioration in health I continued and never missed services at St.Giles, East Princes Street and the High Street. It was my involvement with Poppyscotland that I experienced the holistic care to all the services given by The Royal British Legion and their fund raising isn’t just based on one week in November.
 
Idle observation that in the last few months the BBC have started photoshopping wee pride pins off people who appear on TV (eg Strictly, University Challenge) cos they're political symbols. Mandatory poppies for everyone from the start of October though.

I think the RBL as an organisation are far far more benign than the actual culture around poppies/remembrance. I occasionally remember to chuck a fiver at the former round this time of year, but I've stopped wearing poppies cos of the latter
 
Hard to detach the poppy from those who have hijacked it - including the British legion/Poppy Appeal who have used it to gather sympathy for other wars, namely Falklands Iraq etc. Its a tough one for me as my family fought in the WW2 as part of the Commonwealth (Force K6 + others). I left a crescent in Princes Street last week in their memory but deffo a sticky one in our family. https://southasianheritage.org.uk/r...st-national-british-indian-army-bia-memorial/
 
Hard to detach the poppy from those who have hijacked it - including the British legion/Poppy Appeal who have used it to gather sympathy for other wars, namely Falklands Iraq etc. Its a tough one for me as my family fought in the WW2 as part of the Commonwealth (Force K6 + others). I left a crescent in Princes Street last week in their memory but deffo a sticky one in our family. Scotland's First National British Indian Army (BIA) Memorial - South Asian Heritage Trust
Why the Falklands? I can see your point wih Iraq
 
I don't think enlisted (or conscripted) soldiers and other armed services get to pick which war they die in.
I've worn a poppy for the last 10 years.
Never did before then.
When my mum died , on clearing her home i found a medal and a 'Death' penny.
These belonged to my grandmothers brother who died of wounds inflicted in Flanders and France , June 1918.
I donated the medal and penny to the Gordon Highlanders museum in Aberdeen.
He had two brothers in law who survived the conflict.
I think these men deserve to be remembered.
They were conscripts.
Ultimate sacrifice.
 
I think the wearing of the poppy is entirely up to the individual.

I wear one as my dad fought in WW2 and suffered a lifetime war wound.

I don't think anyone should be berated for not wearing one.

I see it as the same as the 'taking the knee' thing.

Something I would never do personally.
 
Haven't worn one in about 40 years and considering you get people like Wes Streeting bigging up another war whilst wearing one I can't help but think 'what a bunch of hypocrits'.
 
I think the wearing of the poppy is entirely up to the individual.

I wear one as my dad fought in WW2 and suffered a lifetime war wound.

I don't think anyone should be berated for not wearing one.

I see it as the same as the 'taking the knee' thing.

Something I would never do personally.
So you disagree with poppy’s on football shirts then? As that’s not a choice.
 
But like the knee, the general consensus is players wear the poppy. I suspect many players wouldn’t be happy with it but don’t have the ability to refuse like McClean.

I agree it should be a choice but that’s not how the FA’s do it.
 
But like the knee, the general consensus is players wear the poppy. I suspect many players wouldn’t be happy with it but don’t have the ability to refuse like McClean.

I agree it should be a choice but that’s not how the FA’s do it.
But if McClean was allowed to do so then surely other players could do the same.

Maybe they want to wear the poppy.

Players can take the knee anytime they feel like it.

It's up to them.

Just the same as if they want to not take the knee.
 
But like the knee, the general consensus is players wear the poppy. I suspect many players wouldn’t be happy with it but don’t have the ability to refuse like McClean.

I agree it should be a choice but that’s not how the FA’s do it.
Just out of interest here no looking for a squabble but do you think that remembering our military and the sacrifices they made are the same as remembering an American criminal?
 
But if McClean was allowed to do so then surely other players could do the same.

Maybe they want to wear the poppy.

Players can take the knee anytime they feel like it.

It's up to them.

Just the same as if they want to not take the knee.

The shite McClean took for that stance was and is eyewatering
 
Just out of interest here no looking for a squabble but do you think that remembering our military and the sacrifices they made are the same as remembering an American criminal?
its awrite, squabble's can be fun. Of course I know you are insinuating George Floyd was a criminal. So lets break it down.

It is possible to acknowledge that George Floyd had a criminal record while also recognising why his death became a significant public issue. The reason many people remember George Floyd is not because they view him as a hero or because they condone his past actions, but because the circumstances of his death raised wider questions about policing, use of force, accountability, and racial inequality. For many, the focus is on what his death represented and the conversation it sparked, rather than on celebrating him as an individual. The knee was about this.

Equally, remembering military personnel serves a different purpose. Remembrance is about honouring those who served and sacrificed in the great wars. The focus is on service, duty, and sacrifice against an evil fascist ideology.

Therefore, while both involve remembrance, they are generally remembering different things. One is primarily about honouring service and sacrifice; the other is about recognising an event that highlighted broader social issues and prompted calls for change. People may agree or disagree with either form of remembrance, but they are not necessarily directly comparable.
 
Cheers for the reply.

But I'm no sure why people in the UK went down on one knee for geezer killed over there.

I seem to remember the BLM lassie in London got shot in the head (I think it was) and yet I've yet to see folk go down on one knee for her.

I'm sure I read somewhere that more white people were killed by the bizzies in America yet no one takes the knee.

As I said if someone doesn't wear a poppy then that's their choice.