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Smurf said:
Tax evader like that lot in Dubai....
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I still need to drive to a petrol station. The closest to me is still 4 miles away and is £138.9 so it’s more a case of not getting ripped off. But you know that
 
Beagle said:
Oh I don’t get the impression they want to come back voluntarily. It’s more a ‘let’s save everyone’ shout from the newspapers. Although I do hope the likes of Richard Tice and his fellow shithouses are losing sleep listening for the drone bombs wondering if one is going to end it all.
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More than 100,000 Britons register for help in Middle East!
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More than 100,000 Britons register for help in Middle East

Foreign Office sources say no evacuation was imminent but the government is preparing for potential scenarios.
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Beagle said:
I use the Petrol Prices app. £125.9 is cheapest that’s ‘close’ to me……..in Newmains. 6 miles away
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Filled up on Saturday, £1.24.9 at Costco. Go around the corner and Asda and Sainsbury's are 6p a litre dearer.
 
Beagle said:
I still need to drive to a petrol station. The closest to me is still 4 miles away and is £138.9 so it’s more a case of not getting ripped off. But you know that
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You're a right cheery sod.
 
hibbybilly said:
Trump no happy wi Starmer.
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No but he's the poodle of Trump according to some on here who ridiculously hope for a UK that tells Uncle Sam to GTF as we join forces with China, Iran, North Korea and Iran. I mean pro the workers and that. And fuck the imperialism. And from the river to the sea.... Oh and pro Trans blah blah blah...
 
Smurf said:
No but he's the poodle of Trump according to some on here who ridiculously hope for a UK that tells Uncle Sam to GTF as we join forces with China, Iran, North Korea and Iran. I mean pro the workers and that. And fuck the imperialism. And from the river to the sea.... Oh and pro Trans blah blah blah...
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Tbh with Iran firing on RAF bases in Cyprus it's made it much more straightforward for him?
 
Iran pretty successfully making the war a global issue.
The Donald maybe bitten off more than he can chew.

Energy facilities all over Middle East now being targeted.
Crisis coming........
 
Doc Shrink said:
Iran pretty successfully making the war a global issue.
The Donald maybe bitten off more than he can chew.

Energy facilities all over Middle East now being targeted.
Crisis coming......
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Yep. Iran seem to be doing the equivalent of going down swinging, hitting non legitimate targets in neighboring gulf states and pissing off as many folk as possible
 
On Starmer again, this is just what he needs with the Chagos farrago. He really is lucky Eddie.
 
Hibee Kev said:
Yep. Iran seem to be doing the equivalent of going down swinging, hitting non legitimate targets in neighboring gulf states and pissing off as many folk as possible
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Which is exactly why the rest of the region are behind Israel and the US when it comes to Iran. It may not be what the likes of Zack will put to the fore but they are a major threat to the Sunni countries who live in fear of them going radge bongo once nuclear equipped

Without Israel /America as guarantors against that we would see a nuclear arms race in the region, which would be less than desirable.
 
hibbybilly said:
Everything ok with you out there Kev?
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Aye mate safe and sound. Just waiting on airspace re-opening at some point then I will be heading home. Been setting up stuff so I can work remotely from Edinburgh for an extended period! Company I work for seem cool with that. Hoping for some kind of ceasefire soon so I can get the hell out of dodge 🙏
 
Hibee Kev said:
Aye mate safe and sound. Just waiting on airspace re-opening at some point then I will be heading home. Been setting up stuff so I can work remotely from Edinburgh for an extended period! Company I work for seem cool with that. Hoping for some kind of ceasefire soon so I can get the hell out of dodge 🙏
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Great stuff mate.
 
Smurf said:
No but he's the poodle of Trump according to some on here who ridiculously hope for a UK that tells Uncle Sam to GTF as we join forces with China, Iran, North Korea and Iran. I mean pro the workers and that. And fuck the imperialism. And from the river to the sea.... Oh and pro Trans blah blah blah...
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I initially thought that was @Sancho Panza quoting from the splendid Viz again!

BIG G
 
egb_hibs said:
Not sure it's an either / or

Its clearly about regime change but I think they want to change the regime because they don't want an apocalyptic cult that believes destroying Israel and others with summon their messiah, from getting nuclear weapons. And because they are behind most of the carnage in the middle East and a fair bit beyond. And because they are now massacring freedom campaigners by the bucket load.
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not wanting that and pressing go on a pre-emptive strike because its imminent are very different things - i don't believe that there are nuclear tipped icbms pointing out of Iran at US, Europe or Israel (as some more breathless hawks in 'murica have claimed for example) did the US/Israel not "completely and totally obliterate" Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities last summer?
 
gun ainm said:
not wanting that and pressing go on a pre-emptive strike because its imminent are very different things - i don't believe that there are nuclear tipped icbms pointing out of Iran at US, Europe or Israel (as some more breathless hawks in 'murica have claimed for example) did the US/Israel not "completely and totally obliterate" Iran's key nuclear enrichment facilities last summer?
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I imagine they've been waiting on a pretext and the massacres gave them one (as well as being an end in themself). The thinking is probably that you don't leave it till the last moment on these things. And that's as well as Iran being a permanent obstacle to regional peace, and plotting to assassinate Donny.

This may turn out to be another middle Eastern disaster, indeed it's likely. But Iran's regime are the most dangerous bams on the planet. It's not really like storytime with Alistair and Tony tbf.
 
egb_hibs said:
I imagine they've been waiting on a pretext and the massacres gave them one (as well as being an end in themself). The thinking is probably that you don't leave it till the last moment on these things. And that's as well as Iran being a permanent obstacle to regional peace, and plotting to assassinate Donny.

This may turn out to be another middle Eastern disaster, indeed it's likely. But Iran's regime are the most dangerous bams on the planet. It's not really like storytime with Alistair and Tony tbf.
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I’d contest that it’s the U.S. who are the most dangerous bams on the planet. Just remember that it is the Americans who are the only ones to have ever used a nuclear weapon against another country.
 
Beagle said:
I’d contest that it’s the U.S. who are the most dangerous bams on the planet. Just remember that it is the Americans who are the only ones to have ever used a nuclear weapon against another country.
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Well you would, yes.
 
Feels like Trump was just itching for this to settle a score from 1979 here

He does also seem to have a modus operandi of diplomatic talks just before the surprise strikes.

I think the moral of the story is being fucking scared right after you've talked to him.
 
Sitting here at work reading this and thinking of old Thucydides.

"The strong do what they wish, the weak do what they must"
 
Iran has attacked the UK so surely we hit back and nobody would oppose that?

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Smurf said:
Iran has attacked the UK so surely we hit back and nobody would oppose that?

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I think I'd agree.
Fire on us, we fire back.

Why did they fire on us? Because we assisted in bringing down missiles/drones going to Qatar?
 
Smurf said:
Iran has attacked the UK so surely we hit back and nobody would oppose that?

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Are they standing idly by? Sounds like they are already quite invested with planes in the sky and that is only the stuff they are telling us.

What exactly would you like the UK to do and what strategic objective do you think it would fulfil bearing in mind that Iran is already being pulverised by our “allies “?

It is speculated that the drone that hit the RAF base was en errant missile targeted somewhere else, perhaps a US aircraft carrier parked nearby. Would this being the case change your calculus that we should ‘hit back’ ?
 
Smurf said:
Tax evader like that lot in Dubai....
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Beagle said:
I still need to drive to a petrol station. The closest to me is still 4 miles away and is £138.9 so it’s more a case of not getting ripped off. But you know that
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Tax avoider in any event.
egb_hibs said:
Tbh with Iran firing on RAF bases in Cyprus it's made it much more straightforward for him?
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Iran didn't fire on the RAF base in Cyprus until 4 hours after Starmer made his announcement. Nice spin though.
 
Dub said:
Tax avoider in any event.

Iran didn't fire on the RAF base in Cyprus until 4 hours after Starmer made his announcement. Nice spin though.
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Avoidance is not a crime. Evasion is 👍

Anyhoo, prices at the pumps have already gone up. Folks better think about getting a full tank sooner rather than later
 
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Hammi said:
I think I'd agree.
Fire on us, we fire back.

Why did they fire on us? Because we assisted in bringing down missiles/drones going to Qatar?
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Because Starmer agreed to let Trumplethinskin use RAF bases abroad.
 
Dub said:
Iran didn't fire on the RAF base in Cyprus until 4 hours after Starmer made his announcement. Nice spin though.
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I stand corrected. No spin, just confusion on the timeline, not least since missiles were going 'in the direction' of Cyprus well before his announcement- though reporting now seems to suggest they were 'just passing through'

So cool your beans and get working on the pro regime placards.
 
egb_hibs said:
And why are they hitting hotels across the region so you think?
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I doubt it was anything UK related. More likely to destroy the growing Arab countries tourist industry. Even as a transit hub for the Arab Airlines.

I'm not sure Tunisias tourist industry has properly recovered from the beach attack 10 years ago.
 
Jack said:
I doubt it was anything UK related. More likely to destroy the growing Arab countries tourist industry. Even as a transit hub for the Arab Airlines.

I'm not sure Tunisias tourist industry has properly recovered from the beach attack 10 years ago.
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Sounds plausible to me @Jack

They are hitting out right, left and centre and not just at military bases. All the Arab countries that are amenable to peace in the region are squarely in their crosshairs, as they have always been.
 
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