If the Trumpster made an offer to buy Scotland

[emerald green]

I meant to ask where did you get your gdp figures? Agriculture and fisheries is less than 1% of UK gdp.

Do you think Scotland UKplc is the best version of Scotland?

I think, and I realise for some out there that this is a bit crazy, but, the best people to look after the interests of the Scottish people..... are Scottish people.

What is it that you are clinging on to in respect of this unholy union of crowns? (your not allowed to mention cliff edges)

 

[Smurf]

Do you think Scotland UKplc is the best version of Scotland?

I think, and I realise for some out there that this is a bit crazy, but, the best people to look after the interests of the Scottish people..... are Scottish people.

What is it that you are clinging on to in respect of this unholy union of crowns? (your not allowed to mention cliff edges)

So you'd not have us in the EU?

 

[EH17 Jimmy]

Why can't we mention Cliff Edges? They seems a decent sort of folk....

People named Cliff Edge ; Cliff Edge. Lives in Winnipeg, Manitoba ; Ajueh Ekah Cliff ; Cliff Edge ; Clifford Aje ; Cliff Ogie

 

[Dub]

I meant to ask where did you get your gdp figures? Agriculture and fisheries is less than 1% of UK gdp.

I got it from Starmer mentioning it on TV but knowing him it could easily be bullshit.

 

[Dub]

How are they taking water without paying for it? In any event they aren't taking it at all. Equally, it's been argued here that electricity is being stolen. I just don't understand what people think is happening here. Private companies generate electricity and sell it. It's transmission is through the national grid which is run in Scotland by private companies. Renewables production is subsisidised. Again where is the theft?

I've already agreed that they aren't at present but when the capability comes along, they will take water from Scotland and if you think they will [pay for it you need to rethink.

 

[emerald green]

So you'd not have us in the EU?

So the EU ran us did they?

You dont really think that they had laws for the bananas to be this or that shape?

Could we be part of the EU in a way which benefits us? You happy that 62% of Scotland voted to stay but werent "allowed" to. You happy that there is a two tier system for subject of the UK?

 

[emerald green]

Why can't we mention Cliff Edges? They seems a decent sort of folk....

People named Cliff Edge ; Cliff Edge. Lives in Winnipeg, Manitoba ; Ajueh Ekah Cliff ; Cliff Edge ; Clifford Aje ; Cliff Ogie

 

[EH17 Jimmy]

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No sure if that's pure cheek or no so I'll just scowl for a wee while

 

[emerald green]

No sure if that's pure cheek or no so I'll just scowl for a wee while

its jimmy cliff, jimmy

 

[EH17 Jimmy]

its jimmy cliff, jimmy

Fuck sake I'm having a mare.

But in my defence he is called Jimmy Cliff Edges so I'm partially saved.

 

[Murky]

Would you accept ?

If we could keep our nationhood like various Native American tribes, or perhaps be an incorporated territory, or unincorporated territory such as Puerto Rico, and maintain our own healthcare system, I’d consider it.

Trump is only there for a few years and the future is long. The US has one which one can’t really be said with the same certainty for the EU or even Europe.

Out of the UK, into the US - for or agin?

If its going to save me the $21 dollar fee for an ESTA that I need to pay every 2 years so I can go on holiday to the States then I say go for it.

 

[Archie]

I've already agreed that they aren't at present but when the capability comes along, they will take water from Scotland and if you think they will [pay for it you need to rethink.

What about the electricity. Is it being stolen as well?

 

[Archie]

I got it from Starmer mentioning it on TV but knowing him it could easily be bullshit.

So Starmer gave you the figures!

 

[EH17 Jimmy]

What about the electricity. Is it being stolen as well?

Wish I could steal it. Costs a fortune to heat this place.

 

[Smurf]

So the EU ran us did they?

You dont really think that they had laws for the bananas to be this or that shape?

Could we be part of the EU in a way which benefits us? You happy that 62% of Scotland voted to stay but werent "allowed" to. You happy that there is a two tier system for subject of the UK?

Sorry you said the best people to run us are in Scotland. What you meant was just a bit in Scotland and some more from unelected officials accountable to to nobody in Brussels....

 

[emerald green]

Sorry you said the best people to run us are in Scotland. What you meant was just a bit in Scotland and some more from unelected officials accountable to to nobody in Brussels....

No. I said the best people to look after scottish people are scottish people. I know what I meant, thank you.

We voted for MEPs did we not. Surely you dont think the the EU ran us do you?

 

[EH17 Jimmy]

This was the MEP from our area. Thankfully I never voted for any of the dafties who stood....


Labour party chiefs have asked the European parliament to investigate allegations against one of their own MEPs, it was disclosed today.

The politician at the centre of the probe is David Martin, a vice-president of the European parliament and one of Scotland's eight MEPs.

THE allegations against David Martin came from close to home: from a member of his extended family who is also a member of the Labour party.

 

[hibbybilly]

its jimmy cliff, jimmy

C, did he no sing a song about his new girlfriend Clara after his auld burd, Lorraine, left him ?

 

[EH17 Jimmy]

Was it no I can see Deirdre now Lorraine has gone?

 

[hibbybilly]

Was it no I can see Deirdre now Lorraine has gone?

Nope definitely Clara. Your watching too much Corrie.

 

[EH17 Jimmy]

Nope definitely Clara. Your watching too much Corrie.

Your Fergies detox is kicking in eh?

 

[Archie]

Do you think Scotland UKplc is the best version of Scotland?

I think, and I realise for some out there that this is a bit crazy, but, the best people to look after the interests of the Scottish people..... are Scottish people.

What is it that you are clinging on to in respect of this unholy union of crowns? (your not allowed to mention cliff edges)

Do I think the UK could be better - yes. Do I think separation will make things better for Scottish people - no. Do I care about the union of the crowns - not a bit. Do I care about the convulsive effect separation would have on ordinary people. Definitely. On here the majority view is that Brexit is unimaginable hell. Yet Mark Blyth, who was a Scottish Government advisor, said Scexit would be Brexit times ten. But it seems that's OK?

I've never said an independent Scotland couldn't succeed. But I think it would be a lot of pain to get back to where we were. Even the SNP Growth Commission said it would be ten years of austerity. And for what - to have your heart swell with pride to see the saltire fly?

You often try to mock me by talking about cliff edges. But why do you think it would be worth the pain? Do you have any concerns that it might make people worse off? Or does that not matter?

 

[emerald green]

Do I think the UK could be better - yes. Do I think separation will make things better for Scottish people - no.

Yes but why?

Do I care about the union of the crowns - not a bit. Do I care about the convulsive effect separation would have on ordinary people. Definitely

I dont understand this.

. On here the majority view is that Brexit is unimaginable hell. Yet Mark Blyth, who was a Scottish Government advisor, said Scexit would be Brexit times ten. But it seems that's OK?

...but what about you?

I've never said an independent Scotland couldn't succeed. But I think it would be a lot of pain to get back to where we were.

We shouldnt bother trying as it might be a bit bumpy on the way?

Even the SNP Growth Commission said it would be ten years of austerity. And for what - to have your heart swell with pride to see the saltire fly?

Cmon. How much austerity have we had. Not a fuck given about saltires flying.

You often try to mock me by talking about cliff edges. But why do you think it would be worth the pain?

Im not mocking you Arch, it was the best you came up with at the time. What pain?

Do you have any concerns that it might make people worse off?

Why would we be worse off again? .... sorry you have used "might"

Or does that not matter?

Off course it matters that people "might" be worse off.

So you feel Scotland would suceed (what does that even mean), but its no worth the bother.

 

[Archie]

Do I think the UK could be better - yes. Do I think separation will make things better for Scottish people - no.

Yes but why?
Because I think the economic shock will hit people hard and take many years to recover from. We have a deficit in that more is spent in Scotland than is raised here. These are figures from the Scottish Government. That’s a day one problem. Another day one problem is setting up a central bank and currency. If we don't do that then we won't have fiscal autonomy. We would also need to do that if we were going to negotiate EU entry. We'd also have to meet the Copenhagen criteria for EU entry which would require tight control of finances.

Now examples are posted here of countries which have established themselves in the last 35 years. Almost all of these have come about due to the collapse of the Soviet Union. These aren't analogous as they were pretty shattered post communism. We would be leaving a G7 economy.

But I guess the underpinning argument you make is that somehow Scottish people will just make better decisions. But that assumes that there is the economic space to make these decisions. And in any event, what are the best interests of the Scottish people? A high tax Norway approach or a lot corporate tax approach like Ireland. There might not be much choice.

Do I care about the union of the crowns - not a bit. Do I care about the convulsive effect separation would have on ordinary people. Definitely

I dont understand this.

Well you raised the Union of the Crowns. I think the 1707 Union is the important one here.

On here the majority view is that Brexit is unimaginable hell. Yet Mark Blyth, who was a Scottish Government advisor, said Scexit would be Brexit times ten. But it seems that's OK?
...but what about you?

I think it would be really convulsive. I think Brexit was a mistake. But it has illustrated the pain of coming out of a 50 year trade agreement. Scexit is about splitting up an over 300 year old unitary state. Surely you must see the difference in scale?

I've never said an independent Scotland couldn't succeed. But I think it would be a lot of pain to get back to where we were.

We shouldnt bother trying as it might be a bit bumpy on the way?

You are trivialising and minimising the pain.

Even the SNP Growth Commission said it would be ten years of austerity. And for what - to have your heart swell with pride to see the saltire fly?

Cmon. How much austerity have we had. Not a fuck given about saltires flying.

Take that up with the SNP Growth Commission- they said it.

You often try to mock me by talking about cliff edges. But why do you think it would be worth the pain?

Im not mocking you Arch, it was the best you came up with at the time. What pain?

I've set out examples of that above. I've commented on this thread on the very practical issue of people with loans and mortgages in sterling.

Do you have any concerns that it might make people worse off?

Why would we be worse off again? .... sorry you have used "might"

Again set out above. I''ve said might because there's a chance it could be different- a very slight chance. But I don't have the rock solid certainty that you appear to have.

Or does that not matter?

Off course it matters that people "might" be worse off.

So you feel Scotland would suceed (what does that even mean), but its no worth the bother.

What I mean by Scotland succeeding is the key stuff: sustainable finances; security; social and hard infrastructure; employment; education; health and on and on. Your suggestion that I'm saying 'it's no worth the bother' implies that separation will deliver all of this. You don't know that.

 

[HaarlemShuffler]

Fuck sake I'm having a mare.

But in my defence he is called Jimmy Cliff Edges so I'm partially saved.

Guy's a pushover

 

[emerald green]

Yes but why?
Because I think the economic shock will hit people hard and take many years to recover from.#

Im not sure the shock will be at the levels you are feart of. You have us in shock, and you have us taking years to recover. IU have us in no shock and no years to recover. Recover what?

We have a deficit in that more is spent in Scotland than is raised here.

As the economy is run at the moment. The Scottish economy is run for the benefit of England. Bitter pill for you unionists to swallow.

These are figures from the Scottish Government.

So what? All figures and projections by all the parties are always correct?

That’s a day one problem. Another day one problem is setting. up a central bank and currency.

Why is this a problem for Scotland.... but no for anyone else?

If we don't do that then we won't have fiscal autonomy.

Why do you think we cant do this? Why do you think the country cant have fiscal autonomy?

We would also need to do that if we were going to negotiate EU entry.

Then lets not negaotiate EU entry until we have it.

We'd also have to meet the Copenhagen criteria for EU entry which would require tight control of finances.

For what type of business with the EU?. Are you saying we cant have ANY relationship with the, for now, largest trading block on earth?

Now examples are posted here of countries which have established themselves in the last 35 years. Almost all of these have come about due to the collapse of the Soviet Union.

Ok. Name any country that has removed themselves from the shacklesx of England. decided its no worth it and asked to come back? Any guesses?

But I guess the underpinning argument you make is that somehow Scottish people will just make better decisions.

Thats not my arguement. Who better to look after the Russian population, but russians?

But that assumes that there is the economic space to make these decisions.

What if there is though?

And in any event, what are the best interests of the Scottish people? A high tax Norway approach or a lot corporate tax approach like Ireland. There might not be much choice.

Its one or the other. What about resources archie? Is there only 2 countries in the world for this part of your arguement? Might there be a good amount of choice?
Well you raised the Union of the Crowns. I think the 1707 Union is the important one here.
Its wasnt the crowns. It was your use of convulsive. I didnt understand it.

On here the majority view is that Brexit is unimaginable hell.

I think thats the view of a lot more than the Hibbees bounce.

Yet Mark Blyth, who was a Scottish Government advisor, said Scexit would be Brexit times ten. But it seems that's OK?

Thanks mark

I think it would be really convulsive. I think Brexit was a mistake. But it has illustrated the pain of coming out of a 50 year trade agreement. Scexit is about splitting up an over 300 year old unitary state. Surely you must see the difference in scale?

So, you the way part of the UK came out of the agreements with the EU is the only way to come out of agreements? Could the parting of ways have been better? Smoother for everyone for example?. Its neither here nor there in the case of Scotland standing as an independant nation amongst all trhe other independanty nations of the world?

You are trivialising and minimising the pain.

... but you are over exaggerating the pain. Youve got it down as a disater from the start! Were you involved in project fear by any chance?

Take that up with the SNP Growth Commission- they said it.

I dont care what the SNP growth commission says. My word you hold what the SNP says quite highly. The SNP is NOT Scottish Independence. Does economic landscapes ever change Archie?

I've set out examples of that above. I've commented on this thread on the very practical issue of people with loans and mortgages in sterling.

What, every thing stops? Nothing can be worked out? People have loand and mortgages, so lets not be an independant nation? Scraping the barrel here.

Again set out above. I''ve said might because there's a chance it could be different- a very slight chance. But I don't have the rock solid certainty that you appear to have.

I dont think that our Economy would be run by us as it is now. We immediately become stronger economically if ALL companies operating in Scotland and its territory were popping their tax receipts into Edinburgh. With our own exchange restored. With our refineries restored etc. Sorry if you cant see a difference. What do we get from England Archie - economically? .... Look £10 a year gets spent more on you than on your english cousin seems to be a reason for staying in this union. Folks who wish for Scotland to be an Independant natyion like all the others, dont automatically think its all unicorns, kilts whisky and shortbread.
Why, for example, cant we have a Union with the other countries where we all control our own assets and liabilities.? How is this version, the only version, we are allowed to have? Why does OUR economy matter so much to London?

What I mean by Scotland succeeding is the key stuff: sustainable finances; security; social and hard infrastructure; employment; education; health and on and on. Your suggestion that I'm saying 'it's no worth the bother' implies that separation will deliver all of this. You don't know that.

Yep I think we will have sustainable finances. Why would security be a problem? You think we would open ourselves up for invasion by, russia, north korea? China? African countries? Other European countries? Islamic countries?
Hard infrastructure? What, are we starting from scratch?

I do know that it will will deliver all that. Why the feck wouldnt it?

 

[Smurf]

No. I said the best people to look after scottish people are scottish people. I know what I meant, thank you.

We voted for MEPs did we not. Surely you dont think the the EU ran us do you?

You think MEP's run the EU?

You can't be a true independent nation within the EU just as you can't within the UK.

Both are political unions.

 

[emerald green]

You think MEP's run the EU?

You can't be a true independent nation within the EU just as you can't within the UK.

Both are political unions.

no smurf i dont think mep's run the EU mate.

Im sure all the countries that make all the trade deals and partnerships around the globe, still view themselves as indepedent nations. You think China isnt independent because its part of BRICS.?

Does china control any of the brics nations (other trade agreements are available) to the level London controls Scotland.

London does control Scotland in your opinion yes?

 

[Archie]

Im not sure the shock will be at the levels you are feart of. You have us in shock, and you have us taking years to recover. IU have us in no shock and no years to recover. Recover what?

As the economy is run at the moment. The Scottish economy is run for the benefit of England. Bitter pill for you unionists to swallow.

So what? All figures and projections by all the parties are always correct?

Why is this a problem for Scotland.... but no for anyone else?

Why do you think we cant do this? Why do you think the country cant have fiscal autonomy?

Then lets not negaotiate EU entry until we have it.

For what type of business with the EU?. Are you saying we cant have ANY relationship with the, for now, largest trading block on earth?

Ok. Name any country that has removed themselves from the shacklesx of England. decided its no worth it and asked to come back? Any guesses?

Thats not my arguement. Who better to look after the Russian population, but russians?

What if there is though?

Its one or the other. What about resources archie? Is there only 2 countries in the world for this part of your arguement? Might there be a good amount of choice?
Well you raised the Union of the Crowns. I think the 1707 Union is the important one here.
Its wasnt the crowns. It was your use of convulsive. I didnt understand it.

I think thats the view of a lot more than the Hibbees bounce.

Thanks mark

So, you the way part of the UK came out of the agreements with the EU is the only way to come out of agreements? Could the parting of ways have been better? Smoother for everyone for example?. Its neither here nor there in the case of Scotland standing as an independant nation amongst all trhe other independanty nations of the world?

... but you are over exaggerating the pain. Youve got it down as a disater from the start! Were you involved in project fear by any chance?

I dont care what the SNP growth commission says. My word you hold what the SNP says quite highly. The SNP is NOT Scottish Independence. Does economic landscapes ever change Archie?

What, every thing stops? Nothing can be worked out? People have loand and mortgages, so lets not be an independant nation? Scraping the barrel here.

I dont think that our Economy would be run by us as it is now. We immediately become stronger economically if ALL companies operating in Scotland and its territory were popping their tax receipts into Edinburgh. With our own exchange restored. With our refineries restored etc. Sorry if you cant see a difference. What do we get from England Archie - economically? .... Look £10 a year gets spent more on you than on your english cousin seems to be a reason for staying in this union. Folks who wish for Scotland to be an Independant natyion like all the others, dont automatically think its all unicorns, kilts whisky and shortbread.
Why, for example, cant we have a Union with the other countries where we all control our own assets and liabilities.? How is this version, the only version, we are allowed to have? Why does OUR economy matter so much to London?

Yep I think we will have sustainable finances. Why would security be a problem? You think we would open ourselves up for invasion by, russia, north korea? China? African countries? Other European countries? Islamic countries?
Hard infrastructure? What, are we starting from scratch?

I do know that it will will deliver all that. Why the feck wouldnt it?

OK - we'll have to agree to disagree. I've set out what I believe to be a coherent rationale and you just come back with it'll be fine. By the way the gap between tax raised and public spending is over £2400 per head.

GERS stats show higher public spending for Scotland as part of UK

The annual Government Expenditure and Revenue report underlines the collective economic strength of the UK, says Scotland Office Minister Kirsty McNeill

www.gov.uk

The problem is that I don't have to convince you. You have to convince me. A starting point would be telling me how we would have sustainable finances?

 

[emerald green]

OK - we'll have to agree to disagree. I've set out what I believe to be a coherent rationale and you just come back with it'll be fine. By the way the gap between tax raised and public spending is over £2400 per head.

Well thanks for that. I vve just clome back with itlll be fine.
As to you 2nd point, again, i think that Scotland as an indepredent country, will not run the economy how it is being run at present. Edinburgh will have far more power than it has now. So i think your 2400 is redundant.

GERS stats show higher public spending for Scotland as part of UK

The annual Government Expenditure and Revenue report underlines the collective economic strength of the UK, says Scotland Office Minister Kirsty McNeill

www.gov.uk

The problem is that I don't have to convince you. You have to convince me. A starting point would be telling me how we would have sustainable finances?

You dont want to be convinced, and its not my job to convince you. and btw youve not said one thing to convince me this union is good for scotland. I think that this version of our country stinks. I think we can do way better. (deep down, i think you do to).

What is the benefit to Scotland that we are closing our last refinery Arch? (i have loads of these, but will settle on this one)

 

[Beagle]

OK - we'll have to agree to disagree. I've set out what I believe to be a coherent rationale and you just come back with it'll be fine. By the way the gap between tax raised and public spending is over £2400 per head.

GERS stats show higher public spending for Scotland as part of UK

The annual Government Expenditure and Revenue report underlines the collective economic strength of the UK, says Scotland Office Minister Kirsty McNeill

www.gov.uk

The problem is that I don't have to convince you. You have to convince me. A starting point would be telling me how we would have sustainable finances?

As things stand, the devolution agreement requires the Scottish government to balance their books. Scotland cannot borrow.
The UK government borrows on everyone’s behalf. To the tune of over £2 Trillion, and has fuck all to show for it.
By becoming an independent nation Scotland would be the equal of all other countries and could then borrow on the never never just as everyone else does. This would be as well as, not instead of, our current GDP and dispensing with the Barnett formula. We also have sustainable natural resources that feeds into the GDP.
All that may be a simplified outlook but we really aren’t too wee or stupid to succeed without mother England's apron strings.

 

[Smurf]

By becoming an independent nation Scotland would be the equal of all other countries and could then borrow on the never never just as everyone else does.

If you're joining the EU then they'll place limits on both borrowing and any deficit.

I spoke to Jim Sillars not so long ago who was incredulous and quite angry at the Scottish Government's position on turning away from North Sea oil pointing out that such reserves enables you to borrow giving huge confidence to lenders.

 

[Beagle]

If you're joining the EU then they'll place limits on both borrowing and any deficit.

I spoke to Jim Sillars not so long ago who was incredulous and quite angry at the Scottish Government's position on turning away from North Sea oil pointing out that such reserves enables you to borrow giving huge confidence to lenders.

I have a funny feeling that oil will be back on the agenda once we’re independent but the proceeds will be going to the Scottish exchequer instead of the Westminster black hole.

 

[Archie]

Well thanks for that. I vve just clome back with itlll be fine.
As to you 2nd point, again, i think that Scotland as an indepredent country, will not run the economy how it is being run at present. Edinburgh will have far more power than it has now. So i think your 2400 is redundant.

You dont want to be convinced, and its not my job to convince you. and btw youve not said one thing to convince me this union is good for scotland. I think that this version of our country stinks. I think we can do way better. (deep down, i think you do to).

What is the benefit to Scotland that we are closing our last refinery Arch? (i have loads of these, but will settle on this one)

OK - tell me how the Scottish economy will be run.

As to what's the benefit of closing the refinery, it's a private business that has made the choice. Nobody else appears to want to buy it so what is the choice - nationalise it? To what end? What is the benefit to Scotland of having a state owned refinery?

Now don't get me wrong. I wish we had stuck with the British National Oil Corporation and had state control of oil extraction. But we didn't, and nothing can undo that.

As to the £ 2400 per head additional being redundant, it's exactly the opposite. It's a day one problem. Unless you can show how the Scottish economy will be run differently.

 

[emerald green]

OK - tell me how the Scottish economy will be run.

Again, using all our assets and having full control of its affairs.

As to what's the benefit of closing the refinery, it's a private business that has made the choice. Nobody else appears to want to buy it so what is the choice - nationalise it? To what end? What is the benefit to Scotland of having a state owned refinery?

What is the benefits of nationalised industry.? A labour man tae

Now don't get me wrong. I wish we had stuck with the British National Oil Corporation and had state control of oil extraction. But we didn't, and nothing can undo that.

Could all the revenue go direct into Edinburgh, and all that revenue be used for the betterment of Scotland and its people?
What are you undoing exactly?

As to the £ 2400 per head additional being redundant, it's exactly the opposite. It's a day one problem. Unless you can show how the Scottish economy will be run differently.

Theres nothing you can see that our country and economy can be for us rather than the here and now? Depressing.

 

[Archie]

As things stand, the devolution agreement requires the Scottish government to balance their books. Scotland cannot borrow.
The UK government borrows on everyone’s behalf. To the tune of over £2 Trillion, and has fuck all to show for it.
By becoming an independent nation Scotland would be the equal of all other countries and could then borrow on the never never just as everyone else does. This would be as well as, not instead of, our current GDP and dispensing with the Barnett formula. We also have sustainable natural resources that feeds into the GDP.
All that may be a simplified outlook but we really aren’t too wee or stupid to succeed without mother England's apron strings.

Not quite true on borrowing:

Borrowing | Scottish Fiscal Commission

fiscalcommission.scot

 

[Archie]

Again, using all our assets and having full control of its affairs.

What is the benefits of nationalised industry.? A labour man tae

Could all the revenue go direct into Edinburgh, and all that revenue be used for the betterment of Scotland and its people?
What are you undoing exactly?

Theres nothing you can see that our country and economy can be for us rather than the here and now? Depressing.

Tell me the benefits of nationalising Grangemouth.

What are the assets we will use - data not assertions?

The point about BNOC is I would love it to have happened, but we didn't. Are you proposing nationalising oil production in an independent Scotland.

 

[emerald green]

Tell me the benefits of nationalising Grangemouth.

What are the assets we will use - data not assertions?

The point about BNOC is I would love it to have happened, but we didn't. Are you proposing nationalising oil production in an independent Scotland.

Anything is on the table. If anything is of the benefit or not to Scotland it should be considered by its Government.

But all receipts are going into Edinburgh for use in helping run our country. From all companies here, or who produce from Scotlands territory.

Why are you so opposed to Scotland having full control of her affairs? For its people to be able to vote out and in a government it wants, and that governments to have the same fundamental rights of all the countried of the world? Would we really be the only people that would fail to run their country?

I think Scotland finds iteslf in a ludicrous situation in 2025. So much at odds with other parts of this kingdom.

 

[Archie]

Anything is on the table. If anything is of the benefit or not to Scotland it should be considered by its Government.

But all receipts are going into Edinburgh for use in helping run our country. From all companies here, or who produce from Scotlands territory.

Why are you so opposed to Scotland having full control of her affairs? For its people to be able to vote out and in a government it wants, and that governments to have the same fundamental rights of all the countried of the world? Would we really be the only people that would fail to run their country?

I think Scotland finds iteslf in a ludicrous situation in 2025. So much at odds with other parts of this kingdom.

We already do have the same fundamental rights. But in some vague airy way it'll all be somehow different. You say all the receipts - what receipts? You don't articulate any details at all.

Why?

 

[Dub]

So Starmer gave you the figures!

Are you being deliberately thick or just trying to be arsey? He mentioned it in an interview.