Ice hockey player dies after throat cut by skate

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Ffs that’s horrifiic


RIP to the poor lad. I’m surprised this doesn’t happen more often tbh, or serious wounds from skates anyway. Surprised they don’t wear some kind of protective collar.
 
I watch the Nottingham Panthers often and heard this terrible news from Sheffield last evening. Adam has only been with the Panthers since August and this is an absolute tragedy. Been praying he would make it through the night, only to hear the heartbreaking and crushing news of his death this morning. The saddest of days for hockey - the game I love.

I feel bereft for his family and friends, the Panthers and all who witnessed this horrifying scene. God bless and rest in Peace, Adam.
 
I watch the Nottingham Panthers often and heard this terrible news from Sheffield last evening. Adam has only been with the Panthers since August and this is an absolute tragedy. Been praying he would make it through the night, only to hear the heartbreaking and crushing news of his death this morning. The saddest of days for hockey - the game I love.

I feel bereft for his family and friends, the Panthers and all who witnessed this horrifying scene. God bless and rest in Peace, Adam.
Stu as you seem to know the sport. I read elsewhere since posting that goalies wear neck protectors, but not (usually) outfield players. Is that right ? Is this surprising or was this incident just for freakish it would be overkill (I have not seen it and don’t intend to see it)
 
Second time I know of that happening, the last time the guy survived but horrible scenes.

Such a shame 😞
 
Stu as you seem to know the sport. I read elsewhere since posting that goalies wear neck protectors, but not (usually) outfield players. Is that right ? Is this surprising or was this incident just for freakish it would be overkill (I have not seen it and don’t intend to see it)
Yes, been watching the game for over 40 years, M, NHL and domestic. Neck guards are recommended and now obligatory for under 20s in the UK but not everywhere. All players can wear them, and goalies generally do. The goalie's crease gets mighty busy with a lot of traffic and it's chaotic at times, as you can imagine, with the tenders spending a lot of time down on the ice amongst the sticks and skates. Also there are slapshots winging in at 90mph. Increadibly, at one time of day they didn't even wear facemasks or helmets.

Some other skaters wear neck guards and some don't on personal choice. Most in the NHL don't. Some find them uncomfortable. Neck guards vary with the most common type being a simple foam cushioned collar that you attach around the neck with velcro. Goalies tend to wear what's called a 'dangler' which is attached to the helmet like a cantilever. They reach down futher and protect the collar bone.

I saw the incident, shared in a group last night (and certainly wished I hadn't). It was very unsual with the opposing players skates very high. The opposing player had been checked I think and his legs kicked out with a skate making contact. I'll make no other comment about it. I will never forget Adam Johnson's reaction as long as I live. It was just heartbreaking. I would counsel anyone against seeking it out.

There have been serious neck injuries from time to time but not often, thankfully. A St Louis goalie had his throat skated over back in the 1980s, severing his jugular. Thank God a medic was close by, rushed on the ice and saved his life undoubtedly.
 
Was really gutted to learn he had died, heard about the incident before confirmation came through.

I'm a lapsed hockey fan but knew about the previous NHL one where the boy somehow survived so was hoping for the same again.

Thanks for the extra details Stu, after the news brought the NHL clip to mind so clearly despite being decades since seeing it I decided against watching the footage.

Also well done to those posting Adam's NHL goal from a few years back on extwitter trying to make it the video people are likely to find first. That is how he should be remembered.

Edit: Just found out there was another NHL incident like this in 2008 with Richard Zedník I didn't know about which wasn't as serious but still really bad. I was thinking of the 1989 one where goalkeeper Clint Malarchuk only survived because one of his teams coaches happened to be a former combat medic who served in Vietnam.
 
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There have been serious neck injuries from time to time but not often, thankfully. A St Louis goalie had his throat skated over back in the 1980s, severing his jugular. Thank God a medic was close by, rushed on the ice and saved his life undoubtedly.

This is the one I was talking about, horrific. He was back playing a week or 2 later. Crazy.

The incident here though, so sad, a freak accident you'll rarely see. I've no intention of looking for it, you mentioning his reaction has cemented that fact.

😞
 
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It's horrible.My nephew Connor plays ice hockey.I have watched the game a few times.If I wasnae into fitba, ice hockey may have been my next choice.So RIP.
 
I think many, if not all, fixtures have been cancelled for today, absolutely correctly in my view. The Panthers themselves were due to play but obviously, that was called off, as is a fixture on Tuesday evening that they have. I can't begin to understand what both the Nottingham and Sheffield players will have been feeling. They gathered around Adam to obscure fans' vew of him in poor condition before screens were rushed out onto the ice. Hockey is a little different to football in that relations between both players and fans tend to be a bit closer. They unite very quickly. Not meant as a knock on football by any means.

My pal's son plays for the Peterborough team. He drives up and down the country to watch him every Saturday and Sunday evening during the season. The league wanted their game against Milton Keynes to go ahead tonight and the people who rent out the stadium, Planet Ice, will fine the teams for not fulfilling. Ithink the players have told them to get fcuked quite rightly and they won't be icing tonight.

I've observed the Canadian tradition of leaving a hockey stick in my front porch this evening. The meaning is 'The boys might need it ... wherever they are'.
 
Sadly it seems my hopes for the boys NHL goal being what everyone finds didn't work, once the situation became more mainstream and especially once it started getting passed round the Americans (some of whom have other agendas) the whole thing has turned into an utter shiteshow on social media. Aside from the usual gore hounds and trolls there are those making the most serious of accusations, and demanding the highest punishments, based on nothing but low resolution clips some of which don't even show the build up to the incident.
Hopefully the police looking into it will come to the correct decision, whatever that is.

On the positive side both the English and Scottish Ice Hockey bodies have stated that neck protection will become mandatory, not sure of the exact details on the English one but in Scotland neck protectors will be highly recommended until the end of the year, then mandatory after that, the delay to give people a chance to get hold of one with the expectation that stocks will probably sell out and not everyone would be able to get something straight away.
 
Sadly it seems my hopes for the boys NHL goal being what everyone finds didn't work, once the situation became more mainstream and especially once it started getting passed round the Americans (some of whom have other agendas) the whole thing has turned into an utter shiteshow on social media. Aside from the usual gore hounds and trolls there are those making the most serious of accusations, and demanding the highest punishments, based on nothing but low resolution clips some of which don't even show the build up to the incident.
Hopefully the police looking into it will come to the correct decision, whatever that is.

On the positive side both the English and Scottish Ice Hockey bodies have stated that neck protection will become mandatory, not sure of the exact details on the English one but in Scotland neck protectors will be highly recommended until the end of the year, then mandatory after that, the delay to give people a chance to get hold of one with the expectation that stocks will probably sell out and not everyone would be able to get something straight away.
Also dismayed but not necessarily surprised at some of the coverage and 'interest' in the accident. The first I saw of this was social media channel after channel, in particular from the sub-continent, vying for Likes on the evening soon after the accident. These people proclaiming him 'dead' when there had been no announcement of the sort. One ridiculously called the game 'ice football'. They have no interest or knowledge of events, just ghouls looking for their precious Likes.

Quite a few ignorant mentions generally of 'kung fu kicks' and 'assaults' from people who have probably never been to a game in their life. Then there are the videos with 'murder' brazenly titled over them. Oh, and there's the call for neck guards (a sound idea, yes) but comments of the 'FFS why wait till someone dies' from a variety of arseholes.

Talked to my pal's lad from the Peterborough Phantoms team and he said that not one single player apart from the goalies uses neck guards (though he personally will in future). In the past players here would have to wear them until 18 years, along with full face cages. As soon as they come of age they lose them. Some of the toxic testosterone in the sport actually see players bing targeted or at least stigmatised for wearing these extra protective items beyond 18.

Anyway, I'm heartened to see Adams's former NHL team, Pittsburgh commemorate his passing well and appropriately.

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Sheffield Steelers' Matt Petgrave has now been arrested on suspicion of manslaughter of Nottingham Panthers' Adam Johnson.

Having seen the video of the incident I'm surprised it's take so long for him to charged.
The martial art style kick to Johnstons neck in no way looks accidental more a deliberate action.
 
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Having seen the video of the incident I'm surprised it's take so long for him to charged.
The martial art style kick to Johnstons neck in no way looks accidental more a deliberate action.

By all accounts of anyone who's seen the video this is the case.

Went in to do damage.
 
Videos on YouTube.. quite graphic but at least you can see what actually happened...it looked to me like he deliberately aimed a kick at him to stop his advance.... it was reckless but I doubt he expected that result.
 
Just watched the incident on YouTube.
Dearie me... It's not what I expected having initially read the headlines about a 'tragic accident'.
As it's an active criminal case I'll say no more other than R.I.P. to the victim Adam Johnson.
 
The perpetrator is one of the dirtiest around and forever playing dirty.

There's absolutely no way this was an accident.

He didn't goto kill him....But he certainly intended too really hurt him.
 
The Nottingham Panthers made a very tasteful tribute to Adam Johnson on Saturday evening.

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I watched it to try and understand how the hell it could of happened as I heard he wasn't lying on the deck. An absolute shocker. The guy responsible deserves the very harshest punishment.
 
I've now watched it

And fuck that guy
Lock him up and never let him out.

There's absolutely no reason for his foot to be off the ice never mind being launched into someone's throat.

The guy got up and skated off the ice 😳
That's not a slash, that will have punched right into him. Horrible *&*^.
 
Unfortunately saw it too. The guy tried to injure him for sure. Probably didn't try and kill him though
I think there is zero possibility he intended to kill or seriously injure him. However - though I have not and do not intend to watch the video - reading accounts suggests to me the sport may have a culture problem the way rugby used to (my impression, though I don’t follow the game, is it’s been cleaned up at least in this respect).

I used to marvel at the beefy bonhomie what voiced over the raking of faces with studs and so on, which could easily cost someone their eye, when the same thing would have got you a massive ban - and rightly so - in football. I confess I know zilch about ice hockey but if it’s normal to try and intimidate using the blades of skates it needs dealt with.
 
Glad to hear it Stu though it makes this incident sound worse in a way.

He comes at the guy, at speed, one leg on the ground with his other leg fully extended, outstretched at the guy, at chest height. It's glanced off his chest and gone straight into him under his jaw.
I dont even think he was the guy with the puck.

He didn't intend to kill him, but he absolutely meant to hurt him, and hurt him proper.

If you smashed a glass over someone and they bled out, you'd be done for some degree of murder. He deserves the same for trying to crush this dudes chest and missing.

Hockey is a rough, fast, hard sport played by some extremely tough dudes. But what he done, couldn't be further from the norm. And reading into him, he's made a name for himself being a real dirty player around the leagues.

He should've been clamped down on, not the sport.
 
He comes at the guy, at speed, one leg on the ground with his other leg fully extended, outstretched at the guy, at chest height. It's glanced off his chest and gone straight into him under his jaw.
I dont even think he was the guy with the puck.

He didn't intend to kill him, but he absolutely meant to hurt him, and hurt him proper.

If you smashed a glass over someone and they bled out, you'd be done for some degree of murder. He deserves the same for trying to crush this dudes chest and missing.

Hockey is a rough, fast, hard sport played by some extremely tough dudes. But what he done, couldn't be further from the norm. And reading into him, he's made a name for himself being a real dirty player around the leagues.

He should've been clamped down on, not the sport.
Jail time beckons
 
Looking at English law which has voluntary and involuntary manslaughter rather than culpable homicide, this looks like prime facie case of voluntary manslaughter which carries a max jail term of life.
 
Glad to hear it Stu though it makes this incident sound worse in a way.
Yes, I can see why you'd say that, M. I don't think it's something that the laws of the game particular cater for though I could be mistaken - mainly because it is just so rare. Hockey players have many ways of intimidating opponents but using skate blades doesn't really feature in them. Using sticks on each other, 'laying on the lumber' is frowned upon but it can still only mean a two-minute minor penalty for slashing, hooking, cross-checking or spearing. They are a regular event in games.

One of the original reasons that fighting was allowed in hockey, way back, is that in a game which is played at furious speed (30-45 second shifts at full pace) with a lot of bodily contact, it was considered that dropping the gloves and a square go ensuing was preferable to raising your stick on someone.

They have an old saying in Canada, 'if you can't them in the alley, you can't beat them on the ice'. Young hockey kids in Canada are still brought up that way - rightly or wrongly.
He comes at the guy, at speed, one leg on the ground with his other leg fully extended, outstretched at the guy, at chest height. It's glanced off his chest and gone straight into him under his jaw.
I dont even think he was the guy with the puck.

He didn't intend to kill him, but he absolutely meant to hurt him, and hurt him proper.

If you smashed a glass over someone and they bled out, you'd be done for some degree of murder. He deserves the same for trying to crush this dudes chest and missing.

Hockey is a rough, fast, hard sport played by some extremely tough dudes. But what he done, couldn't be further from the norm. And reading into him, he's made a name for himself being a real dirty player around the leagues.

He should've been clamped down on, not the sport.
I have watched and watched this incident as I wanted to try and satisfy myself what had happened, (I should add, not the sad and harrowing aftermath of poor Adam being struck. I don't feel that the footage is clear enough for me to decide conclusively, 100%, on the intent. I do though strongly feel that there was intent. I've read people say that Petgrave's skate connecting with that of the third player and sent him spinning and out of control and maybe that's a factor but my initial thought upon viewing was 'well he didn't do much to try and avoid Johnson there'.

After many views there are a few factors that show intent. One is the late kicking out motion by the player. Another is that if he was truly out of control whilst knocked off his skates his arms would most likely be flailing out involuntarily in a bid to right himself and they are not. Another factor is that he appeared to keep his eyes on the target - the player - throughout, which would be consistent with a martial arts kick. There is also the idea of 'tucking' the skates in when collisions happen, which certainly did not happen here. For what it's worth, Petgrave didn't even appear to show any concern but just skated away from the incident.

I came across a short video of Matt Petgrave as a 17 year-old playing in Canada. He was perpetrating one of the dirtiest moves in hockey - that of slew-footing an opponent from behind and targeting his knee - quite possibly a career-ending assault. It's cowardly and low. He currently has the highest penatly in minutes )pims) total in the Elite League.

Now, the only hockey I've played is pond hockey, for fun, very different of course but I have watched the game, often top level stuff, for over forty years. More than that, I was fortunate to be educated in the finer points of hockey culture and insight by Canadian family and friends. Those people knew the game inside out and learnt to skate about the same time they learned to walk. I feel pretty sure each and every one of them would point to intent.

The debate is not one of 'did he mean to kill him'. I don't think anyone really believes that. Did he mean to make contact though - absolutely he did. He did what he did to lay some contact on Adam Johnson - to stop him from skating into the Panthers attacking zone - something that any hockey player would do, just not in that reckless and dangerous manner.

Sorry for the long post, just my two-penn'orth
 
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