How the Tories solved unemployment

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HaarlemShuffler

HaarlemShuffler

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Via the TUC from the OECD I understand from a Dutch news article.

This graph shows the data:

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Also reported in Guardian UK joins Greece at bottom of wage growth league (yesterday apparently).

It's like I've been aware of this all the time yet maybe cos I don't actually live there anymore it's hard to believe it really is this 'hollowed out' an economy.

PS Holland not exactly sparkling either pffft

Do these figures stack up and if so have government responded to them yet?
 
HaarlemShuffler said:
Via the TUC from the OECD I understand from a Dutch news article.

This graph shows the data:

View attachment 5985

Also reported in Guardian UK joins Greece at bottom of wage growth league (yesterday apparently).

It's like I've been aware of this all the time yet maybe cos I don't actually live there anymore it's hard to believe it really is this 'hollowed out' an economy.

PS Holland not exactly sparkling either pffft

Do these figures stack up and if so have government responded to them yet?
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d'you know if these are real terms or actual? pretty damning either way....
 
HaarlemShuffler said:
In the source it said "real wages (wages, corrected for inflation)". Hope that makes sense.

I can't access the OECD report stats as it's for accredited journos only it seems...
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cheers dude, the uk figs are all too believable what surprised me is how this compares with the wider European picture. somewhat punctures the tory mantra that the UK has a better performing economy. growth as the sole indicator is basically useless
 
How the Tories solved unemployment? Well they haven't; they just manipulated the figures. For a kick-off, the appalling zero hours contracts wipe people off the register.
 
jock3 said:
How the Tories solved unemployment? Well they haven't; they just manipulated the figures. For a kick-off, the appalling zero hours contracts wipe people off the register.
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Out of interest in your opinion who creates jobs?
 
Smurf said:
Out of interest in your opinion who creates jobs?
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Jobs are created by investors; i.e. it starts with the government and feeds down

Pity this shower we have for a government don't give a sh*t
 
jock3 said:
Jobs are created by investors; i.e. it starts with the government and feeds down

Pity this shower we have for a government don't give a sh*t
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Where does the government get the money it 'invests' ?
 
gun ainm said:
cheers dude, the uk figs are all too believable what surprised me is how this compares with the wider European picture. somewhat punctures the tory mantra that the UK has a better performing economy. growth as the sole indicator is basically useless
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we have Lower unemployment than all bar Germany (for whom southern is Europe is sacrificed), higher median salary than most, higher net migration than most and so on, and of course labour left us with a bigger mess than any of the others. It's a fecking shocking picture if accurate, but also about choices and about comparators - no point comparing us to der fritz when labour put us in a Greece position. And no point complaining while we choose globalisation - we'll have high migration and offshoring actively supported by our left, where other countries have labour movements and closed shop employment that ensures migrants are excluded along with other have nots, and that more jobs are kept onshore. Of course some of those countries are headed for total collapse, but that's the thing with choices!
 
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