ghettocide

egb_hibs

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Just finished a book by this title which I recommend - although lazy readers like me may struggle to finish when it moves off the streets and into the courts which I found a little dull.

Nevertheless a very thought provoking study on the awful problems of crime within US black ghettos. The author doesn't really dwell on explanations that suit liberal or conservative arguments - the legacy of both slavery and family breakdown are all over it but not particularly dwelled upon. Meanwhile, suggested remedies will please and displease both sides.

An interesting dimension of the book is the way that cliches are busted. The homicide cops may be uniformly republican, but all are well grounded and wear the horrors of the job lightly - no one is sitting each night with a bottle of jack, contemplating their revolver. Meanwhile they are animated with the conviction that black lives matter and that suggestions of a specifically black problem are bullshit, that the problem is instead a deficiency in enforcing a state monopoly on violence (see what I mean about pleasing and displeasing both political camps at once).

The author sympathises with the view and traces the appalling rates on black homicide as consistent right back to the slave era, where a lack of equivalent attention from the legal system is argued to allow violent lawlessness to prosper. Bearing this up is a stat I read somewhere else whilst reading the book - black men are famously over represented in U.S. Jails. However given the ratio of violent crime they commit vs whites, they are actually underrepresented on that basis. This chimes with the books point - black perpetrators of violence actually receive less attention and lighter sentences (when their victims are black as they overwhelmingly are) and the black population suffer the consequences. In the affected neighbourhoods the politics are of course complex, with the police simultaneously taunted for their lack of attention, and decried as an occupying force where attention is given. (The chant 'one time' you used to here in rap records seems to mirror a street shout to patrolling police who come by once a day).

The stats in the books are fucking horrific. Black men in affected areas are 38x times more likely to be murdered than the average citizen and have a 1 in 35 chance of being murdered (possibly the other way around). Meanwhile the book is at its most bleakly effective in passages where it is following the cops in real time - say a week has gone by between two events, the author will casually and without comment catalogue all the murders in the area in the intervening days; it's horrific.

As well as the GOP pleasing / liberal displeasing tough policing line, the reverse is argued to be a main strategy, in respect of welfare payments helping first offenders go straight. The book ends on an optimistic note with homicide plummeting in LA (the setting) as elsewhere in the U.S.

Sadly, since then, this year has seen a rocketing rise in several U.S. Cities, which pundits I have read attribute to one or both of liberal mayors rolling back the broken windows policing policy after which crime fell massively, and which has always been dismissed by liberal thinkers as the cause (their conclusion being it just happened for reasons unknown) and / or a roll back of police presence after all the cop shooting controversies this year. (I read the book on the back of these, I'm presently wading through a tome on white power movements in the U.S. On the back of the charleston shooting which is genuinely tedious, being full of unsympathetic racist socialists and anarchists of the the most aresholeish kind)

Recommended.
 
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Thanks for that. Vaguely related, I've been re-watching Spike Lee 'joints' this week whilst the latest parasites have been sleeping and although they date pretty badly in terms of fashion/style etc. they're extra relevant today with the current state of debate in Yanklandia. I'm not sure I completely concur with Lees' picture but I'm a honky with zero grounding in that life, so, I'm pretty ill-equipped to comment really. This book sounds excellent.
 
Thanks for that. Vaguely related, I've been re-watching Spike Lee 'joints' this week whilst the latest parasites have been sleeping and although they date pretty badly in terms of fashion/style etc. they're extra relevant today with the current state of debate in Yanklandia. I'm not sure I completely concur with Lees' picture but I'm a honky with zero grounding in that life, so, I'm pretty ill-equipped to comment really. This book sounds excellent.
If you want a book from the other side of the tracks Monster by Sanyika Shakur is an excellent read on life inside the crips. Other similar books I have looked at are pish, monster is the one to go for,
 
If you want a book from the other side of the tracks Monster by Sanyika Shakur is an excellent read on life inside the crips. Other similar books I have looked at are pish, monster is the one to go for,

Just ordered the two books, cheers.
 
Theres another book by Leon Bing called Do or Die that is worth a read. Kody helped with it and it inspired him to write his own book. (K, you can borrow mine if you want)

Also these a docu called Eight Trey Gangster:Making of a Crip. It has Monster and his younger bro Lil' Monster. You can find it on yoochoob.
 
Theres another book by Leon Bing called Do or Die that is worth a read. Kody helped with it and it inspired him to write his own book. (K, you can borrow mine if you want)

Also these a docu called Eight Trey Gangster:Making of a Crip. It has Monster and his younger bro Lil' Monster. You can find it on yoochoob.

Cheers, man.
 
Chicago is probably one of the worst affected cities for black crime and murders. Also has some of the tightest gun laws in the country too. Doesn't seem to work though.
 
Chicago is probably one of the worst affected cities for black crime and murders. Also has some of the tightest gun laws in the country too. Doesn't seem to work though.

Gone to hell since rahm Emmanuel took over has it not? Obamas Alastair Campbell as it were