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Scott brown a failed manager on two occasions. Who cares what he thinks . Only gets media attention because he played for Celtic

Fair enough.

Sadly though more Hibby's than not believe the Gunts won't be in the mix than believe we will.

Our shambolic performance on the final day v Motherwell was telling. I suspect we've many more ahead this coming season as not much has changed and that's before we sell one or two of our assets.
 
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Please lets not suck out any hope of a good season by constantly being doom mongers. We had a lot of injuries at the business end of the season which didnt help. With a fully fit squad and the those signed in january now settled and new guys like kerr looking cracking buys im optimistic we will be a good deal better next season. Sdg will be using the friendlies to get ready for europe. He will need different set ups for domestic games. He did tremendous in europe last season v top teams. Im sure hes well aware he needs to improve domestically.
Yeah let's just be blindly optimistic. Personally I'd rather have my eyes wide open. Last season we were a horrendous watch. The football was brutal. Our activities thus far in the market have been minimal. We need an injection of quality and a different tactical approach otherwise we have a season of struggle ahead.
 
Well said . It’s pathetic.
You the same guy that pretty much slated DG's tactics at the end of last season saying he'll never change etc, etc? You the same guy that went through the team naming certain individuals who are not good enough?

You indeed are.
 
Yeah let's just be blindly optimistic. Personally I'd rather have my eyes wide open. Last season we were a horrendous watch. The football was brutal. Our activities thus far in the market have been minimal. We need an injection of quality and a different tactical approach otherwise we have a season of struggle ahead.
I agree we need some freshening up and hopefully the three new signings will do that. They all seem a decent pedigree which will enhance the team I am sure. I think there will be more new signings and we all know, Hibs always take their time with this. It’s a new season and an opportunity to learn from mistakes, and some fringe players to step up. SDG has built up a reputation of being defensive and one dimensional, I think some of this is unfair but I can also understand why too. We played some great football in Europe last year and the team is full of football players. Hopefully SDG has learned from last season, I am optimistic he will have, and we will see more variety to our approach to games.
None of the above is blind optimism, but I think looking back serves little purpose. I am more than happy to put my faith in SDG and the team to make this a good season ahead. I might be proved wrong, time will tell.
 
Fair enough.

Sadly though more Hibby's than not believe the Gunts won't be in the mix than believe we will.

Our shambolic performance on the final day v Motherwell was telling. I suspect we've many more ahead this coming season as not much has changed and that's before we sell one or two of our assets.
What evidence do you have to back up that claim?

Your constant negativity is draining .

Motherwell fixture is history
 
You the same guy that pretty much slated DG's tactics at the end of last season saying he'll never change etc, etc? You the same guy that went through the team naming certain individuals who are not good enough?

You indeed are.
Based on a seasons performances of which l watched ever game in the flesh . Not hearsay not firestick fans.

My opinion is Lots of the players aren’t good enough but I’m not wetting my pants . You constantly moan .

And using Motherwell as your reference point
 
Yeah let's just be blindly optimistic. Personally I'd rather have my eyes wide open. Last season we were a horrendous watch. The football was brutal. Our activities thus far in the market have been minimal. We need an injection of quality and a different tactical approach otherwise we have a season of struggle ahead.
How do you know the new signings won’t improve thd team …
 
Based on a seasons performances of which l watched ever game in the flesh . Not hearsay not firestick fans.

My opinion is Lots of the players aren’t good enough but I’m not wetting my pants . You constantly moan .

And using Motherwell as your reference point
I'm not a "firestick fan" I'm a season ticket holder of 33 years.

Ah OK all alright for you to moan and complain about our CEO, board, ownership, DoF, manager, players and tactics because you're an uber fan that "..watched ever game in the flesh".

Get a grip.
 
Your constant negativity is draining .

Easy. Block me.

However, the irony is fuckin off the scale reading through the constant whinging of every aspect of our club in your posting history.

Though I forgot you're not a firestick fan and watch "..ever game in the flesh" so you've earned the right to be negative....
 
Scott brown going on last season. With both main striker and other vital players gone plus halkett out and mcinnes at der hun id be gobsmacked if they get within 12 points of sellick. Not sure about der hun as it could go either way for mcinnes.
 
Scott brown going on last season. With both main striker and other vital players gone plus halkett out and mcinnes at der hun id be gobsmacked if they get within 12 points of sellick. Not sure about der hun as it could go either way for mcinnes.
Agreed.

IMO Hibs and Hearts will be fighting it out for third next season, although if we get group stage European football that will certainly affect our league challenge.

There has been huge change at all our rival clubs this summer, much of it unwanted, whereas Hibs have the sort of stability we have been wanting for years.
I think this will help us next season.

McInnes has never managed a club as big as Rangers before, with all the hysterical massive expectations, challenges and demands that it entails.
Yes, he is a boyhood hun so will know what the club is "all about", but he either wins the league or he is out the door next summer.
He will know this.
He's never had that sort of pressure before.
 
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Based on a seasons performances of which l watched ever game in the flesh . Not hearsay not firestick fans.

My opinion is Lots of the players aren’t good enough but I’m not wetting my pants . You constantly moan .

And using Motherwell as your reference point
No need.
You could have said "not getting worried".

Bored Season 5 GIF by The Office
 
Agreed.

IMO Hibs and Hearts will be fighting it out for third next season, although if we get group stage European football that will certainly affect our league challenge.

There has been huge change at all our rival clubs this summer, much of it unwanted, whereas Hibs have the sort of stability we have been wanting for years.
I think this will help us next season.

McInnes has never managed a club as big as Rangers before, with all the hysterical massive expectations, challenges and demands that it entails.
Yes, he is a boyhood hun so will know what the club is "all about", but he either wins the league of he is out the door next summer.
He will know this.
He's never had that sort of pressure before.

Hunco fans I've been speaking to today don't think McInnes will last to Christmas.

I'm no convinced Hearts will be able to be there or there about too.
I know they don't have a direct route to guaranteed Europe, but I half expect then to get into the conference league. That'll put money in the club, but it'll hold them back in the league imo.

I can't see any of us being able to mount a challenge while playing in Europe. The ability to have that extra depth in the squad is beyond the rest of us.
 
Hunco fans I've been speaking to today don't think McInnes will last to Christmas.

I'm no convinced Hearts will be able to be there or there about too.
I know they don't have a direct route to guaranteed Europe, but I half expect then to get into the conference league. That'll put money in the club, but it'll hold them back in the league imo.

I can't see any of us being able to mount a challenge while playing in Europe. The ability to have that extra depth in the squad is beyond the rest of us.
I reckon the Huns will win the league. Celtc will see the Martin O'Neil legacy tarnished. They were horrendous last season.
 
Easy. Block me.

However, the irony is fuckin off the scale reading through the constant whinging of every aspect of our club in your posting history.

Though I forgot you're not a firestick fan and watch "..ever game in the flesh" so you've earned the right to be

Yeah let's just be blindly optimistic. Personally I'd rather have my eyes wide open. Last season we were a horrendous watch. The football was brutal. Our activities thus far in the market have been minimal. We need an injection of quality and a different tactical approach otherwise we have a season of struggle ahead.
Are you rev i m jolly in disguise. If it makes you that miserable why go to the games.
 
Hunco fans I've been speaking to today don't think McInnes will last to Christmas.

I'm no convinced Hearts will be able to be there or there about too.
I know they don't have a direct route to guaranteed Europe, but I half expect then to get into the conference league. That'll put money in the club, but it'll hold them back in the league imo.

I can't see any of us being able to mount a challenge while playing in Europe. The ability to have that extra depth in the squad is beyond the rest of us.
Doesnt matter how much money they have they will waste the vast majority of it. They always have done.
 
Interesting thoughts Smurf, each has its merits though the last thing we want to see are the Huns winning anything.
I thought they under achieved with their squad last season. Their ownership is throwing a lot of money at it. They've a decent manager. I hope I'm wrong and we win it. But I doubt the thought is even on the mind of anyone at our club....
 
Interesting thoughts Smurf, each has its merits though the last thing we want to see are the Huns winning anything.
I think it will be much closer between the bigots with the rest also rans in terms of a league challenge I fear. The Hun or Smeltic will be stronger as last season was a wake up call.
Farts blew their best chance and I just can’t see them sustaining the challenge, despite the claims etc.
I would be disappointed if Hibs are not trying to win the league but realistically, 3rd should be our minimum aim.
 
Cant see the huns winning feck all. Can only presume mcinnes has been told hes no chance of the scotland job to take the hun gig. On a hiding to nothing.

I think both Rangers and Celtic will be worse off than last season at this moment. Celtic struggling to sign anyone and Rangers signings don't look up to much.
 
The football was brutal though and a lot of people did stop going to matches, not something any of us want surely?
Fair enough. I doubt bar the well fans last season any teams fans would say they enjoyed the football. Most jambos fans i know admitted they were an awful watch. The football was brutal as the standard of player has dropped dramatically imho. I do agree that we are in danger of losing fans if the fare doesnt improve but whether changing manager does improve the watch we can only guess at. Its a results business and unfortunately it seems being entertaining is a added bonus just now.
 
Fair enough. I doubt bar the well fans last season any teams fans would say they enjoyed the football. Most jambos fans i know admitted they were an awful watch. The football was brutal as the standard of player has dropped dramatically imho. I do agree that we are in danger of losing fans if the fare doesnt improve but whether changing manager does improve the watch we can only guess at. Its a results business and unfortunately it seems being entertaining is an added bonus just now.
My opinion is that every football coach in existence thought the Guardiola method was the blueprint for the future of the game.
The theory that if you retain possession of the ball then the opposition can’t score against you is sound, but only now are coaches waking up to the reality (or they should be) that their players mostly don’t have the ability to play like that. Club owners, whilst hoping for success, are surely beginning to realise that the product on the park is far from entertaining and they will be alarmed at dwindling attendances.
A team of average players that wakes up to this, chucks it in the bin and goes back to playing competitive football, might just get ahead of the rest who are still scratching their heads wondering why it’s not working for them.
 
Your probably right but clubs are still buying players that cant play posession based football. Scotland looked the least comfortable team on the ball in the group stages. It will take years if not decades to plug the skills gap and instal the mentalitity in players assuming they can do it of course.
 
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Just read the match report, good result for us, sounds like Sallinger and the woodwork saved us from a bit of a going over. Goal sounded good.
 
Looking forward to Smurf's... 😁

As I said elsewhere that's a result that can only give confidence to all those involved. Ultimately as everyone says the results are not important as it's all about building up to match fitness for the new season. Nonetheless as Scott Brown and Stuart Lovell said on the Hibee Buzz a good pre season can make a real difference for when it matters.