Ebola

egb_hibs

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Getting a bit scarey, what?

US doctor who had gone to help now infected, leading African doctor just died of it after treating patients, infected people collapsing in airports having got off flights - within Africa, for now.

This has been building for a few months now, and it seems like this time they're having real trouble putting a lid on it.
 
Getting a bit scarey, what?

US doctor who had gone to help now infected, leading African doctor just died of it after treating patients, infected people collapsing in airports having got off flights - within Africa, for now.

This has been building for a few months now, and it seems like this time they're having real trouble putting a lid on it.

How long till USA gets the blame?
 
Nigeria have been trying to lock down borders. Apparently some guy that was infected got off a flight in Burkina Faso and was then allowed to board another flight. Where's Hoffman when you need him!
 
I'll show my ignorance here and ask what is different here from the bird flu, swine flu, SARS, that were going to kill us all too?
 
I'll show my ignorance here and ask what is different here from the bird flu, swine flu, SARS, that were going to kill us all too?

I think the big difference is the death rate and the brutal way you die. Something like 50% death rate and basically your body kinda disintegrates. Minging.

Ebola has been around for ages (hence the post above about Dustin Hoffman - film from 1995 about an Ebola Outbreak). I remember there being big concern around that time. I was living in London at the time and there were a couple cases reported in London which made everyone panic.

You ever seen World War Z? I kinda think films like that are in some ways expressing the fear of just how deadly and difficult to stop something like this could be. We have no vaccine and Brad Pitt is too busy having a rammy with Shades because of his pool party with Angelina.:laff:
 
I think the big difference is the death rate and the brutal way you die. Something like 50% death rate and basically your body kinda disintegrates. Minging.

Ebola has been around for ages (hence the post above about Dustin Hoffman - film from 1995 about an Ebola Outbreak). I remember there being big concern around that time. I was living in London at the time and there were a couple cases reported in London which made everyone panic.

You ever seen World War Z? I kinda think films like that are in some ways expressing the fear of just how deadly and difficult to stop something like this could be. We have no vaccine and Brad Pitt is too busy having a rammy with Shades because of his pool party with Angelina.:laff:

Indeed, In true Hollywood style, 'patient zero' is found in the nick of time...antidote made and world disaster is averted. Phew!

This doesn`t quite pan out that way though. The boffins have been searching for something to slow this hideous virus for at least 20 years.....nothing yet as far as i know.

If this awful bastard thing breaks out into the world....it`ll be major fuckin scary and dont expect Dustin Hoffman to ride to the rescue.
 
I think the big difference is the death rate and the brutal way you die. Something like 50% death rate and basically your body kinda disintegrates. Minging.

Ebola has been around for ages (hence the post above about Dustin Hoffman - film from 1995 about an Ebola Outbreak). I remember there being big concern around that time. I was living in London at the time and there were a couple cases reported in London which made everyone panic.

You ever seen World War Z? I kinda think films like that are in some ways expressing the fear of just how deadly and difficult to stop something like this could be. We have no vaccine and Brad Pitt is too busy having a rammy with Shades because of his pool party with Angelina.:laff:

90%
 
Years ago I read a book called hot zone from which the Hoffman film was adapted, right rivetin read and scarey as. Years ago now so I may misremember the details but their was an outbreak in a monkey house in the middle of a major us city, before they knew what was going on, every single monkey / ape in the place and every human that worked their was infected. All animals died, but the particular strain was a tiny bit genetically different from human lethal forms and was in fact next to completely harmless to humans, with nobody suffering more than minor symptoms. Had it been a 'hot strain' you would have had something with next to 100% proximity infection with 90% lethality in the middle of a major western city.

One of the reasons - according to the book - that Ebola hasn't done more damage is its too lethal - it kills too fast to spread. Aids was presented as the opposite end of the spectrum - it can take years to present, which allowed its spread. It's also very hard to catch outside sexual practices that involved bleeding, or needle sharing etc, the nightmare scenario is something in between - easy to catch, slow to present, highly lethal, there are strains of some of these diseases that each have bits if that lethal formula - if it ever comes together,...

Aids is a mentalist itself - I can't remember specifics but in order of magnitude terms it mutates more times in a few weeks than the flu has done in all human history or something like that. The hit fear was that it would 'aerosolise' ie be transmittable over the air via coughs and sneezes like the flu or cold. Again if that happened the chips would be in - and as I say, bear in mind, it mutates every few weeks more than the flu has ever done, and then difference in a flu mutation can be winter sniffles or tens of millions dead.

And then there is Bacteria immune to antibiotics. That said for some reason it still produces an irrational meh in me. I was always the kind to eat a sweetie that feell on the ground while all,the fastidious ****s always seemed more sickly.

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Indeed, In true Hollywood style, 'patient zero' is found in the nick of time...antidote made and world disaster is averted. Phew!

This doesn`t quite pan out that way though. The boffins have been searching for something to slow this hideous virus for at least 20 years.....nothing yet as far as i know.

If this awful $#@! thing breaks out into the world....it`ll be major $#@!in scary and dont expect Dustin Hoffman to ride to the rescue.

They actually identified (or believe they have) patient zero who brought aids to the west - poor sod, some legacy.
 
Doesn't help having ocal supersticion and mistrust

Local superstitions hamper anti-Ebola efforts

No government measures can work while the African population demonstrates mistrust towards hospital treatment, or foreign volunteers trying to help those infected.

On Saturday, a woman suffering from the first confirmed case of Ebola in Sierra Leone's capital died after her parents forcibly took her from hospital to a traditional healer.

A nationwide radio and television campaign was launched to persuade the relatives of Saudatu Koroma, 32, to return to hospital. It eventually took a police effort to take the woman to hospital. She died on her way there.

"She was severely dehydrated and weak and could hardly speak," health ministry spokesperson Sidi Yahya Tunis told AFP. "Blood samples taken from both the father and mother are now being tested."


Sierra Leone has recently seen angry crowds gathering near hospitals, where people infected with Ebola are receiving treatment. A popular rumor has it theres no such disease as Ebola and people are being taken away as part of a conspiracy.

Thousands protested outside the clinic in Kenema, Sierra Leone, on Friday. People threatened to burn down the facility and liberate all patients. Police had to resort to tear gas to disperse the crowd, eyewitnesses told Reuters.

Relatives of those sick try to get patients out of hospitals or to obtain their dead bodies to carry out traditional funerals, which involve the manual washing of the body.

Ebola, a highly contagious disease, spreads through contact with bodily fluids. Its initial symptoms are fever and sore throat, while the later are vomiting, diarrhea, internal and external bleeding.
The current outbreak of the disease kills approximately 60 percent of those infected.
 
They actually identified (or believe they have) patient zero who brought aids to the west - poor sod, some legacy.

The fact that the UN are struggling to now contain this thing is genuinely frightening.

It was ok, we Westerners thought, when it was just in Africa....

Now if it gets out we could be looking at the black fucking death.

It`s horrifying. I really dont fancy dying with my major organs squirting out my arse.
 
The fact that the UN are struggling to now contain this thing is genuinely frightening.

It was ok, we Westerners thought, when it was just in Africa....

Now if it gets out we could be looking at the black fucking death.

It`s horrifying. I really dont fancy dying with my major organs squirting out my arse.



Could be worse.

Someone else's organ squir.... never mind.
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It is now being reported that the man who died at the airport on Nigeria, was en route home to the US when he collapsed between his connecting flights.
 
I'll show my ignorance here and ask what is different here from the bird flu, swine flu, SARS, that were going to kill us all too?

Interestingly NHSScotland were to start a full scale bird flu exercise the day the real thing kicked off, I was involved.

The amount of Holy Crap exclamations from even the most chilled folk was a bit chilling.

The way that spread around the world was a real eye opener, for me - all the pro health folk expected it.

Quite simple stuff could and was done to minimise the effect of both spread and for those affected.

Despite that and the world generally being very well prepared 100s of thousands were infected in almost every country on the planet; it depends what you read but 10s of thousands probably died. Some countries were more honest than others with their recording and reporting.

Now imagine the same scenario with no effective medicines, intensive treatment needed for those infected and a 90% death rate.

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... and on a personal level a horrible death :-(
 
China ahead of the game by introducing temperature scans on all flights from Africa.