Cameron's cabinet shuffle

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BBC News - LIVE: Updates as Cameron reshuffles cabinet

Hague gone (but he is standing down next year anyway)

Clarke gone

Philip Hammond to Foreign Office...

Liam Fox looking set to return.

Looks like journalist Gove has been moved to Chief Whip to ensure press and broadcast media is dealt with by one of their own...Cameron says the move was to ensure he had "an enhanced role in campaigning and doing broadcast media interviews". Certainly looks like this is a shuffle preparing for the PR and media battle of next year?
 
Party needs some freshening up but I'm sorry to see Gove go from education where he had the right attitude a lot of the time.
 
Goves replacement voted against legalising same Sex marriage, so the person now on charge of Westminster education endorses discrimination

Vote aye ffs
 
This is very much a political reshuffle to prepare for a tight General Election next May....
 
Funny you should mention bigotry....

It's actually one of the things that makes me wary of independence - Scotland has a long tradition of righteous bigots that denounce any view other than their own, and dress the whole thing up in sanctimony. There is a horrible possibility that we may end up with a tartan tolerance camp, with denouncements distracting us from the shortcomings of reactionary economic policy.

Why must diversity of thought be eliminated? Why must celebration of the diversity of human relationships through diverse institutional celebrations, not be celebrated? Why must vibrancy be driven from Scotland?
 
southfieldhibby said:
Goves replacement voted against legalising same Sex marriage, so the person now on charge of Westminster education endorses discrimination

Vote aye ffs
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Agreed entirely! Obviously bigots in Scotland too but at least it's a start to do summit about it m8
 
egb_hibs said:
Funny you should mention bigotry....

It's actually one of the things that makes me wary of independence - Scotland has a long tradition of righteous bigots that denounce any view other than their own, and dress the whole thing up in sanctimony. There is a horrible possibility that we may end up with a tartan tolerance camp, with denouncements distracting us from the shortcomings of reactionary economic policy.

Why must diversity of thought be eliminated? Why must celebration of the diversity of human relationships through diverse institutional celebrations, not be celebrated? Why must vibrancy be driven from Scotland?
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I'm not political like you egb. started off a no vote, British (still am atm), (more the merrier n that) & 100% yes now...I'll use buckets of sand for currency if need be. Uk government wouldn't give a flying one if they didn't have anything to take from Scotland. I hope voting yes will fight fuel poverty (my line of work) coz it ain't gonna happen under them. Vote aye!
 
I'm still a yes vote s7 but am as worried by who could end up running Scotland as any shortcomings in the UK. I reckon we have at least a decade of politically backward nonsense to navigate, resulting in savage austerity, and the chances of politically correct maniacs running amok is all too real.
 
egb_hibs said:
Funny you should mention bigotry....

It's actually one of the things that makes me wary of independence - Scotland has a long tradition of righteous bigots that denounce any view other than their own, and dress the whole thing up in sanctimony. There is a horrible possibility that we may end up with a tartan tolerance camp, with denouncements distracting us from the shortcomings of reactionary economic policy.

Why must diversity of thought be eliminated? Why must celebration of the diversity of human relationships through diverse institutional celebrations, not be celebrated? Why must vibrancy be driven from Scotland?
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Lets not muddy the waters here.I was referring specifically to the lassie who voted against same sex marriages, which to the majority of folk ( who aren't ran by their church, as she pretty much admitted) is perfectly acceptable in modern society.And indeed why must diversity be eliminated, ask her.Defend/justify her if you feel the need, most of us will laugh and point at you for being a dumbo.
 
Sorry that's all over the place, with another dollop of bigotry thrown in. 'Ran by her church' - as opposed to what? Ran by the incoherent dogma of the day, which a disappointing number of people seem to swallow whole at the command of the establishment and their mouthpieces?

What is diverse about forcing everything to be the same - these are direct opposites. 70 years after George Orwell pointed it out it seems doublethink is alive and well.

Go ahead and split your sides; given that the erosion of marriage and the economic dependency system it produces, cements in place the system and ruling class whose tune you obediently march to - the joke really is on you.
 
egb_hibs said:
Sorry that's all over the place, with another dollop of bigotry thrown in. 'Ran by her church' - as opposed to what? Ran by the incoherent dogma of the day, which a disappointing number of people seem to swallow whole at the command of the establishment and their mouthpieces?

What is diverse about forcing everything to be the same - these are direct opposites. 70 years after George Orwell pointed it out it seems doublethink is alive and well.

Go ahead and split your sides; given that the erosion of marriage and the economic dependency system it produces, cements in place the system and ruling class whose tune you obediently march to - the joke really is on you.
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I'm comfortable to be bigoted against folk who refuse to accept same sex marriages and I'd rather make up my own mind on stuff over what some kind of cult wants me to think.I'm not wanting to force everyone to be the same-precisely the opposite-if someone wants to marry someone of the same sex crack on.It's the woman you defend that wants everything just as your god said.

And gies peace using George Orwell,you're not doing your RPR.
 
S - this women you speak of is presumably influenced by her religious views, understands the arguments against them and challenged to them. You, meanwhile, don't seem to recognise that your ideals here are absolutely religious in quality and specifically so in origin. Your totems of equality and discrimination - whatever you actually mean by these increasingly meaningless terms - have no other basis. One might compare her position and yours as the difference between faith and blind faith.

By the way, bigotry is not 'what you disagree with' - indeed seeing things that way is a better definition of bigotry. Suffice to say there is nothing bigoted about defending the universal understanding of marriage from zealots who cannot tolerate anything or anyone being different or distinct.

And with that I'm leaving it - this has been done to death and it's too sunny (at least where I am lol - hope it is where you are)
 
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