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Alberta Hibee

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10 dead,in total so far, 2 of the dead found at a residence, 6 at the school died , 25 injured, the shooter killed themselves.
Police aren't really saying much at the moment. Stories are it was a brown haired "woman" in a dress, could have been a man, no word of the weapon used, no word on the two people at the residence, I'm assuming it was the person's parents . Scary and sad day today for the Tumbler Ridge area.
 
Alberta Hibee said:
10 dead,in total so far, 2 of the dead found at a residence, 6 at the school died , 25 injured, the shooter killed themselves.
Police aren't really saying much at the moment. Stories are it was a brown haired "woman" in a dress, could have been a man, no word of the weapon used, no word on the two people at the residence, I'm assuming it was the person's parents . Scary and sad day today for the Tumbler Ridge area.
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Another gun tragedy despite gun ownership significantly more regulated than in the US. If it was a woman perpetrator that in itself is not just uncommon but miniscule. Bless the kids and anyone else.

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Very sad. I lived in Langley, BC for a couple years before coming home. Canadians some of the politest people you can meet, ae. Where are you based Alberta Hibee?
 
Facebook had his name everywhere today and what family members he murdered, the cops nope not a thing until not that long ago. Even then things are coming to light. Guns taken from the house last year, had to give them back because they appealled it was unfair. Mental health issues, in hindsight a disaster waiting to happen and unfortunately these kids took the brunt of it.
 
Alberta Hibee said:
Facebook had his name everywhere today and what family members he murdered, the cops nope not a thing until not that long ago. Even then things are coming to light. Guns taken from the house last year, had to give them back because they appealled it was unfair. Mental health issues, in hindsight a disaster waiting to happen and unfortunately these kids took the brunt of it.
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Are you this perplexed about why the police have to be more careful than lunatics on Facebook?!
 
dryan said:
Are you this perplexed about why the police have to be more careful than lunatics on Facebook?!
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Actually one of your so called lunatics was a father of two children in the school who told everyone who the shooter was.Before the police decided to go public.
Everyone has opinions there is a lot more going on in this unfortunate incident, a lot more to be told.
 
Alberta Hibee said:
Actually one of your so called lunatics was a father of two children in the school who told everyone who the shooter was.Before the police decided to go public.
Everyone has opinions there is a lot more going on in this unfortunate incident, a lot more to be told.
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I presume Police cannot release names until next of kin have been officially told?

I see the perpetrator killed his mother and step brother which would suggest he had a father somewhere. He'd need to be informed no?

Folk on faceplook have no such concerns.
 
If you look at how many mass killing have taken place in US over last 5 years.
About 70% were Transvestites.

A crazy statistics that shows how warped the education system has made people.
 
Ryan69 said:
If you look at how many mass killing have taken place in US over last 5 years.
About 70% were Transvestites.

A crazy statistics that shows how warped the education system has made people.
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Mental eh Ryan? The other stat i thought was crazy too was that in over 73.6% of those mass shootings, the transvestites had used a home-made gun, actually made from the penis they'd had chopped off and then 3D printed. Warped indeed.
 
Ryan69 said:
If you look at how many mass killing have taken place in US over last 5 years.
About 70% were Transvestites.

A crazy statistics that shows how warped the education system has made people.
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Did you read that once and just believe it?
 
Keepitgreen said:
Mental eh Ryan? The other stat i thought was crazy too was that in over 73.6% of those mass shootings, the transvestites had used a home-made gun, actually made from the penis they'd had chopped off and then 3D printed. Warped indeed.
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Don't fall for Ryan's nonsense. It's transexuals not transvestites.
Also your facts are way off. It's 76.3% 😉
 
Hammi said:
Did you read that once and just believe it?
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Its typical Ryan bs, although the ratio is high. Getting a fix on it is difficult, not least due to those other great bullshitters, 'fact checkers'. This is actually a great example of how they operate when an agenda item is in play.

2 mins on Google will find umpteen examples of them debunking claims of trans people being over represented among mass shooters.

And that's true. Except the vast majority of mass shootings are gang related and involve dudes spraying bullets at each other in night clubs and on street corners. These incidents are also: a) behind the stat that America has hunners of mass shootings a year and also b) low fatality ratio compared to...

... this kind of thing : bams going postal in schools / workplaces etc and usually ending in shooter suicide / suicide by cop.

These are simply different phenomena and while fact checkers and the media are keen to make such distinctions when doing things such as attributing the latter as a white phenomenon (if they treated it as they do the trans question, blacks would be massively over represented), they are less keen to do so here.

As I say it's tricky to cut through the propaganda on both sides to get a read on this and I'm not going to quote stats as a result. Anyone interested can google and see what they think - however in this category it appears to me that trans shooters are very substantially over represented.
 
Charlie Kirk was in the middle of making such a distinction when he was shot, incidentally. A trans ideologue (though not himself trans) shot him dead before he got to give his figures.
 
Bangkokhibby said:
Perhaps he meant amongst the dead 🤷 Probably still bullshit.
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The 'trans genocide' is in fact another example of the way selective facts are used to craft narratives.

They do suffer high rates of homicide, but breakdowns I have seen - and again these won't be emblazoned across the msm / activist media - suggest that those are overwhelmingly either a) in the course of sex work and / or b) perpetrated by other members of the lgbtq+ community.
 
Cavalier said:
I presume Police cannot release names until next of kin have been officially told?

I see the perpetrator killed his mother and step brother which would suggest he had a father somewhere. He'd need to be informed no?

Folk on faceplook have no such concerns.
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I think people complaining about the BBC and Sky News need to take a step back. They only can report what the cops are telling them if they don't have someone on the ground. Having said that, the cops initial wording was very odd.

Unsurprisingly social media exploded with, it turns out, largely accurate information. But not completely. I read reports he had killed his parents which wasn't right. I also saw apparent photos of the killer, which were disputed.

Social media posters aren't always right. Look at Southport. But any delay in information release does feed the 'what aren't they telling us narrative '. And as we can see in Southport that is very potent and very dangerous.
 
Archie said:
I think people complaining about the BBC and Sky News need to take a step back. They only can report what the cops are telling them if they don't have someone on the ground. Having said that, the cops initial wording was very odd.

Unsurprisingly social media exploded with, it turns out, largely accurate information. But not completely. I read reports he had killed his parents which wasn't right. I also saw apparent photos of the killer, which were disputed.

Social media posters aren't always right. Look at Southport. But any delay in information release does feed the 'what aren't they telling us narrative '. And as we can see in Southport that is very potent and very dangerous.
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Literally noone has complained about the BBC or Sky News.

Their choice to tell the truth or not doesn't come into it until law enforcement decide to.

Perhaps step back and read the thread?
 
Keepitgreen said:
Everything I'm finding on this indicates they're not. How are you defining the 'category' exactly?
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I expect you're hard to the task KiGers.

I'm not defining it exactly, but I am talking, like I said, about these school or workplace shooter scenarios. Perhaps specifically school shootings in this case, I'd guess. I'll call them 'columbine type shooters' to convey what I assume is a commonly understood phenomenon even if it's hard to find it scientifically defined.

You'll have to put the work in as you are not going to get the media helping you out here, indeed quite the opposite. But for example you could count the number of mass shootings at US and Canadian schools (mass shooting is generally defined as 4 or more wounded or killed) during the 2020s

Here


And here

List of school shootings in Canada - Wikipedia

en.wikipedia.org en.wikipedia.org

I make it 41, though manual counting is required and that may be a little out doing it on my tablet screen.

If we take general estimates of trans population share as 0.5% or even the incredible 3.3% figure among US youth subjected to indoctrination, we would expect ~0.2 or ~1.4% of the shooters to be trans.

Infamous figures like Robin Westman, Audrey Hale and this latest, account for 7% on their own. So on that alone a massive overrepresentation.

And there are more cases than that.

And the number of 'school shooters' of this 'columbine type' is much fewer than 41 in the period - many of the school shootings listed are themselves gang shootings based on thumbnail description.

I've seen estimates with explanation, up at 25% for the 'columbine type' in recent years, but the above is based on data from a well established - though far from infallible - source.

As I said initially you won't get this pre prepared for you indeed quite the opposite. I have already explained what is wrong with your typical fact checker cover up.

My hunch is that trans is a red herring here and actually made so by the woke Voodoo of our day. The real pattern in these cases is autism and alienation. But this correlates massively with youth trans identification. Sadly we are discouraged from understanding that and seeing it as the flag it is, which ironically gives rise to this discussion of trans shooters as if the latter actually were some other sex based category.
 
Ps KiG if we were to take trans rhetoric at its word, trans 'columbine types' account for a massive ratio of all female perpetrators. And indeed among female shooters generally.

I humbly suggest that we should not indulge manifestly male pathologies in this way, but you may disagree.
 
egb_hibs said:
I expect you're hard to the task KiGers.
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What can I say. Your right-wing propaganda gets the juices flowing!
egb_hibs said:
I'm not defining it exactly
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Well that's normally a bit of an issue when you're trying to declare facts within it, no?

Defining even what's classed as a transgender person is another issue too. Yer Robin Westman you mentioned for example, changed their name a few years prior but had actually been disillusioned with transidentity, never consistently ID'd as trans, and had never actually had any meds or treatement etc.

As for mass shootings defined in their historical, long-standing sense, this has a stab at it; strips out gang-related stuff later down the page and finds the percentage at 0.5% before this new one:

www.factcheck.org

Few Mass Shooters Have Been Transgender - FactCheck.org

Q: Have many of the mass shooters been transgender? A: The number of transgender mass shooters in the U.S. varies depending on how “mass shooting” is defined, but is relatively small. The Gun Violence Archive, which uses a broader definition, lists five mass shootings by transgender or...
www.factcheck.org www.factcheck.org
egb_hibs said:
your typical fact checker cover up
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Hmm, calm down qanon ;))

Seriously though, what would be the motive of said cover-upperers to not try and identify common themes amongst mass shooters?

I ask as its easy to identify the motives behind right-wingers who want to exaggerate the instances of transgender folks in these incidents.
egb_hibs said:
The real pattern in these cases is autism and alienation
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Alienation - well duh. Autism - oh dear. Go for it, where does that come from?
 
egb_hibs said:
if we were to take trans rhetoric at its word, trans 'columbine types' account for a massive ratio of all female perpetrators. And indeed among female shooters generally.
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Not getting what you mean here eegie, please explain
 
Keepitgreen said:
Not getting what you mean here eegie, please explain
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If one accepts that trans women are women, then they contribute a massive proportion of shootings perpetrated by women. As well as rapes and other violence perpetrated by women.
 
egb_hibs said:
If one accepts that trans women are women, then they contribute a massive proportion of shootings perpetrated by women. As well as rapes and other violence perpetrated by women.
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haha, well, quite. Then there's no stats to discuss!
 
egb_hibs said:
My hunch is that trans is a red herring here and actually [I suspect] The real pattern in these cases is autism and alienation. But this correlates massively with youth trans identification. Sadly we are discouraged from understanding that and seeing it as the flag it is, which ironically gives rise to this discussion of trans shooters as if the latter actually were some other sex based category.
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I try to read through a lot of your lengthy posts and filter out or edit them in my mind to get to what I think are some of the very important questions you often raise.

The above is how, in my mind, I’ve taken your final paragraph and think it does raise a very important point. We’ve had mass school, college, and university shootings for many decades now - long before the number of transgender people became a significant statistic. That clearly means, as you say, transgenderism is not the underlying reason.
 
vasco de gama said:
We’ve had mass school, college, and university shootings for many decades now - long before the number of transgender people became a significant statistic. That clearly means, as you say, transgenderism is not the underlying reason.
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Agreed, and makes me wonder why this full-on analysis of what a mass shooter is made up of never seemed to interest right-wingers for all those decades, until now, with this handful of purported transgenders. It was all 'thoughts and prayers' for decades..! Got to look for motives.
 
Keepitgreen said:
Agreed, and makes me wonder why this full-on analysis of what a mass shooter is made up of never seemed to interest right-wingers for all those decades, until now, with this handful of purported transgenders. It was all 'thoughts and prayers' for decades..! Got to look for motives.
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