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Witch Hunt against St. Patrick's Branch

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Yesterday the talk of the Steamie at Starks Park was the goings on by Chairman Mike Riley and the Trustees of the Hibernian Supporters Association (HSA) with regards to talk of expulsion of St. Pat's from the HSA. Details of what has happened, as outlined to St. Pat's members, has been obtained and reproduced below to explain some of the questions asked.

A source close to the Branch said that 'I am told that the Branch Committee are furious that at a time when all Hibs Supporters should be getting behind the team and building bridges with the Club there are those who would rather conduct an ill thought out petty witch hunt.'

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A serious situation has arisen over the past period, as eluded to at our last Branch meeting. To recap for those not present, Chairperson Dougie McLeod prior to the end of business and the entrance of our two Turnbull's Tornadoes speakers that night, John Brownlie and John Blackley, informed the 50 members present of a meeting which had taken place along with Branch Secretary Gordon McKinley and the 5 Trustees of the Hibernian Supporters Association/Club a few weeks previously. The meeting was suggested by our Branch Committee in order to explain in a friendly manner the reasoning behind our proposed changes to further modernise and HSA rulebook (see attachment). This was intended to help prevent any misunderstanding at the Hibernian Supporters Association AGM, on Sunday the 5th of April.


Within a fairly short period of discussion HSA Chairperson Mike Riley was accusing our Branch of all sorts and behaving quite frankly in a manner not befitting a person in his position. At one point he reacted to the suggestion by a fellow Trustee that 'some people out there, would like St. Pat's expelled from the Association' by hissing 'and we have the f****** power to do that'. To his credit HSA Treasurer Colin Rich said they could not do that. At another point when we suggested that the right to amend HSA Rules is enshrined in the Rule book he shouted 'Democracy, I will show you f****** democracy at the AGM'. To which Dougie said that he was acting like a bully and Gordon said that neither he, Dougie nor St. Patrick's Branch members would be bullied by him. The swearing continued and Gordon asked that he refrain from doing so twice. He said that he did not have to f****** listen to this and stormed out of the meeting.


The other four Trustees did not follow him out and continued to have a calm, reasoned meeting where on some items we agreed to disagree.


Whilst we were having our very successful Branch meeting someone pointed out that the Trustees were having a meeting upstairs with the Officials of a minority of Supporters Branches at the same time as ours and of which we had neither been informed of nor invited to.


It transpired subsequently that this meeting which was purported to be to discuss St. Patrick's resolutions, however inevitably became a vehicle to discuss the apparent obsession that HSA Chairperson Mike Riley has with the possible expulsion of our Branch from the HSA. It should be remembered that at last years AGM he had to deny the accusation from a Branch member, that he had raised expulsion of St. Patrick's Branch with her and others . At their meeting they also discussed the need to take legal advice, as to whether they could actually expel us ( It seems our presence to defend any allegations, Natural Justice at Law, nor valid and sufficient reason to progress this, crossed their minds). Again a big thanks goes out to HSA Treasurer Colin Rich who had the nouse to oppose the suggestion of such calamitous action.


Whether or not this threat to our Branch's very existence transpires, I for one, knowing how much work that I and many others have put in to create our truly active Hibernian Supporters Branch, from 5 members 5 years again to our present membership of 330+ and do not propose to wait or sit back and let this happen and am sure that you will all feel the same way.



We, as you know have been working with Hibernian FC at every level we possibly can and feel that at a time when Hibs seem to be turning the corner, a Semi Final and possibly a Final within our grasp, promotion back to where we belong a real possibility and good new initiatives being introduced by the Hibernian Management, that anyone engaging in self indulgent statements, or in distractions which take away from this course of action, will not be forgiven by fellow Hibs Supporters.


We have been told that HSA Chairperson Mike Riley and cohorts are straining every sinew to mobilize as many people to attend the AGM on Sunday 5th April at 12.00 as possible. The Branch Committee ask that our members also make an almighty effort to attend this meeting, to ensure that St. Pat's survive any potential attempt at the first witch-hunt of any Branch in the history of the Hibernian Supporters Association.


With farce always comes along irony not far behind. Two weeks ago our Branch Patron and Honorary Branch member Patrick Gordon Stanton presented a gift and an Honorary Branch membership to Sammy Martinez in appreciation of the wee man's 70 years of devotion to Hibernian FC. If some folk have their way the oldest living Hibernian Supporter could become the shortest lived Honorary member!!
 

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ST PATS is a fantastic branch , and like the BOUNCE , HSA seem to have any issues with both bodies . dontmknow why ?

Mike Riley ? Don't speak for me . maybe the HSA should embrace the sterling work St. Pats do .... Or is that the issue :detective:
 

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Problems and issues should aired at public meetings not ad hoc coalitions. Whatever the problems Mike Reilly has shown time and again that he is out of step with most of the supporters and does not speak for the Hibs support. Time to have someone who is in tune with the many voices amongst the support.

i'm not a member of the St. Patricks branch but I admire the work they have done so far.
 

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I cant see why anybody would want St Patrick's Branch kicked out of the HSA we have done nothing wrong . We are an ambitious branch and only want stronger links between the HSA & Hibernian FC .
 

Tatie

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Problems and issues should aired at public meetings not ad hoc coalitions. Whatever the problems Mike Reilly has shown time and again that he is out of step with most of the supporters and does not speak for the Hibs support. Time to have someone who is in tune with the many voices amongst the support.

i'm not a member of the St. Patricks branch but I admire the work they have done so far.
I'm no a member either mate but have followed the goals they have achieved with interest . have travelled on St.pats bus , met G a couple o times and myself and ma wee nephew were made very welcome . don't know the politics of what's going on BUT ,what's not to like about St.pats . ? :dunno:
 

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Bullying Tactics as I read it. Wont be tolerated by any Hibs Supporter. :read:
 

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I'm glad this has finally made its way onto a public forum. The behaviour of some of those elected to serve us, the Hibs support, has been nothing short of disgraceful. The club and branch were founded to erradicate bullying but now the very existence of one of the most progressive/democractic branches is in danger..? You couldn't make it up.
 

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What's the membership overall of the Hibs club and what is the membership of St pats?
 

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What's the membership overall of the Hibs club and what is the membership of St pats?
I think about 1500. With almost 340 members St.Pat's is possibly the largest Branch now Bobby.

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Bullying Tactics as I read it. Wont be tolerated by any Hibs Supporter. :read:
Spot on Kenny.

[video=youtube;K6P7g_qz2OU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6P7g_qz2OU[/video]

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ST PATS is a fantastic branch , and like the BOUNCE , HSA seem to have any issues with both bodies . dontmknow why ?

Mike Riley ? Don't speak for me . maybe the HSA should embrace the sterling work St. Pats do .... Or is that the issue :detective:
I can understand why some people/ or a body may have trouble with the Bounce.

Its democratic,& that can cause problems for those with dictatorial tendencies (see other sites).

As for St Pats branch, from what I read on here & its own site, I fail to see why anyone could have a problem with the work it has done, or the people running the branch.

But as the line from the film goes'you're never sure when some arse hole is going to take exception'
 

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I think about 1500. With almost 340 members St.Pat's is possibly the largest Branch now Bobby.

GGTTH

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Spot on Kenny.

[video=youtube;K6P7g_qz2OU]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K6P7g_qz2OU[/video]

BIG G
Thanks G - I didn't realise quite how significant St pats were now which is probably implied criticism of how the club has been run over the years.
 

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When Riley was first elected as chairman,it took three very dubious counts to elect him that day,from a hall of complete strangers,there were rumours that he had arranged taxis to drum up support,half the hall left when he was elected.I have been a member of the HSA for over 30 years and i can count on one hand how many times i have been back since he's been chairman,he runs the club as if it his own pub,hang tight guys St.Pats will be there long after he is gone.Stanton branch member.
 

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This is Fans News' first post on the Bounce, We normally don't get involved with the obvious politics that surrounds the HSA and it's members as we are not an "official" fans group, but with 4.8 thousand members I can say with almost complete confidence that there is growing concern over the antics and behaviour of Mr Riley.

I have sat in several meetings and heard St Paddys branch discuss their ideas and their accomplishments. I don't know the members personally but I can say we are very impressed with the achievements that the group have delivered on behalf of the fans.

The branch has our full support and anything we can do to help communicate the issue to the fans will be provided on request. Please contact us via Facebook or Twitter if we can be of assistance.

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Welcome to the Bounce.

Just a heads up. Your first couple of posts are moderated to stop gunts ans spammers. :thumbgrin
 

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I can understand why some people/ or a body may have trouble with the Bounce.

Its democratic,& that can cause problems for those with dictatorial tendencies (see other sites).

As for St Pats branch, from what I read on here & its own site, I fail to see why anyone could have a problem with the work it has done, or the people running the branch.

But as the line from the film goes'you're never sure when some arse hole is going to take exception'
i strongly suspect this is the case, especially the 'dictatorial tendencies'. I admit to knowing next to zero about Mike Reilly apart from reading he has a tendency to make statement's 'on behalf of the Hibs-supporters' without actually consulting anyone - unless it's his own inner-circle.
 

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When Riley was first elected as chairman,it took three very dubious counts to elect him that day,from a hall of complete strangers,there were rumours that he had arranged taxis to drum up support,half the hall left when he was elected.I have been a member of the HSA for over 30 years and i can count on one hand how many times i have been back since he's been chairman,he runs the club as if it his own pub,hang tight guys St.Pats will be there long after he is gone.Stanton branch member.
The AGM is sunday 5th april 12 noon. Aye easter sunday, wonder if mr riley thinks easter sunday will effect the st pats members.

I'll be there bandit

Stanton Branch? Nice one, please come along in support of st pats.

Can anyone call for vote of no confidence against mr riley?

He seems to have upset lots fellow hibbys.

He seems to have a grudge agaisnt st pats? He keeps rabbiting on no members use the club on non match days.

The attendance in the hsc is dire with not many branches if any having a high midweek presence.

He needs to understand the club isnae that easy to get too. And no one can drink drive now :lookaround:
 

KevinMartin

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I can't understand why anyone would have issues with a branch who are getting new members to the HSA and are actually encouraging supporters to join a supporters club. Like the way they have regular meetings with guests.

Surely doesn't matter what branch you are in, we are all Hibs supporters after all.
 

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Welcome to the Bounce.

Just a heads up. Your first couple of posts are moderated to stop gunts ans spammers. :thumbgrin

Thanks for the welcome... And the heads up. Hope you will allow us to share our media on your forums (After moderation of course)... For example..

One huge positive to come from yesterday was the return of Hibs number 9..... FARID EL ALAGUI....


Please enjoy a short tribute to his return....


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Sounds like a bit of Machiavellianism* has crept in to the HSA.


*Aye, fcukin google it mate.
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I remember the Pentland Branch was subject to a bit of grief in days of yore, although to be fair it was a bunch full of mentalists and more often than not returned from away games missing a few stalwarts who had misbehaved in some way or other.

I'm at a loss as to what the St P's have done to incur the wrath of Mr Riley - surely it's not simply that the Branch is made up of in the main 'out of towners' who don't frequent the premises midweek, or don't spend a lot at the bar due to driving?

We need to be told.
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