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I'd like Scotland to be an independent republic. Is there any party that will make this happen?
Not yet, lets get over the line first.
 

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I'd like Scotland to be an independent republic. Is there any party that will make this happen?
None as far as I can see.

Whats on offer is Independence via SNP or Greens and then another referendum further down the line as to whether a Queen/King should be the ceremonial heid bummer.
 

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Which is why the SNP have always been my choice then we could maybe get down to business.
My thoughts exactly.
 

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Like most of my family have not voted Labour since 1997 and never will again. SNP member until such time independence is delivered, what an opportunity passed up in 2014.
 

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If it hasn't been clear from my posts, I'm a Socialist and a Marxist. I don't think Corbyn is left wing enough for me! I despise the Tories and Capitalism. Sorry I love Scotland, but am not a nationalist. I believe in revolution, where Capitalism is overthrown. Most of my family are not political, but definitely working class. There is a huge Socialist tradition in Scotland, but then the same can be said about Geordies, Scousers, Mancs
 
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So many Labour Hibbies here. I was just out for a faaaaaaag and I was humming the Red Flag for no good reason!

Then I vaguely remembered there was a Hibs song to the same tune and a green flag. So I might have been humming that or a Christmas tune!

Am I going nuts?

Or does anyone remember the Hibs version?
 

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So many Labour Hibbies here. I was just out for a faaaaaaag and I was humming the Red Flag for no good reason!

Then I vaguely remembered there was a Hibs song to the same tune and a green flag. So I might have been humming that or a Christmas tune!

Am I going nuts?

Or does anyone remember the Hibs version?
Really lots? Labour are a busted flush only independence could make them relevant again. Maybe they should support it rather than siding with the Tories!
 

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Really lots? Labour are a busted flush only independence could make them relevant again. Maybe they should support it rather than siding with the Tories!
Yeah lots, just look at this thread! And almost all the SNP folk are former Labour voters.
I'd love Labour to get over their hatred of the SNP because they're not going to make any inroads anytime soon and a pound to a penny says they'll need a Scottish backup to govern in these modern times, assuming that is what they want rather than being a party of permanent protest.

Anyway di ye ken the tune? More importantly the words?
 

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Yeah lots, just look at this thread! And almost all the SNP folk are former Labour voters.
I'd love Labour to get over their hatred of the SNP because they're not going to make any inroads anytime soon and a pound to a penny says they'll need a Scottish backup to govern in these modern times, assuming that is what they want rather than being a party of permanent protest.

Anyway di ye ken the tune? More importantly the words?
The one I know is forever and ever we’ll follow the boys the embra hibess the timaloys and not being mastered by no orange bastards etc and keeping the green flag flying.
 

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The one I know is forever and ever we’ll follow the boys the embra hibess the timaloys and not being mastered by no orange bastards etc and keeping the green flag flying.
That's it!
Canny see it going down too well these days, maybe needs a makeover.
 

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None as far as I can see.

Whats on offer is Independence via SNP or Greens and then another referendum further down the line as to whether a Queen/King should be the ceremonial heid bummer.
Do not kid yourself amigo the SNP have declared that her Majesty or Bonnie Prince Charlie will be the regal knobs in an Independent Scotland to placate the sectarian mob. Pretty pathetic in my opinion.
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Do not kid yourself amigo the SNP have declared that her Majesty or Bonnie Prince Charlie will be the regal knobs in an Independent Scotland to placate the sectarian mob. Pretty pathetic in my opinion.
BIG G
I think you are exactly right as thats the initial plan and then the people of Scotland then have the choice to ditch the "regal knobs" further down the line.

It does seem quite a practical policy and a more likely way to rid Scotland of "regal knobs" sooner rather than later as the sensible majority of the Scottish electorate will override the wee pockets of hate or elite priveledge that still exist in Scottish society and help dilute both their awful cultures still further which must make Scotland a happier, less divisive and therefore a better and more tolerant country.

Scottish society then moves on to a meritocracy with a head of state we actually elect just like any normal European country rather than this undercurrent of tugging the forelock.

Even for a party representing British Unionism there used to be a strong positive republican tinge to the Labour party in Scotland and Labour movement such as Willie Hamilton and Mick Mcgahey.

All that seems long gone swept away by such a strong monarchist as Blair and the huge pay offs now available in the House of Lords for Scottish Labour party retirees as Life peers.

Lord McConnell of GlenScorrodale (Wee Union Jack), Lord Watson of Invergowrie (Mike the Firestarter, twisted firestarter), Lord Brown of Ladyton (Des to his mates), Baroness Liddell of Coatdyke (Oor wee Helen), Baron Foulkes of Cummnock (George the Jambo pish slaverer), Baron Darling of Roulanish (Alistair the Red via Loretto) and many more besides understand exactly what Scottish Labour party MP's and MSP's need to do in order to keep themselves in the land of milk and honey and there sure ain't any sop to republicinism these days.
 
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Do not kid yourself amigo the SNP have declared that her Majesty or Bonnie Prince Charlie will be the regal knobs in an Independent Scotland to placate the sectarian mob. Pretty pathetic in my opinion.
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Do not kid yourself amigo the SNP have declared that her Majesty or Bonnie Prince Charlie will be the regal knobs in an Independent Scotland to placate the sectarian mob. Pretty pathetic in my opinion.
BIG G
More than one stage to any revolution.
 

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Scottish independance supporter, probably leaning to the left.
I really can't get my head around people in Scotland happy to be ruled by the Westminster elite.
Forever we will be known as the generation that shat it .
 

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Do not kid yourself amigo the SNP have declared that her Majesty or Bonnie Prince Charlie will be the regal knobs in an Independent Scotland to placate the sectarian mob. Pretty pathetic in my opinion.
BIG G
Corbyn gonnae bin them in the new socialist republic, like?
 

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I think you are exactly right as thats the initial plan and then the people of Scotland then have the choice to ditch the "regal knobs" further down the line.

It does seem quite a practical policy and a more likely way to rid Scotland of "regal knobs" sooner rather than later as the sensible majority of the Scottish electorate will override the wee pockets of hate or elite priveledge that still exist in Scottish society and help dilute both their awful cultures still further which must make Scotland a happier, less divisive and therefore a better and more tolerant country.

Scottish society then moves on to a meritocracy with a head of state we actually elect just like any normal European country rather than this undercurrent of tugging the forelock.

Even for a party representing British Unionism there used to be a strong positive republican tinge to the Labour party in Scotland and Labour movement such as Willie Hamilton and Mick Mcgahey.

All that seems long gone swept away by such a strong monarchist as Blair and the huge pay offs now available in the House of Lords for Scottish Labour party retirees as Life peers.

Lord McConnell of GlenScorrodale (Wee Union Jack), Lord Watson of Invergowrie (Mike the Firestarter, twisted firestarter), Lord Brown of Ladyton (Des to his mates), Baroness Liddell of Coatdyke (Oor wee Helen), Baron Foulkes of Cummnock (George the Jambo pish slaverer), Baron Darling of Roulanish (Alistair the Red via Loretto) and many more besides understand exactly what Scottish Labour party MP's and MSP's need to do in order to keep themselves in the land of milk and honey and there sure ain't any sop to republicinism these days.
Blairites to a man and woman. Looking forward to madatory reselection so their kindred spirit in the Parliamentary Labour Party and Scottish Parliament can be replaced by Socialists. Abolishment of the anachronism of the unelected House of Lords would be another step on the right direction.

BIG G
 

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A mix of Gramsci, Luxemburg and Connolly, with a touch of Lukacs, Lenin and Trotsky.Sort of Kollontai with a touch of Radek.
 

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I'm Clara Zetkinist.
 

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