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RF dropped a bomb on a school in Bilohorivka where almost the entire village was sheltering. There were about 90 people in the school, thirty so far have been pulled out alive.

Two days away from when Russians celebrate the defeat of Nazism they continue to send Missiles into Ukranian cities, towns and villages, caring nothing for the people they claim to wish to liberate, destroying architecture, infrastructure and food supplies. 200 cultural heritage sites have been destroyed or damaged.

All citizens are now out the steelworks but medics and injured have not been evacuated and there are still troops fighting from within

Podoliak stated that Kherson will be liberated from Russians as harshy as possible. As many Russian servicemen killed as needed in order to forget about thoughts of Russian occupation

The Mayor of Warsaw dismissed requests from the Russian embassy to hold victory day parades in honour of Russia on the 9th. He said I am opposed to the festival of the aggressor

Lithuania delivered humanitarian aid to Moldova and offered to re-settle 2000 Moldovans to Lithuania (those fleeing the Transnistria region.

According to Turkey's ruling justice and development party and ex-prime minister Binali Yildirim, the Black sea has enough natural gas to cover the world's demands for 45 years


Chinese IT companies, Lenova and Xiaomi stop working in Russia

Poland signed the largest drone contract in it's history to stock up hundreds

Ukraine is restricting exports of buckwheat, rice and oats to avoid shortages in Ukraine

The Krasnoyarsk territoru in Russia continues to burn (forest fires) because there is noplanes toput the fires out. 16 settlements and 484 buildings have been damaged whilst Russia spends $900m a day on the war (estimate from military publication Sofrep)

On Russian TV they were discussing the potential killing of 2m Ukranians. The talk was of denazifying Ukraine and that at leat 5% will always be Nazis so need to be killed.....and they don't get the irony of victory day!!!

Russia today lost at least

27 tanks
20 combat armed vehicles
11 infantry fighting vehicles
5armoured vehicles/personnel carriers
1 special engineering equipment
6 cars
4 light armoured towing vehicles
5 artillery towing tractors
1 attack helicopter Mi-28N
7 drones

Volunteer pilots deliver medicines and aid to Ukraine and pay for most of it by themselves

Ukraine is likely to win a song for Europe this year

Russia is withdrawing it's troops from Syria to shore up losses in Ukraine. ISIS appear to be ready to walk into them

In the occupied region of Yasinovataya Donetsk, UF destroyed railway infrastructure which RF were using to bring supplies to the forward lines

In the South Buh (g) direction RF suffered losses and around 100 fighters were found injured
 

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The 'between Liberal and Socialist,' is quote by the Leader of the ruling Servant of The People Party, named after a popular TV series.
In my opinion it is neither Liberal nor Socialist by any stretch of the imagination.
For anyone interested in a balanced analysis of what is really going on and why, far from MSM garbage about imminent invasion.


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I absolutely fail to understand why you you think that news outlet is any more or less reliable than any other.
The reason for this very thread they got wrong, " russia won't invade Ukraine "
Its true what they say, ingrained ideology won't be altered by the facts.
 

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The advisor to the head of the ministry of internal affairs stated that the fate of the Crimean bridge has been decided, and whenever Ukraine get the opportunity they will destroy it. Presumably Ukraine have given up trying to hold onto Crimea and have decided Russia will not have access through the Eastern territories to Crimea, not bring weapons that way.

The morale and psychological state of many Russian soldiers remains low with alcohol and desertion being noted

Despite this RF have made some gains and continue to strengthen positions including taking Popasnaya, however UF say that there is nothing left of the village and retreated to more secure locations

3 rockets fired from the Black sea resulted in one being shot down and the other two landing on recreation areas in Odessa

G7 countries vowed to continue supporting Ukraine with military and financial aid as well as block propoganda and increase sanctions

Of the 3 patrol boats destroyed yesterday, one is reckoned to be 001 which Putin used for ceremonial processions


RF destroyed the St George's Hermitage of the Holy Dormition Svyatogorsk Church (Ukranian Orthodox)
The mayor of Melitopol warns RF are planning to shoot some citizens of Melitopol and blame it on UF

Russia is again trying to sell stolen grain and some countries are lining up to buy it. Lat week a ship carrying grain was held up in Egypt as workers refused to allow it to dock after an appeal by Ukraine, it was later trying to dock in the Lebanon. RF had also blocked four Ukranian ships from leaving the Black sea to Egypt

The EU still do not agree on further sanctions with Hungary disagreeing

Bulgaria also think the west should not be arming Ukraine

Portugal are sending 15 M113A armoured personnel carriers and five towed howitzers

American M777 howitzers and Australian Bushmaster armoured vehicles arrived in Ukraine.

Google have started blocking the accounts of state Duma deputies

In Berlin the Police confiscated a Ukranian flag as they have banned the demonstration f both Ukranian and RF symbols

Azov fighters still have ammunition and continue to fight. However there can be no military solution at the moment from Ukraine and Arestovich responded quite forcefully that he is not happy with people who keep raising the subject with the President's office as he has friends and relatives in Mariupol and is not happy at accusations aimed at the President. It is not clear if he means civilians, media or perhaps Azov leaders, but they also stated how much they have defended Mariupol destroying vast quantities of equipment and personnel of the Russians but felt let down that they had no air support in the early days and that bureaucrats and politicians were arguing and saying there would be no invasion when it was clear there would be. He also hinted that some were not exactly against RF. He also stated that the commander of the Marines had tried to flee Mariupol with some marines in a jeep but were captured..I had wondered why we had not heard from him for some time.
Arestovich also said if the promised weapons and ammunition do not arrive soon, it may give Russia the impetus to try again attacking Kiev, Sumy and Kharkov as covert mobilisation was underway.
 

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Top Russian officials and businessmen appear to be dying mysteriously according to Russian media. The former top manager of Lukoil went to a Shamen for help for a hangover. He was given Corvalol drops and put in a basement where he died.

Multimillionaire Sergei Protosenya, ex-dep head of Novatek was found hanged in Spain with his wife and daughter.

Vladislav Avaev, former vice-president of Gazprombank and ex-Kremlin official was found dead in Moscow a few days ago.

Aleksandr Tulyakov, a top security manager at Gazprom was found hanged the day after Russia's invasion

Leonid Shulman, head of transport department at Gazprom...no details of death

In Belogorivka where the school was bombed, the village population was only around 800 people. Around 90 people were sheltering in the school with around 60 dying, a huge percentage of the village. RF knew the villagers were there as they had moved there from the local house ofd culture which was bombed while they had been there and forced them to move to the school.

Too many people in Luhansk did not heed the evacuation warnings and now it may be too late to evacuate.

Russia's victory parade contained some antiquated trucks and tanks today and they could not get the doomsday plane up due to a malfunction. There was no jets either as they were concerned about attacks from Ukranian anti-aircraft weapons.

For the first time RF used X-22 missiles, indicating they may have almost ran out of Caliber and Iskander missiles. The X-22s can be loaded with 1 ton warheads

Forest fires in Kherson cannot be put out because of RF impeding emergency services. An oil plant has also been burning for 2 days

RF disfigured the alley of heroes of independent Ukraine in Kherson and put up figures of their own. There are no visitors other than actors, media and performers brought from Crimea

Lukashenko spoke some garbage but he isn't worth the typing space

A Kharkiv volunteer bakes bread for the military and disabled every day and prepares hot meals. 20 year old Dmitry Zhukov did not leave his home town preferring to offer his services in this way.

RF Place their MLRS in residential areas to dissuade attacks by UF

Every year in Russia photos of peoples grandads from the war are put on placards to carry to the parades, later in the day they are thrown in the garbage

The bodies of three more civilians shot in the head were found in the Kiev region

It is rumoured a chemical attack on Azovstal steel works will take place on the 11thto try and smoke Azov troops out. Locals have been told to stay indoors

RF continued ground attacks moving towards the border of Luhansk and Donetsk regions

7 carriers of sea based cruise missiles with a total salvo of 50 each are reported to be in the Black sea

RF seperated a Mother from her 4 year old child during the evacuation of Avostol, the Mother was taken to occupied zones

Near Lysychansk there are fights on the territory of Belogorivka, UF are cleaning up RF troops seperated from their main army after UF destroyed a pontoon bridge and they are now stranded on the Ukranian side.


An evacuation convoy from Melitopol to Zaporizhzhia was shelled, even though the convoy had woman children and elderely...the Russians really are sick people.

Arounf 60% of the residents of Melitopol have left. Where are all these Ukranians that are waiting to ve saved by Russia??

Ukraine is exporting it's produce through Romania whilst 25 million tons of grain are wasting away in Odessa

In Irpin which was previously occupied, the area has now been checked for unexploded shells and mines, hundres of unexploded shells are being made safe.

German chancellor Olaf Scholz says Putin leaves Germany no option but to supply weapons to Ukraine

The council of Europe became the first organisation to expel Russia

In Borova RF are retreating fast, it is reckoned they are cut off from food supplies. They are leaving a large amount of manpower and equipment. Troops have been seen catching farm anilmals and stealing food from locals

EU plan to drop a ban on oil tankers from Russia, mostly due to Greece, Czech rep and Hungary's objections

Four more settlements around Kharkiv where liberated.

75 days of resistance in Azovstal

A cringeworthy video celebrating Russian victories has been made showing a toddler dressed like a soldier, cheerleader woman also dressed in military gear waving guns around and a pole dancer...


Biden signed a land-lease agreement with Ukraine which will make it easier to supply weapons


Hypocracy on a huge scale where Russians celebrated the defeat of Nazi Germany in Mariupol where 90% of the city has been razed to the ground


Vostok operation group reported hitting

13 Tanks
1 Armoured personnel carrier
10 Infantry fighting vehicles
1 self propelled gun
2 mortars
6 ATT
1 UAV

Joint operation zone reports

9 Tanks
3 Artillery systems
23 combat armoured vehicles
3 units of special equipment
3 vehicles
1 Orlan UAV



Jeremy Clarkston and his team from the farm donated 3 SUVs to assist evacuations

Note RF have been losing at least 20 tanks a day for the last few days...however many they have it is unlikely they can sustain these losses for too long!
 

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Daily Mirror reporting that Russian troops have been reported as turning flame throwers on each other and other troops downing tools.Similar reports could have been read during the Russo Japanese war in 1905 on the eve of the 1905 Revolution,then again in Feb 1917 on the eve of the first Revolution in 1917,don't believe the hype,the 1st World War was brought to an end by Revolution and mutiny.I'm not saying this is anything like the same scale but there are hopefull signs,also Russia's economy is nose diving.
 

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Daily Mirror reporting that Russian troops have been reported as turning flame throwers on each other and other troops downing tools.Similar reports could have been read during the Russo Japanese war in 1905 on the eve of the 1905 Revolution,then again in Feb 1917 on the eve of the first Revolution in 1917,don't believe the hype,the 1st World War was brought to an end by Revolution and mutiny.I'm not saying this is anything like the same scale but there are hopefull signs,also Russia's economy is nose diving.
We have been hearing for weeks that Russian morale is low and I think it is. But there is enough troops way off the front sending shells and missiles into towns and cities that give Ukranians little respite But troops on the front are openly defying generals and getting fed up knowing many of these generals are well behind the lines slipping their tea and vodka safe out of harms way. But unlike Ukranian generals they are not guiding and making proper thought out plans.

I reckon the war is entering another dangerous period where RF are running low on guided missiles and will use up more mortar shells and missiles that are inaccurate causing even more damage to residential areas. Ukraine on the other hand have now been promised laser guided missiles from America and asking for heavy equipment with suitable distance to make a breakthrough in Mariupol.

I honestly do not see RF make much more ground than they have till now, they will lose much of this and try and consolidate what they have.

Perhaps Ukraines problem is if they try to push further forward they will be inhibited by the lack of bridges which is causing RF supply problems right now.

When Nato cou tried go to war they set up field hospitals and canteens..Russia done none of this and troops are killing whatever animals they can find and stealing food. They are also using seized hospitals. Even armies in the 19th century planned better than this
 

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Several attempts at building and maintaining a pontoon bridge over the Siverskyi Donets river have been failing for two weeks now. RF even sand some tanks underneath the bridge so it could not be sunk, but it was again destroyed. The last crossing around 80 RF got over but then became stranded from their units and will be killed or captured. A boat and other vehicles have been destroyed whilst blowing the bridge. Arestovich said it has been tried 5-6 times but failed, it is like a new Chornobaivka (where Russians failed over 10 times to take)

Significant damage to region of Shostka after a plane fired two missiles. No casualties reported. It has been a few days since the last plane was shot down, perhaps RF are keeping thm away from known anti-aircraft batteries

Luhansk region is cut off from all communications, electricity, water and gas after RF damaged a gas line, It's repair is impossible This is the main gas pipe bringing gas to Europe from the East

WHO stops all work and co-operation with Russia

Ukranian civilian deaths will be massively higher than recorded according to Al-Jazeera

Joint forces group reported the following RF casualties today (this does not include East and South groups )

12 Tanks
4 Artillery systems
19 units of combat vehicles
2 units of special engineering equipment
7 automobiles

Air defence shot down
1 Helicopter (Mi-24)
3 Orlan-10 unmanned aerial vehicles
 
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I absolutely fail to understand why you you think that news outlet is any more or less reliable than any other.
The reason for this very thread they got wrong, " russia won't invade Ukraine "
Its true what they say, ingrained ideology won't be altered by the facts.
I was in both the Gulf skirmish of 91 and Bosnia. Reading put-aside newspapers on my return was laughable - and that was information from a 'free press' - and not just the tabloids. Every news organisation has their own agenda and not just those state controlled - look at our government and the BBC they are both an absolute joke and morally corrupt.
 
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Russia invaded the Ukraine in 2014 and Cameron was selling him weapons to help,then Cameron and the Tories switched tack and sold the same weapons to the Ukraine.Look back throught the photo stock photos everyone was being chummy with Putin from Cameron,Patel, Boris,Blair, through to Bono and Dame Maggie Smith.You'll find all the stories from the Telegraph and New Yorker, through to the Morning Star.
 

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Russian businessman Yevgeny Chichvarkin stated that Russians are leaving in order to escape the draft. He said 6m Ukranians left fleeing the country that was being bombed, destroyed, raped, smashed., but 4m Russians left their country where only 6 ammunition dumps were destroyed. People are buying documents to say they are in wheelchairs.


UF troops from Kharkiv are being moved forward towards Luhansk as they continue to drive RF away from Kahrkiv

In yet another intercepted call between an RF soldier and his wife, she is told that Ukranian children refused to draw symbols of Russia on victory day...SHE is heard to say..!I would inject them with drugs, if it worked I would look into their eyes and say "die, suffer". I would cut their penises, cut out the stars on their backs, and in general I would cut off an ear. Every day I would cut off a finger so that it would hurt them." Her husband appeared to have no answer for her and perhaps he is now wondering what he married!

Easy op-tactical group reported RF losses today as
6 Tanks
1 Infantry fighting vehicle
2 personnel carriers
2 ACVs
7 ATTs

in Donetsk and Luhansk, the following was reported
8 Tanks
6 combat vehicles
5 other vehicles
1 anti-aircraft gun
4 Orian-10 UAVs

No stats from joint command or Air defence so far
 

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Russian businessman Yevgeny Chichvarkin stated that Russians are leaving in order to escape the draft. He said 6m Ukranians left fleeing the country that was being bombed, destroyed, raped, smashed., but 4m Russians left their country where only 6 ammunition dumps were destroyed. People are buying documents to say they are in wheelchairs.


UF troops from Kharkiv are being moved forward towards Luhansk as they continue to drive RF away from Kahrkiv

In yet another intercepted call between an RF soldier and his wife, she is told that Ukranian children refused to draw symbols of Russia on victory day...SHE is heard to say..!I would inject them with drugs, if it worked I would look into their eyes and say "die, suffer". I would cut their penises, cut out the stars on their backs, and in general I would cut off an ear. Every day I would cut off a finger so that it would hurt them." Her husband appeared to have no answer for her and perhaps he is now wondering what he married!

Easy op-tactical group reported RF losses today as
6 Tanks
1 Infantry fighting vehicle
2 personnel carriers
2 ACVs
7 ATTs

in Donetsk and Luhansk, the following was reported
8 Tanks
6 combat vehicles
5 other vehicles
1 anti-aircraft gun
4 Orian-10 UAVs

No stats from joint command or Air defence so far
See BonScot64s post above.

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See BonScot64s post above.

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Why should I? What makes you so sure you are right and everyone wrong? Almost everything I gave posted has later been on the bbc.
Very little has been disputed in any magazine other than your socialist view . Plus during this war you have sat back shoving socialist ideology without a word of your own thoughts as to the raping bombing and destruction of schools, universities, hospitals and 5m displacef Ukranians. Maybe after the war you might want to visit them and tell them it was all a lie and their cities are still intact or that it was their fault anyway
 
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I have absolutely no idea what BonScott64s political views are. That's his business. All I know is that a Scottish serving soldier found on his return that reporting of the conflicts he participated in were in his words laughable.

The West and Russias propaganda machines are in frenzied overdrive.

Remember this iconic piece of global propaganda?

Robert Fisk described the event as "the most staged photo opportunity since Iwa Jima'








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This does not lessen the untold the horrors of war, any war, on people, whether civilians or armed forces.

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Why should I? What makes you so sure you are right and everyone wrong? Almost everything I gave posted has later been on the bbc.
Very little has been disputed in any magazine other than your socialist view . Plus during this war you have sat back shoving socialist ideology without a word of your own thoughts as to the raping bombing and destruction of schools, universities, hospitals and 5m displacef Ukranians. Maybe after the war you might want to visit them and tell them it was all a lie and their cities are still intact or that it was their fault anyway
Anyone who thinks they have a clear picture of what's going on in the Ukrainian battlefield at this moment is at best naive. Unless you are there, seeing things with your own eyes then take everything reported with a pinch of salt. I have no political agenda whatsoever. I was a soldier and now a nurse so you can't accuse me of being some kind of warmonger either. The truth will out eventually.
 

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What I do know is as RF pull out, images come on our sceens that don't look doctored to me

I have seen with my own eyes camera crews from NATO aligned agencies move corpses to get 'better' photographs, get the best angles to exaggerate bomb damage and use fake testimonials from civilians for money/food.
False news abounds my friend but in the UK unlike some other countries you are free to believe and promote what you wish - to a degree...
Of course there will be truths in what is being reported but since there are two sides and both cannot be right you need to appraise carefully. 👍
 

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I well remember during the Iraq war the BBC showed pictures of an oil slick with a bird struggling in it.The claim was that the Iraqi's were deliberately causing oil spillages (no doubt they were) what they didn't tell you these images were taken from the Exxon Valdez disaster footage.
 
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I well remember during the Iraq war the BBC showed pictures of an oil slick with a bird struggling in it.The claim was that the Iraqi's were deliberately causing oil spillages (no doubt they were) what they didn't tell you these images were taken from the Torre Canyon disaster footage.
I remember that. Stock footage is used by lots of news agencies - sometimes the actual event just doesn't look bad enough...
 

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I think you'll find that completely bombed to smithereens towns and villages in Ukraine can be verified as being bombed to smithereens towns and villages in Ukraine and they haven't been rearranged to make them look worse.
 
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