Ukraine.

[Davy]

Another own goal by Russia. When Ukrainian forces sent a huge flag over Donetsk with many balloons attack, RF tried shooting it down from many locations and exposed where their air defence and many other other positions were located. Ukraine targeted many of these positions and overnight blew up another huge ammunition warehouse and air defence systems

 

[HaarlemShuffler]

Another own goal by Russia. When Ukrainian forces sent a huge flag over Donetsk with many balloons attack, RF tried shooting it down from many locations and exposed where their air defence and many other other positions were located. Ukraine targeted many of these positions and overnight blew up another huge ammunition warehouse and air defence systems

What do mean by a huge flag, @Davy - or was it a typo?

 

[Davy]

What do mean by a huge flag, @Davy - or was it a typo?

Hope your not going where I think with this The troops sent up a very large Blue and Yellow flag, look it up on you tube.

 

[HaarlemShuffler]

Hope your not going where I think with this The troops sent up a very large Blue and Yellow flag, look it up on you tube.

Dunno where you feared I ws going, but thx for the explanation. Lst day of my hols and have obvs missed some news stories!

 

[hibbybilly]

Dunno where you feared I ws going, but thx for the explanation. Lst day of my hols and have obvs missed some news stories!

Hope ask went well gadgie

 

[HaarlemShuffler]

Hope ask went well gadgie

pm sent

 

[Ryan69]

I assume Geneva Convention doesn't apply to Nazis.

 

[Davy]

I assume Geneva Convention doesn't apply to Nazis.

Whether something one person does is right or wrong or even a grey line doesn't not automatically make a nation of nazis. Your argument is pretty weak

 

[Ryan69]

Like the Canadian parliament yesterday I guess.

Standing ovation for a 90 odd year olds efforts in WW2 and applauding a Ukrainian Gentleman.

The man fought in WW2(respect that you survived sir)
He is a hero cause he was fighting the Russians in an SS brigade.

The battalion even changed their name after the war to separate themselves from being Nazis.

Russians hate Nazis remember!

Though Media like to compare Putin to Hitler,and all the Nazi term the media throw at you about Russia.

Polar opposite.

 

[GORDONSMITH7]

Like the Canadian parliament yesterday I guess.

Standing ovation for a 90 odd year olds efforts in WW2 and applauding a Ukrainian Gentleman.

The man fought in WW2(respect that you survived sir)
He is a hero cause he was fighting the Russians in an SS brigade.

The battalion even changed their name after the war to separate themselves from being Nazis.

Russians hate Nazis remember!

Though Media like to compare Putin to Hitler,and all the Nazi term the media throw at you about Russia.

Polar opposite.

He was indeed a Nazi.
Yaroslav Hunka, 98, was sitting in the gallery when he was described as a “Ukrainian hero” and a “Canadian hero” to applause from prime minister Justin Trudeau and president Volodymyr Zelensky.
Hunka’s Nazi unit are accused of killing Polish and Jewish civilians, and were visited by SS leader Heinrich Himmler in 1944 who said his men would be “eager” to “liquidate the Poles”.
Jewish groups in Canada and elsewhere understandably not too chuffed.

BIG G

 

[Jack]

With a Pope in the Panzers I suspect the Catholics weren't that chuffed either.

If only WWI had been the war to end all wars.

 

[Ryan69]

The World is Not what the masses believe.

This wasn't thought up yesterday.
Hitler did not die in Berlin...so why as a kid were you taught he did. It's a lie!
Hitler's is not around now... BUT there's plenty Nazis around.

Look at NASA for a start.

Always found it interesting that prominent Nazis generally had sword fights.
They would aim to cut the face.
They would then put horsehair in the wound ..so it would leave a bigger scar.


Look at NASAs founders.
Look at the launches.

 

[tayside hibee]

Like the Canadian parliament yesterday I guess.

Standing ovation for a 90 odd year olds efforts in WW2 and applauding a Ukrainian Gentleman.

The man fought in WW2(respect that you survived sir)
He is a hero cause he was fighting the Russians in an SS brigade.

The battalion even changed their name after the war to separate themselves from being Nazis.

Russians hate Nazis remember!

Though Media like to compare Putin to Hitler,and all the Nazi term the media throw at you about Russia.

Polar opposite.

The Nazis were of course despicable evil.
The Russian Gulag camps, were not exactly Butlins don't forget.

 

[Jack]

The World is Not what the masses believe.

This wasn't thought up yesterday.
Hitler did not die in Berlin...so why as a kid were you taught he did. It's a lie!
Hitler's is not around now... BUT there's plenty Nazis around.

Look at NASA for a start.

Always found it interesting that prominent Nazis generally had sword fights.
They would aim to cut the face.
They would then put horsehair in the wound ..so it would leave a bigger scar.


Look at NASAs founders.
Look at the launches.

Gonna tell us the world is flat?

You're confusing the nazi with the German university elite, long time before Hitler was even born. The Student Prince
Frowned upon over the last few decades but ...

... Basic error we've come to expect from you.

Despite your tin foil hat you are being monitored by the establishment. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

NRRYSLF.

If anyone wishes to discuss the German university elite feel free. Something, another thing, I have first hand knowledge of! Fascinating.

 

[GORDONSMITH7]

The Nazis were of course despicable evil.
The Russian Gulag camps, were not exactly Butlins don't forget.

Do think that the Bolsheviks and Trotskyists on mass exterminated by the reactionary Stalinist bureaucracy along with several million souls didn't get it?
I've been over this with my good libertarian pal on here over two decades.

BIG G

 

[GORDONSMITH7]

The reality of the situation in Ukraine was spelled out graphically last year by my Comrades in the IMT, the International Marxist Tendency. Clearly opposing the intervention of Russian Capitalist Imperialist intervention.

Ukraine: Putin ups the ante | Socialist Appeal

Faced with Western imperialism’s intransigence, Putin has escalated the conflict in Ukraine by recognising the Donbas republics and sending in troops. This is a clash between rival reactionary powers – powers that the working class must overthrow.

socialist.net

Likewise in the here and now as , God forbid , IMT Communists like myself, our analysis of reality of what is happen in Ukraine and the processes International vis a vis US and European imperialism. May be hard to accept. Davy, I totally accept you contribution to this debate amigo.
I do notice that the happy clappers when you first posted are like snow of a dike.
Total respect to you mate.
Reality is harder to bare sometimes.

West faces humiliation in Ukraine | Socialist Appeal

The catastrophic failure of the Ukrainian counter-offensive is provoking splits and divisions in the NATO alliance. Meanwhile, workers across the world are paying the price for this inter-imperialist conflict. The class struggle is set to intensify.

socialist.net

BIG G

 

[GORDONSMITH7]

The reality of the situation in Ukraine was spelled out graphically last year by my Comrades in the IMT, the International Marxist Tendency. Clearly opposing the intervention of Russian Capitalist Imperialist intervention.

Ukraine: Putin ups the ante | Socialist Appeal

Faced with Western imperialism’s intransigence, Putin has escalated the conflict in Ukraine by recognising the Donbas republics and sending in troops. This is a clash between rival reactionary powers – powers that the working class must overthrow.

socialist.net

Likewise in the here and now as , God forbid , IMT Communists like myself, our analysis of reality of what is happen in Ukraine and the processes International vis a vis US and European imperialism. May be hard to accept. Davy, I totally accept you contribution to this debate amigo.
I do notice that the happy clappers when you first posted are like snow of a dike.
Total respect to you mate.
Reality is harder to bare sometimes.

West faces humiliation in Ukraine | Socialist Appeal

The catastrophic failure of the Ukrainian counter-offensive is provoking splits and divisions in the NATO alliance. Meanwhile, workers across the world are paying the price for this inter-imperialist conflict. The class struggle is set to intensify.

socialist.net

BIG G

Just read this in full again. Brilliant!

 

[Ryan69]

Gonna tell us the world is flat?

You're confusing the nazi with the German university elite, long time before Hitler was even born. The Student Prince
Frowned upon over the last few decades but ...

... Basic error we've come to expect from you.

Despite your tin foil hat you are being monitored by the establishment. Be afraid. Be very afraid.

NRRYSLF.

If anyone wishes to discuss the German university elite feel free. Something, another thing, I have first hand knowledge of! Fascinating.

Was his battalion commanded by the Nazis?

There's your answer.

So my statement about giving standing ovations to Nazis is correct.

 

[GORDONSMITH7]

Was his battalion commanded by the Nazis?

There's your answer.

So my statement about giving standing ovations to Nazis is correct.

The reality of the situation in Ukraine was spelled out graphically last year by my Comrades in the IMT, the International Marxist Tendency. Clearly opposing the intervention of Russian Capitalist Imperialist intervention.

Ukraine: Putin ups the ante | Socialist Appeal

Faced with Western imperialism’s intransigence, Putin has escalated the conflict in Ukraine by recognising the Donbas republics and sending in troops. This is a clash between rival reactionary powers – powers that the working class must overthrow.

socialist.net

Likewise in the here and now as , God forbid , IMT Communists like myself, our analysis of reality of what is happen in Ukraine and the processes International vis a vis US and European imperialism. May be hard to accept. Davy, I totally accept you contribution to this

amigo.
I do notice that the happy clappers when you first posted are like snow of a dyke.
Total respect to you mate.
Reality is harder to bare sometimes.

West faces humiliation in Ukraine | Socialist Appeal

The catastrophic failure of the Ukrainian counter-offensive is provoking splits and divisions in the NATO alliance. Meanwhile, workers across the world are paying the price for this inter-imperialist conflict. The class struggle is set to intensify.

socialist.net

BIG G

I just reread. Spot on. .

BIG G

 

[GORDONSMITH7]

BBC giving it that 35 top ranking l

Was his battalion commanded by the Nazis?

There's your answer.

So my statement about giving standing ovations to Nazis is correct.

You were spot on Ryan. Can I be the only fucker to say this to you amigo.
99.9% of the time you do spliff ten pales of shite son. Sorry.

BIG G

 

[gordoz]

That's unfair, hitting Ryan with actual facts

It's all facts on wiki

 

[egb_hibs]

The World is Not what the masses believe.

This wasn't thought up yesterday.
Hitler did not die in Berlin...so why as a kid were you taught he did. It's a lie!
Hitler's is not around now... BUT there's plenty Nazis around.

Look at NASA for a start.

Always found it interesting that prominent Nazis generally had sword fights.
They would aim to cut the face.
They would then put horsehair in the wound ..so it would leave a bigger scar.


Look at NASAs founders.
Look at the launches.

Why are you always going on about Nazis and also propagating neo Nazi conspiracy theory (your citation of the ‘Karelgi plan’ the other day)?

Not sure where duelling comes into that, but whether any Nazi members took part (I don’t know) that was in fact a hobby of the Prussian aristocracy which well predated them, and from whose ranks some of Hitlers would-be assassins came.

 

[Davy]

Victoria's Secret chain of shops are leaving Russia. But like many others they are selling their brand to another company in Russia, which means they get cash, Russia keeps lingerie shops and perhaps even access the same stock. But here is the best bit, the name of the company who took over Victoria's Secret Russia? BLIND CHICKEN


Meanwhile would you actually date a Russian woman like this one on the second of these intercepted phone calls? And she is not exactly unique as there are plenty calls like this

 

[Roger the Cabin Boy]

Do think that the Bolsheviks and Trotskyists on mass exterminated by the reactionary Stalinist bureaucracy along with several million souls didn't get it?
I've been over this with my good libertarian pal on here over two decades.

BIG G

Yep.
Stalin murdered far more than Adolph, [and Mao was even worse].

How Joseph Stalin Starved Millions in the Ukrainian Famine | HISTORY

Cruel efforts under Stalin to impose collectivism and tamp down Ukrainian nationalism left an estimated 3.9 million dead.

www.history.com

The Ukrainians in WW 2 initially welcomed the germans hoping that they would rid them of the Russians. Put yourself in their position, you can fight one invader or the other. Whether you are deemed a hero or a villain for this choice depends on which side won the war.

 

[egb_hibs]

Yep.
Stalin murdered far more than Adolph, [and Mao was even worse].

How Joseph Stalin Starved Millions in the Ukrainian Famine | HISTORY

Cruel efforts under Stalin to impose collectivism and tamp down Ukrainian nationalism left an estimated 3.9 million dead.

www.history.com

The Ukrainians in WW 2 initially welcomed the germans hoping that they would rid them of the Russians. Put yourself in their position, you can fight one invader or the other. Whether you are deemed a hero or a villain for this choice depends on which side won the war.

History is written by the academics. The Ukrainians and other victims of the USSR clearly ought to have sucked it up to fit better within future narratives / apologias.

 

[Davy]

Looks like Russia never learn. In a mass attack on Ardvidka (apologies for spelling) Russian vehicles were hit hard. According to Ukraine it was the worst day for a long time for Russian forces. Over the whole battlefield in 24 hours they claim to have knocked out the following

Today Whole war
Troops 990 (284,890)
Tanks 42 4905
Armoured 44 9264
personnel
vehicles
Artillery 32 6763
systems
MLRS 2 811
AA Systems 545
Aircraft planes 316 helicopters 316
Warship boats 20 does not include the warship claimed to have sunk after hitting a mine yesterday
Submarines 1
Special equipment 966

 

[gordoz]

Looks like Russia never learn. In a mass attack on Ardvidka (apologies for spelling) Russian vehicles were hit hard. According to Ukraine it was the worst day for a long time for Russian forces. Over the whole battlefield in 24 hours they claim to have knocked out the following

Today Whole war
Troops 990 (284,890)
Tanks 42 4905
Armoured 44 9264
personnel
vehicles
Artillery 32 6763
systems
MLRS 2 811
AA Systems 545
Aircraft planes 316 helicopters 316
Warship boats 20 does not include the warship claimed to have sunk after hitting a mine yesterday
Submarines 1
Special equipment 966

How many did Ukraine loose?

 

[Davy]

How many did Ukraine loose?

Why don't you try to find out from Russian sources? Ukraine don't publish hunan losses. But they do tanks etc.

In Advivka despite losing many tanks and other vehicles Russia have again resorted to dropping phosphorous bombs which incinerate anything. Despite that Ukraine are still holding out

 

[Davy]

2 Russian warships have been hit by sea drones in the last three days near Sevastopal. One a cruise missile carrier Buyan. The other was the Pavel Derzhaven, A patrol ship. A deisel/electric submarine The Alrosa managed to avoid being hit.

Update is that conflicting reports of sea drones or Russian mines..end result is the same.

Another SU-25 shot down today.

 

[Hammi]

Troops 990 (284,890)

Sent a quarter million people in to die for no sensible reason.

 

[Davy]

For the first time in this war Ukraine are firing more artillery that Russia. This is because Russian stocks are depleting and perhaps because do many artillery guns have been knocked out.
Reports that North Korea have sent over 1000 containers of ammunition with no details of what they are sending. Their artillery shells have been know to be inconsistent.

There are huge losses on both sides during the latest Russian offensive but little ground gained if any. Russia continue to use numbers over quality attacks.

 

[Davy]

Hits in 2 Airfields in Luhandk and Berdyansk..the latter hitting ammunition that new up for 6 hours. Up to 9 Russian helicopters destroyed as well as anti aircraft
Guns

 

[Davy]

Russia complaining Ukraine used long range Western missiles to hit Berdyansk.. bit rich deom them as they collect containers of rockets from Notth Korea and Iran to use on mainland of Ukraine
Guess Poo tin don't get irony

 

[Davy]

As Russia go on the offensive and Ukraine open a new area of battle Iver the Dneiper; Ukraine claim it was the heaviest say of fighting. They reported killing over 1300 Russians and around 55 tanks, 120 armoured vehicles, 4 multi launch rocket systems, 29 artillery guns and 23 other vehicles and fuel tanks

 

[Davy]

A Ukranian family in the occupied territory of Donetsk refused to hand their family home over to Chechen fighters. Later after a few vodkas the Chechens returned and killed the whole family, even the toddlers

 

[Davy]

Sea Port at Kerch hit tonight. Reports of another missile ship being hit with three missiles, but no confirmation.

 

[Davy]

Ukraine might be out of most people's minds but that doesn't stop the deaths. For all Russia claimed Kherson was part of Russia, it has not stopped shelling the main city, today killing a 2 month old girl and her Mother had legs amputated. There was also shelling of the local hospital with more casualties. Very little or nothing about this hospital on the news as
Ukraine struggles to find the air time it has a few months ago.

Meant to put some videos up I saw but forgot. I might try find them. They were actually parts of longer updates. One was that Russia has named a regiment after the guy who unified Ukraine into the USSR. The same guy was instrumental in attacks in Poland and Lithuania where thousands of Jews died as a result and taken captive. So basically he was a Nazi or same as, yet Tussia celebrate him by naming a regiment after him

Another video shows a couple of army officers singing the most cheesy song about how everyone hates Russia and even manages tk get references to Judab in it, whilst the school kids resplendent in children's army uniforms listen to this propaganda.

Thirdly a republican who tells USA senate that it is all lies and how bad Ukraine is and he cites several reasons for why no one should back Ukraine. His argument is pretty easily demolished by Denys Davydov who puts daily updates on YouTube.

 

[Archie]

Really thought provoking piece on Germany's attitude to the Ukraine war (or more accurately the German Chancellor).

Who’s Afraid of (Ukraine’s) Victory? | Internationale Politik Quarterly

For Germany’s chancellor, victory seems to be the hardest word. This reluctance appears driven by fears of geopolitical change, which he seems hesitant to shape, let alone master, and by drawing the wrong lessons from German history.

ip-quarterly.com