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It does seem very professional. The hitman done the business and was away on seconds.
 
egb_hibs said:
Downtown manhattan I think that’s the mark of a pro Doc. If he used a getaway car he’d have travelled a couple of blocks by now.
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Should have just jumped on the underground.
So many nutters prowling the platforms he’d have melted into the crowds no bother.

Maybe he did?
Cops should look for a cyclist on the trains.
 
Actually I think this handsome young buck has been done up like a kipper. That’s not the same guy - or at least he’s not wearing the same clothes

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Sancho Panza said:
You're not a fan, as I recall? 😆
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Gosh that’s a ‘pick it out’. Yes there is something about both him and his sister that gives me the creeps. I really don’t know what it is, and appreciate it’s me not them.

Since he has grown a beard this has declined- I think it reduces the weirdly plastic look that I think is troubling my unconscious - but this option may not be available to sis. However age has also reduced it in both as well.

Apart from more obvious reasons Justin Trudeau creeps me out in a similar fashion. Again he looks like he has come out of a mould.
 
egb_hibs said:
Gosh that’s a ‘pick it out’. Yes there is something about both him and his sister that gives me the creeps. I really don’t know what it is, and appreciate it’s me not them.

Since he has grown a beard this has declined- I think it reduces the weirdly plastic look that I think is troubling my unconscious - but this option may not be available to sis. However age has also reduced it in both as well.

Apart from more obvious reasons Justin Trudeau creeps me out in a similar fashion. Again he looks like he has come out of a mould.
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😆 I remember years ago discussing Donnie Darko and you said something about hating that rubber-faced twat or similar. I said any film that opens with The Killing Moon gets a pass from me.
 
Just read this wee snippet earlier regarding the assassination.....


Murdered health insurance boss Brian Thompson backed 'malicious' AI that denied 90% of patient coverage
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
Just read this wee snippet earlier regarding the assassination.....


Murdered health insurance boss Brian Thompson backed 'malicious' AI that denied 90% of patient coverage
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It really is an absolutely loathesome industry. The American system is so fucked its hard to comprehend. They spend more taxpayer dollars on healthcare than almost everyone else - in fact I think it is literally more than everyone else but am not certain - and still have this madness on top, and people being fucked over left, right and centre.

Free at the point of use healthcare should be basic of civilised society. It seems to me that private provision is not the issue, but how it’s funded. Get this parasitical insurance industry to fuck and have a national insurance scheme instead. The doctors may have to accept not being multi millionaires but they can still be much wealthier than NHS equivalents, and they can still be independent providers.

An absolute basket case. And no surprises to see AI making a malign contribution to things. Expect more of that sort of thing.
 
The forums I've been reading have zero sympathy for the CEO. Hoping this begins a change in American healthcare issues as CEO's and the like have some fear in their lives from those that get denied and having nothing to lose or those that have lost someone to being denied and therefore have lost everything important to them. In the US we pay for insurance which can then just say nope...we're not covering that....we're tired of it.
 
BVilleggiante said:
The forums I've been reading have zero sympathy for the CEO. Hoping this begins a change in American healthcare issues as CEO's and the like have some fear in their lives from those that get denied and having nothing to lose or those that have lost someone to being denied and therefore have lost everything important to them. In the US we pay for insurance which can then just say nope...we're not covering that....we're tired of it.
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I think US health insurance is mad. But executing people who operate it?
 
Archie said:
I'm reading that as 90% of AI decisions were reversed on appeal etc:

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Yes that’s what it says. Which is completely scandalous itself given some crummy piece of software is erroneously denying possibly time critical claims, and some of those require a federal judge to sort out, at what expense.

Basically that software doesn’t work unless the point is simply to delay and get people to give up, or to give cashflow a boost. And it probably is.
 
Westside Green said:
If they are in charge of the decision making that denies people life saving treatment because it will affect profits it's not surprising
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I don't disagree with the point about the absurdity of the US health system, but the idea of executing people who work in the system is just abhorrent. What next - executing Revenue Scotland for enforcement of taxes? Or NHS practitioners who don't sign off on an expensive drug treatment?
 
Archie said:
I don't disagree with the point about the absurdity of the US health system, but the idea of executing people who work in the system is just abhorrent. What next - executing Revenue Scotland for enforcement of taxes? Or NHS practitioners who don't sign off on an expensive drug treatment?
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Treat people fairly and it doesn't happen
 
Westside Green said:
Treat people fairly and it doesn't happen
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The issue is that a CEO's primary responsibility is to shareholders. That's one of the fundamental tension in US healthcare. Yet the US has just elected a president and Congress that fought tooth and nail against the Affordable Care Act.
 
Police in Pennsylvania are questioning a 26-year-old man in connection with the shock slaying of UnitedHealthcare CEO Brian Thompson in New York City.

The man, identified by the New York Times as Luigi Mangione, was taken into custody after McDonald's customers in Altoona, around 100 miles east of Pittsburgh, believed they recognized him as the gunman.

He reportedly had a gun similar to the one used in the Wednesday morning murder, along with a gun silencer, a manifesto and four fake IDs on his person when he was nabbed by cops.
 

Luigi Mangione is heir to holiday resort fortune created by his grandparents and has sister who's top doctor​

The suspected killer of UnitedHealthCare CEO Brian Thompson is the heir to a holiday resort fortune created by his grandparents - and the brother of a top doctor.
Luigi Mangione, 26, comes from a powerful Maryland family centered around the late patriarch Nicholas Mangiano, a first-generation American who built a real estate empire in the state that included country clubs and media.
Nicholas, who died in 2008 aged 83 after suffering a stroke, was the owner of Turf Valley Resort and Hayfields Country Club, as well as the radio station at the WCBM-AM.
 
EH17 Jimmy said:

Luigi Mangione is heir to holiday resort fortune created by his grandparents and has sister who's top doctor​

The suspected killer of UnitedHealthCare CEO Brian Thompson is the heir to a holiday resort fortune created by his grandparents - and the brother of a top doctor.
Luigi Mangione, 26, comes from a powerful Maryland family centered around the late patriarch Nicholas Mangiano, a first-generation American who built a real estate empire in the state that included country clubs and media.
Nicholas, who died in 2008 aged 83 after suffering a stroke, was the owner of Turf Valley Resort and Hayfields Country Club, as well as the radio station at the WCBM-AM.
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Doesn’t really seem like the sort of person who might have had a relative suffer due to lack of insurance, ie it sounds like they could afford required treatment.
 
EH17 Jimmy said:
Aye it's getting curiouser and curiouser
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He does have the stereotypical background for a political radical, ie rich, Ivy League etc. But he also seems like a fledgling tech bro.

All very odd. Time will tell.
 
Yep the story will drip out for a while. But rich kid killing rich geezer?

It was certainly a targeted attack
 
Seen it pointed out his twitter profile features an x Ray of a spine with pins in it, while he references back pain. A bloke in the Scottish islands whacked the guy treating his back lately, might be something similar - driven round the bend by pain and resentful of health insurance role in it.
 
The 26-year-old suspect - who was arrested at a McDonald’s in Altoona, Pennsylvania Monday - went 'absolutely crazy' after painful back surgery and explored psychedelic treatment for his chronic pain, it was revealed.

Friends said Mangione dropped off the radar when 'everything changed' after a surfing accident - and it has now been reported he singled out UnitedHealthcare in a 'manifesto' he was carrying.

In the 262-word handwritten document, Mangione said as UnitedHealthcare’s market capitalization has grown, American life expectancy has not.

He condemned companies that 'continue to abuse our country for immense profit because the American public has allowed them to get away with it.

Mangione reportedly wrote that he acted alone and was self-funded, adding: 'To save you a lengthy investigation, I state plainly that I wasn’t working with anyone.

'These parasites had it coming. I do apologize for any strife and trauma, but it had to be done.'
 
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