The Next Manager Thread....

[Smurf]

That’s how the club is set up, so I think you are spot on.
But that won’t go down well with some fans.

Why I was surprised by the Neil Lennon appointment. I always felt Alan Stubbs was much more fitted to the template.

 

[Doc Shrink]

Why I was surprised by the Neil Lennon appointment. I always felt Alan Stubbs was much more fitted to the template.

Again - I totally agree.
Having heard 'the vision' as told by Leeann and George where the Hibs Template could be filled by the odd missing piece without total re-builds needed every time, I was pretty surprised too. I expected Lennon to be 'coach' as in his title, but clearly he wanted to run the whole show - hence some of his fall outs with fitness staff etc. I wouldn't be at all surprised if his job expectations versus the role the Board had set out were at least part of the issue.

It was a brilliant two seasons while it lasted though.

But we move on....

 

[Central_Hibee]

Hearing we have permission to discuss the vacacy with Tommy Wright???

 

[Al Catraz]

Hearing we have permission to discuss the vacacy with Tommy Wright???

Oh Christ - mediocrity here we come. Middle table maybe top six but never in relegation trouble

 

[Al Catraz]

Hearing we have permission to discuss the vacacy with Tommy Wright???

At least it isn't wee Gordie Strachan I suppose

 

[aggie]

Oh Christ - mediocrity here we come. Middle table maybe top six but never in relegation trouble

I dunno, like, I think that's a bit unfair, given what he's achieved with St J on a fraction of our budget. Who's to say with better resources he wouldn't excel?

 

[Central_Hibee]

Oh Christ - mediocrity here we come. Middle table maybe top six but never in relegation trouble

I don't know what his coaching etc is like, but he seems to have done well at St J and plays a fair few attacking players. Scottish cup win along the way.

 

[Central_Hibee]

I dunno, like, I think that's a bit unfair, given what he's achieved with St J on a fraction of our budget. Who's to say with better resources he wouldn't excel?

Danny Swanson seems to thrive under him. Maybe he has a better mix of aggression and arm around treatment. At the same time he likes the odd touchline bust up so I would be glad we wouldn't be losing that entertainment

 

[Kenny]

i do find it odd that players play well tommy wright bat fail to "step on" elsewhere

o halloran
stevie may
wotherspoon
liam craig
swanson

either he is a good coach or he needs a certain type of player.

wouldnt be the worst appointment

 

[stickyRicky]

Hearing we have permission to discuss the vacacy with Tommy Wright???

Wonder if Lennon would warn him off us considering they are mates.

 

[southfieldhibby]

I'd be fine with Wright.

 

[goldenhibby]

Thought we were looking at a younger sort of coach, in the Stubbs type of mould, rather than a manager?

 

[Doc Shrink]

i do find it odd that players play well tommy wright bat fail to "step on" elsewhere

o halloran
stevie may
wotherspoon
liam craig
swanson

either he is a good coach or he needs a certain type of player.

wouldnt be the worst appointment

Spoony has only been at Hibs, then Sainties so he can't be included.
Liam Craig wasn't as bad as he was painted at Hibs (in my opinion) just a bad time. He was played out of position and spent too much time moaning at referees. But I'll give you him.
Danny - a terrible time off field, but didn't help himself...... so on balance I'll give you that one too.
May and OHalloran - totally!

 

[Doc Shrink]

Thought we were looking at a younger sort of coach, in the Stubbs type of mould, rather than a manager?

That's the job description. (Not the 'younger' bit obviously.) Nothing wrong with being er....... not so young.

 

[Smurf]

I'd be OK with Wright. Achieved miracles with his budget.

 

[Beagle]

If StJ are allowing Hibs to speak to their manager then they obviously aren't that bothered in keeping him. If he was doing that great a job for them they wouldn't give that permission. That's how I look at it

 

[Smurf]

If StJ are allowing Hibs to speak to their manager then they obviously aren't that bothered in keeping him. If he was doing that great a job for them they wouldn't give that permission. That's how I look at it

Tosh. Nobody could forward any argument to suggest he's not hugely overachieved at St Johnstone.

He's recently signed a new contract with them. Presumably they were not that bothered about keeping him that they offered him that for a laugh?

I have no idea but I'd imagine he had a clause inserted into his contract.

 

[Beagle]

Tosh. Nobody could forward any argument to suggest he's not hugely overachieved at St Johnstone.

He's recently signed a new contract with them. Presumably they were not that bothered about keeping him that they offered him that for a laugh?

I have no idea but I'd imagine he had a clause inserted into his contract.

I'm conditioned to be suspicious and questioning

 

[West Indies]

Unless Strachan fancies it, I doubt we will get a manager with anything like the high profile Lennon has.
Which means quite a number of fans are going to be ‘underwhelmed’.

Just saying.

Yip absolutely correct. Can just see him with scarf held over head & everyone saying who is he???

 

[HaarlemShuffler]

We got Butchet in cos he did great things on a shoestring with Ross C and look how that turned out!

I'd prefer for the long run a youngish but not starter coach who could dovetail into the new infrastructure Hibs are trying to create. Not boythrred if no SPFL experience either, tho would be nice.

 

[1875]

We got Butchet in cos he did great things on a shoestring with Ross C and look how that turned out!

I'd prefer for the long run a youngish but not starter coach who could dovetail into the new infrastructure Hibs are trying to create. Not boythrred if no SPFL experience either, tho would be nice.

It was Inverness the useless hun bastard came from.

 

[Doc Shrink]

We got Butchet in cos he did great things on a shoestring with Ross C and look how that turned out!

I'd prefer for the long run a youngish but not starter coach who could dovetail into the new infrastructure Hibs are trying to create. Not boythrred if no SPFL experience either, tho would be nice.

Steeeveeeeee Gerrard?

 

[Kenny]

It was Inverness the useless hun bastard came from.

it was the radio scotland chick young media parade the useless hun bastard came from.

 

[Smurf]

Because he was such a useless backward Hun bastard history will forget the January contribution from our board in backing him in the January 2014 window....

 

[Doc Shrink]

Because he was such a useless backward Hun bastard history will forget the January contribution from our board in backing him in the January 2014 window....

Remind us then......

you know you want to.

 

[Smurf]

Remind us then......

you know you want to.

It was a horrendous window as was the previous summer. We signed a quality of player who shouldn't be near Easter Road. That said Duncan Watmore not the worst we've ever signed.

Transfer Deadline Day: Hibs land Watmore, Boateng & Haynes

 

[MSG_07]

Some of the names we are being linked with are pretty uninspiring I have to say. I.e. the Aussie coach and Lee Clark. I don't think Gemmil has enough experience at our league level tbh. There should be one target and that is Steve Clarke. I think he is a realistic target.

 

[Zab]

One arguement for a number of managers is that they’ve done well on a shoestring, so should be able to do well with more. I don’t really believe that to be the case, some simply work better in a smaller environment with less expectation, and have players who similarly work well in that environment.

Stepping up to a club with a large football department, top facilities, and an expectant fan base is not something everyone can deal with, regardless of how well they’ve done elsewhere.

Perhaps the reason why Stubbs & Lennon have done well here is that they’re used to that “big club” feel, whereas the likes of Butcher, Fenlon & even Hughes didn’t.

For me Lennon broke the mould of what Hibs are set up for, and that was the right decision as we absolutely had to get out of the Championship. The season we then had last year was brilliant in re-establishing us a top club. But the next appointment should go back to the model - a Head Coach, with a couple of assistants, working with the recruitment/scouting/fitness departments rather than running them.

 

[TinTinHFC]

Some of the names we are being linked with are pretty uninspiring I have to say. I.e. the Aussie coach and Lee Clark. I don't think Gemmil has enough experience at our league level tbh. There should be one target and that is Steve Clarke. I think he is a realistic target.

Completely agree with this - Steve Clarke should be approached as next manager asap - get him in NOW and although not ideal, at least gives him a day to chase / finalise any transfers. I.E Players he wanted at Killie but didn't have large enough budget - not saying ours is massive but MUST be bigger than Killie etc

 

[HaarlemShuffler]

It was Inverness the useless hun bastard came from.

Ta. My bad, but geographically close eh no?

 

[Doc Shrink]

It was a horrendous window as was the previous summer. We signed a quality of player who shouldn't be near Easter Road. That said Duncan Watmore not the worst we've ever signed.

Transfer Deadline Day: Hibs land Watmore, Boateng & Haynes

I qiute agree - some shocking signings. Although Watmore was excellent and suffered from over-lenient referees clogging him to slow him down. He's done not bad though.

I suspect it was some of the horrendous signing of that period that caused (or helped cause) the creation of 'specialist depts' with one looking at recruitment, rather than just being at the whim of an already overworked manager.

 

[C4MMY]

Not a chance Steve Clarke will be our manager. His next club will 100% be celtic.

 

[metaldave]

I'd like Gordon Strachan but feel it will more likely be someone like a Gary Caldwell or a Kevin Harper. Lennon wasn't a yes man and the only way you succeed at hibs is to know your role, don't question the transfer budget, have no ambition (other than to finish top six n maybe a cup run) and most importantly you must adhere to and follow orders and strict guidelines from the board.

 

[Greenpower]

I qiute agree - some shocking signings. Although Watmore was excellent and suffered from over-lenient referees clogging him to slow him down. He's done not bad though.

I suspect it was some of the horrendous signing of that period that caused (or helped cause) the creation of 'specialist depts' with one looking at recruitment, rather than just being at the whim of an already overworked manager.

wattmore had couple of decent runs against Raith. Had they kicked the siht out him. Sauzee was excellent.

 

[Rocky]

Gordon Strachan not ruling himself out:

Gordon Strachan responds to speculation linking him with Hibs job

 

[Jack]

Just said on the telly, BBCLies, that Alan Stubbs would be interested in returning to our club.

If it's not to be AS I think we maybe need a big name again. Someone with a big club attitude, with the same baws as Neil Lennon, someone who fears no-one (except Leeann ;-).

Or someone like AS from a big clubs system, dare I say the sevco manager came from the same background and is doing better than we all thought.

No idea who this person might be.

 

[Swahibee]

Just said on the telly, BBCLies, that Alan Stubbs would be interested in returning to our club.

If it's not to be AS I think we maybe need a big name again. Someone with a big club attitude, with the same baws as Neil Lennon, someone who fears no-one (except Leeann ;-).

Or someone like AS from a big clubs system, dare I say the sevco manager came from the same background and is doing better than we all thought.

No idea who this person might be.

I'd happily see Stubbs back at ER along with Doolan. Perfect fit for me. Strachan can GTF far as i am concerned.. Outside of his cash strewn tenure at the Smellies he has done sod all of note in his managerial career. Unless getting Coventry relegated counts !!!

Did he not knock us back previously ?

 

[metaldave]

Is John Collins gonna be playing another round of golf with the tashman

 

[Greenmachine]

One arguement for a number of managers is that they’ve done well on a shoestring, so should be able to do well with more. I don’t really believe that to be the case, some simply work better in a smaller environment with less expectation, and have players who similarly work well in that environment.

Stepping up to a club with a large football department, top facilities, and an expectant fan base is not something everyone can deal with, regardless of how well they’ve done elsewhere.

Perhaps the reason why Stubbs & Lennon have done well here is that they’re used to that “big club” feel, whereas the likes of Butcher, Fenlon & even Hughes didn’t.

For me Lennon broke the mould of what Hibs are set up for, and that was the right decision as we absolutely had to get out of the Championship. The season we then had last year was brilliant in re-establishing us a top club. But the next appointment should go back to the model - a Head Coach, with a couple of assistants, working with the recruitment/scouting/fitness departments rather than running them.

My thoughts as well.

 

[WJC1848]

Please, please, please, no.