Rocky
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Southport Stabbings
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egb_hibs
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Why would they tell you that? What if he isn’t anything like the majority of people in the UK and Wales in particular?
Sadly there is probably not much puzzle to fix; another loner goes mental is what it looks like.
Bossie
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What bits of the puzzle are you worried about?
bigmanandy
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You've already been told he wasn't mentally well, autism is a condition that's linked to many cases like this unfortunately.
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Rocky
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It says 2-5 years on the box, Ryan would probably do it in a couple of months.
egb_hibs
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I’m not a lawyer and I don’t know who these people are; but that reads more like incompetence than fabrication to me. Assuming the other guy is correct.
I heard he had gave up on the chicken one.He's still trying to do the one of the Tiger using a bowl of Frosties.
Jack
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Is this not the Barrett guy that writes for the Spectator who has been discredited on a number of occasions for similar shite? If its the guy I'm thinking of I'm pretty sure he isn't even qualified.
Rocky
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Aye it's an ongoing pattern of behaviour but egb googled him one time so he'll have a different view.
egb_hibs
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Some on here frown on such attitudes and probably rightly so. Nevertheless I simply do not trust him based on his hair alone.
@Rocky - there, that’s my view. Don’t know why you have picked up the Archie playbook, but I’ll leave you to it, as well as following these no marks on twitter.
Westside Green
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I don't think I'd let him babysit
Oh fuck off Ryan. His parents were from Rwanda which is around 90% Christian and about 2% Muslim so go and take a flying fuck to yourself with your insinuation that somehow his religion was kept from us for some reason. In other words, stop being a cvnt.
Exactly, it is speculation so why bring it up? He's more likely to be a catholic or protestant given that Rwanda. where his parents are from is 88% made up of these 2 religions and only 2% Muslim.
paigntonhibby
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Slippery kaboosh
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Sorry but I find that extremely offensive ... im going to dye my hair blue and bark like a dog
Archie
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Archie playbook? Anyhow, I have no idea who he is, but in this case he is talking rubbish. Which is rather alarming for a barrister.
paigntonhibby
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Rocky
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I think the point is some might ponder the odds before defending folk chucking bricks at a mosque...
egb_hibs
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'Putting words in my mouth'
Of course.
Findlayhibby
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The first of the funerals took place today.A moving moment.
I think your correct. But the same measure please for the Christian churches that are being targeted
emerald green
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maist of them are now pubs anyway davy
Typical response from you. Your anti-Christian sentiments are never lost. Doesn't matter if there is only one. It shouldn't be attacked.maist of them are now pubs anyway davy
Never seen that, where is that happening?
emerald green
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Nah mate. Anti religion. Where did i say christian churches should be attacked? Ill save you time, naewhere.
Offcourse you may be referring to Catholic Churces being guarded whilst other christians march past wi thier flutes n drums n wee faux army uniforms.?
A wee light hearted post about all these churches now pubs over the last 30 odd years. Calm doon
egb_hibs
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Statue smashed in London last week at a church. Could be anything from a Jake to somebody ideologically motivated I guess.
Gotcha.
egb_hibs
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Churches turned into pubs in old Britain. Pubs gone full stop in new Britain...is the bigger picture.maist of them are now pubs anyway davy
emerald green
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fair
Sorry Davy, once more, are talking about in the UK? in the context of this thread. Just for clarification pal.
BIG G
egb_hibs
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I think he’s referring to this G
Statue of Virgin Mary destroyed by vandals at Westminster diocese church - Catholic Herald
Statue of Virgin Mary destroyed by vandals at church in Westminster diocese
catholicherald.co.uk
As I’ve said above I think this is an overblown comparison, and may well just be some Jakes. Even if ideologically motivated it doesn’t compare.
Christians in this country are at risk of discrimination in some settings but not physical threat, at least not outside the orbit of the Rangers and Celtic football clubs. Britain is not France.
They are, however, the most persecuted group globally. Davy may be coloured by that given, as you can imagine, the persecutors often fall into a couple of categories and it is largely ignored by our bleeding hearts,
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@emerald green @BigG @1875
EGB has partly replied but I will try explain more. Firstly emerald, if you were having a bit of banter that's fine, I can still take a joke. Yes there is attacks on churches. I do not condone attacks on Mosques either, though if Germany felt that the Mosque they shut down was because of hate preachers then fair enough.
Anyhow it is not about Muslims, but anyone who vandalises/targets churches. All I was saying was the same thought must be for all and none of us should jump to a conclusion...yes I learned my lesson.
Another way churches have been desecrated appears to be when a church is taken over and becomes a Mosque, and Christian graves are dug up so their land doesn't become "desecrated". Now these coffins may be relocated with agreement with the council, I should hope they would? But has there been agreement with families?
But to be fair, I lost the chain of the thread prior to what Rocky had posted
Anyway back to the point as Ill just ramble, here is links to recent attacks on churches
Not terrorist attacks no, the first likely being a theft
The one EGB pointed to
catholicherald.co.uk
The bigger picture in the world concerns me. My daughter in laws family have lost their homes despite working 50 odd years and paying taxes in India and are now receiving zero help and having to live in rural districts with family in overcrowded homes. So forgive me if I feel a bit raw when it appears open season on the church. Two or three years ago you could never have expected this to happen.
Back to the UK though, it would look like the Christian church has collapsed for sure, but that is a false picture. Yes church attendance is down by a huge number. That does not mean there is no Christians. In fact I would go so far as to say there might be more. What do I mean by that? Well for years people went to church because it was expected of them. They may have had little faith or none. The established church has vicars who do not even believe in God but want to be a help to others, or worse, enjoy the pay and house that comes with it.
But there are thousands of independent churches springing up where people who do want to explore their faith where they do this as a community of believers rather than relying on one minister/priest to meet all their spiritual and material needs. I have seen churches with as little as a dozen believers through to churches with over 1000 worshippers.
I have seen Emerald negatively mention fundamentalists. But you talk about fundamentalists as if they are all prone to violence and hate. They are not, in fact it would be better to label those who are as hate preachers, whatever their religious persuasion. A fundamentalist is merely someone who believes and sticks to what they believe to be true and does not change with the wind. Very few Christians nowadays I would describe as fundamentalist as they tend to veer from the scriptures in one way or another. But if someone has a particular belief why should they change just because others don't believe their truth? Some people believe it is ok to have a pint but not condoning drunkenness, others say it is better to not drink alcohol at first. But if they respect other peoples right to an opinion then who is being hurt? The fundamentalist in the pack is not harming anyone. But if he/she then says, drinking is evil, we need to stone/jail them then I would label them haters/hate preachers.
EGB has partly replied but I will try explain more. Firstly emerald, if you were having a bit of banter that's fine, I can still take a joke. Yes there is attacks on churches. I do not condone attacks on Mosques either, though if Germany felt that the Mosque they shut down was because of hate preachers then fair enough.
Anyhow it is not about Muslims, but anyone who vandalises/targets churches. All I was saying was the same thought must be for all and none of us should jump to a conclusion...yes I learned my lesson.
Another way churches have been desecrated appears to be when a church is taken over and becomes a Mosque, and Christian graves are dug up so their land doesn't become "desecrated". Now these coffins may be relocated with agreement with the council, I should hope they would? But has there been agreement with families?
But to be fair, I lost the chain of the thread prior to what Rocky had posted
Anyway back to the point as Ill just ramble, here is links to recent attacks on churches
Two Somerset churches vandalised in separate incidents
Reverend Debbi Turley of St Peter's Church in Taunton said the vandalism was "devastating" to find.
www.bbc.co.uk
Not terrorist attacks no, the first likely being a theft
The one EGB pointed to
Statue of Virgin Mary destroyed by vandals at Westminster diocese church - Catholic Herald
Statue of Virgin Mary destroyed by vandals at church in Westminster diocese
catholicherald.co.uk
The bigger picture in the world concerns me. My daughter in laws family have lost their homes despite working 50 odd years and paying taxes in India and are now receiving zero help and having to live in rural districts with family in overcrowded homes. So forgive me if I feel a bit raw when it appears open season on the church. Two or three years ago you could never have expected this to happen.
Back to the UK though, it would look like the Christian church has collapsed for sure, but that is a false picture. Yes church attendance is down by a huge number. That does not mean there is no Christians. In fact I would go so far as to say there might be more. What do I mean by that? Well for years people went to church because it was expected of them. They may have had little faith or none. The established church has vicars who do not even believe in God but want to be a help to others, or worse, enjoy the pay and house that comes with it.
But there are thousands of independent churches springing up where people who do want to explore their faith where they do this as a community of believers rather than relying on one minister/priest to meet all their spiritual and material needs. I have seen churches with as little as a dozen believers through to churches with over 1000 worshippers.
I have seen Emerald negatively mention fundamentalists. But you talk about fundamentalists as if they are all prone to violence and hate. They are not, in fact it would be better to label those who are as hate preachers, whatever their religious persuasion. A fundamentalist is merely someone who believes and sticks to what they believe to be true and does not change with the wind. Very few Christians nowadays I would describe as fundamentalist as they tend to veer from the scriptures in one way or another. But if someone has a particular belief why should they change just because others don't believe their truth? Some people believe it is ok to have a pint but not condoning drunkenness, others say it is better to not drink alcohol at first. But if they respect other peoples right to an opinion then who is being hurt? The fundamentalist in the pack is not harming anyone. But if he/she then says, drinking is evil, we need to stone/jail them then I would label them haters/hate preachers.
