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Incomparable let’s stick to the Modern era - last 30/40 years

Well let's frame it that way. Not claim "highest points ever". Even within the modern era there are variables. Number of games played 40 v 38 v 36.

Highest points ever and finished 4th.
Lower points totals saw us finish higher than 4th in "the modern era". What do we want finishing 4th or higher than that?
 
- we want to be first - but we have never came close to that in my lifetime - we where on the up - now we’re imploding - B4 stubbs and since TM have been bloody awful and that’s a few years
 
Mowbray’s first season was arguably more successful than last season - we finished 3rd (was that a record points total for us at the time) & qualified for Europe.

Last season we finished fourth, and qualified for Europe by virtue of Celtic winning the cup.

Both seasons we played some great football, so there’s not much difference to me. I don’t consider Mowbray a legend for achieving that, so I won’t consider Lennon one for the same reason.

Miller, Collins & Stubbs are forever etched into Hibernian history as cup winning managers, ultimately a more legendary accomplishment than finishing in the top 4.
 
Well let's frame it that way. Not claim "highest points ever". Even within the modern era there are variables. Number of games played 40 v 38 v 36.

Highest points ever and finished 4th.
Lower points totals saw us finish higher than 4th in "the modern era". What do we want finishing 4th or higher than that?

I agree with the general points you’ve made - the points total is interesting though, and we had the record points total for a team in fourth since 2001 by a long way. In other years that total would have seen us second. I’d argue that league position is outwith our control - it depends on the other teams and unless we win every game or lose every game there’s no guarantees where we finish.

If I was Leeann I’d be setting a points target not a position target - I think off the top of my head Lennon’s points total in the championship wasn’t that much different to Stubbs in the previous two seasons but he won the league. Last season was exceptional though, especially the second half.
 
Point of order.

I read elsewhere, not very far from here, some chap had done the number crunching 're the best points total. It was at least a couple of weeks ago so it would take a forensic investigation to find it again!

Neil Lennon came 6th if I recall correctly. A great achievement and one I wouldn't argue against. It was a fantastic journey.
 
Miller pragmatic at best - negative at worst - boring era all be it a few good memories .
Collins great player - great day in the snow at Hampden enough said . Stubbs great attractive football - best day in my lifetime - but failed at league level - although he is a madman Lennon was by far IMO the best manager - he could taken us to Europe group stages - won us cups and who knows ..... not us unfortunately
 
I agree with the general points you’ve made - the points total is interesting though, and we had the record points total for a team in fourth since 2001 by a long way. In other years that total would have seen us second. I’d argue that league position is outwith our control - it depends on the other teams and unless we win every game or lose every game there’s no guarantees where we finish.

If I was Leeann I’d be setting a points target not a position target - I think off the top of my head Lennon’s points total in the championship wasn’t that much different to Stubbs in the previous two seasons but he won the league. Last season was exceptional though, especially the second half.
Yes
 
Maybe I’m slightly over the top - I’m ambivalent to LD - she is probably not as bad as I made out but definitely not the second coming either - I didn’t like the way she handled Scottish cup - we should have told rangers to do1 and we shouldn’t have slapped the invaders - also cancelling hibs tv. Vs Bronby - and she has mortally wounded us by sacking the gaffer followed by silence followed by lies and propaganda - NL needed a hand around the shoulder - told to stop alienating the fans - probably given 48 hrs before speaking to the press - Supported not fired - we risk a return to the Fenton days - new manager every 6 months / no idea of Scottish fitbs and season tickets collapse - she needs to pull a rabbit out the hat or do one -IMO
Maybe NL was supported unless you know different? I suspect he was given plenty support and chances as both LD& RP would recognise the magnitude of effectively sacking him?
Perhaps the removal of NL could be viewed as strong and effective leadership, particularly if he was causing damage to the club and players?
I would expect the CEO to do the right thing for the club, I think she has although it might not seem it to many just now.
 
I agree with the general points you’ve made - the points total is interesting though, and we had the record points total for a team in fourth since 2001 by a long way. In other years that total would have seen us second. I’d argue that league position is outwith our control - it depends on the other teams and unless we win every game or lose every game there’s no guarantees where we finish.

If I was Leeann I’d be setting a points target not a position target - I think off the top of my head Lennon’s points total in the championship wasn’t that much different to Stubbs in the previous two seasons but he won the league. Last season was exceptional though, especially the second half.
I was about to develop those points but focused on the simple quantitative fair test anomalies to begin with. I did allude to this by saying could Lennon have won the league in the Orc Gunt years. We don't know. You're at the mercy of the era you operate in. Messi hasn't won a WC but that's a consequence of timing, too.

Ultimately, winning major honours is the main criteria for legendary status. Championship isn't that. Points totals are nice but it's winning things that put bums on seats and folk in the folklore...
 
Maybe NL was supported unless you know different? I suspect he was given plenty support and chances as both LD& RP would recognise the magnitude of effectively sacking him?
Perhaps the removal of NL could be viewed as strong and effective leadership, particularly if he was causing damage to the club and players?
I would expect the CEO to do the right thing for the club, I think she has although it might not seem it to many just now.

As I keep on saying we were where we where last season up to Christmas points wise game for game.

It’s been a tough season with injuries, and replacing exceptional players although - personally - I believe Leeann and Neil worked very hard - together - to bring in replacements of the quality that we lost. I don’t think it was lack of effort that failed to get these over the line.

The point? I don’t understand what has happened, and all the crazy narratives in the evening news for example doesn’t change that. I don’t understand the actions by Leeann in the evidence of my own eyes - I don’t think the situation called for pressing the panic button.
 
Miller pragmatic at best - negative at worst - boring era all be it a few good memories .
Collins great player - great day in the snow at Hampden enough said . Stubbs great attractive football - best day in my lifetime - but failed at league level - although he is a madman Lennon was by far IMO the best manager - he could taken us to Europe group stages - won us cups and who knows ..... not us unfortunately

Great manager at Celtic (most are) no better than Stubbs at Hibs
 
If Stubbs isn't a legend, how can the players be?
They achieved and failed together.

Lennon made a good group of players into more complete finishers.
But when it came to forming his own side he didn't get it right.
Stubbs had the same support staff and built his squad from next to nothing left as a playable asset.
 
Back on point - LD KILLED NL and is declining to tell us why -let’s hope whoever’s next compares to NL &. STUBBsy win ratio rather than leg over stats
 
Back on point - LD KILLED NL and is declining to tell us why -let’s hope whoever’s next compares to NL &. STUBBsy win ratio rather than leg over stats

Neil Lennon is his own downfall.
I'm a huge fan of his and I'm seriously disappointed if ended like this.
But open your eyes a bit, he can't admit his own mistakes, he picked the teams that confused everyone, he left Kamberi up front on his own and he had us playing poorly enough to be where we are.

Leeanne most definitely jumped the gun suspending him so close to a game, forcing it to be public is fuck and forcing us to admit he didn't do anything to warrant the suspension.

It doesn't mean whatever happened in that meeting wasn't wrong on his part, it doesn't mean that there wasn't a build up of situations and it doesn't mean that he wasn't already coming close to the end.
It's not like the signs weren't there for us to see.
 
The idea that, in that meeting, LD would be the combustible one who'd act rashly in a fit of pique is just completely fucking nuts to me. I can't see how anyone gets there.
 
lennon is a bammer- Leanne is a tough old boot as well so who knows / because they won’t tell us - we’re just thr silly cu—s that pay all there wages - why tell us
 
lennon is a bammer- Leanne is a tough old boot as well so who knows / because they won’t tell us - we’re just thr silly cu—s that pay all there wages - why tell us

Because legally they can’t, not really difficult,
 
Is it just me or are the lunatics trying to take over the asylum?
But it’s been the best the Bounce has been for a couple years!!!
 
Is it just me or are the lunatics trying to take over the asylum?
Seems to have been one or two agitators joined/raised their heads on here fairly recently.
 
Back on point - LD KILLED NL and is declining to tell us why -let’s hope whoever’s next compares to NL &. STUBBsy win ratio rather than leg over stats

“LD KILLED NL” [emoji23]

Give it a rest mate. You have no fcukin clue what happened, same as the rest of us. That is just baseless pish.


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lennon is a bammer- Leanne is a tough old ** as well so who knows / because they won’t tell us - we’re just thr silly **s that pay all there wages - why tell us
They won't tell us because if anyone lost their job in such circumstances there's HR procedures and confidentiality to be respected. Not unusual. We've a board member who is an employment law specialist so this will be by the book.

Are you not in Switzerland? Are you Kamberi's dad?
:oops:
 
That’s the whole point ? We have no clue they hide behind employment law - or banking secrecy when debt was written Off and the peasants believe snd the king reigns and on it goes repeat
 
The idea that, in that meeting, LD would be the combustible one who'd act rashly in a fit of pique is just completely fucking nuts to me. I can't see how anyone gets there.
Exactly mate. If Lennon had done nothing wrong he wouldn’t have agreed to the statement that was released.
 
Or maybe it was so he could get let’s of money duh
 
But it’s been the best the Bounce has been for a couple years!!!

I said that to my admin colleagues, pity adversity brings it out.

Seems to have been one or two agitators joined/raised their heads on here fairly recently.

Good eh. There was a time the bounce was full of radges.
 
That’s the whole point ? We have no clue they hide behind employment law - or banking secrecy when debt was written Off and the peasants believe snd the king reigns and on it goes repeat

Hide behind the law.

I like your style.
 
Seems to have been one or two agitators joined/raised their heads on here fairly recently.
Would you rather everyone just followed the herd and all had exactly the same view? It would destroy any debate and kill the point of a forum but it would save you having to read posts from members who might have a different opinion to you.
 
I said that to my admin colleagues, pity adversity brings it out.



Good eh. There was a time the bounce was full of radges.
Oh well I’m sure you and your admin colleagues are omnipotent and you could all be talking amongst yourselves again in an attempt to sustain the site .
Is an admin more knowledgable than someone who’s more knowledgable ?
Your attitude stinks mate .
 
Would you rather everyone just followed the herd and all had exactly the same view? It would destroy any debate and kill the point of a forum but it would save you having to read posts from members who might have a different opinion to you.
There's nothing wrong with debate if the agitators actually engaged with the debate rather than just spewing the same crap over and over without actually contributing anything of substance that in any way, shape or form can be verified - even in the most tenuous way.

And yes it will be crap until such time as there's a scrap of evidence.
 
Oh well I’m sure you and your admin colleagues are omnipotent and you could all be talking amongst yourselves again in an attempt to sustain the site .
Is an admin more knowledgable than someone who’s more knowledgable ?
Your attitude stinks mate .
Hello Peters sister. Tell him we're asking for him.
 
Oh well I’m sure you and your admin colleagues are omnipotent and you could all be talking amongst yourselves again in an attempt to sustain the site .
Is an admin more knowledgable than someone who’s more knowledgable ?
Your attitude stinks mate .

Work that one out everyone. I give up.
 
Hello Peters sister. Tell him we're asking for him.

Must be someone taking the piss surely ? No way is he real
 
Would you rather everyone just followed the herd and all had exactly the same view? It would destroy any debate and kill the point of a forum but it would save you having to read posts from members who might have a different opinion to you.

Hey Joe. Where you going with that gun in your hand?
Looking for the Board probably.

Were you at the game today?
I made a rare trip. Luckily I remembered how to get there.
What pearls of wisdom do you have for the less informed?
 
Work that one out everyone. I give up.

Still trying to figure out what the word "omnipotent" means. I'm not quite that knowledgeable.
 
Oh well I’m sure you and your admin colleagues are omnipotent and you could all be talking amongst yourselves again in an attempt to sustain the site .
Is an admin more knowledgable than someone who’s more knowledgable ?
Your attitude stinks mate .
Wibble
 
Still trying to figure out what the word "omnipotent" means. I'm not quite that knowledgeable.

I think its erection problems over the road from the St James Centre
 
That’s the whole point ? We have no clue they hide behind employment law - or banking secrecy when debt was written Off and the peasants believe snd the king reigns and on it goes repeat
 
That’s the whole point ? We have no clue they hide behind employment law - or banking secrecy when debt was written Off and the peasants believe snd the king reigns and on it goes repeat


No secrecy on this - as explained fully at the time in "the cat sat on the mat" format. Bank was offered a lump sum payment to wipe out our debt which was accepted. STF paid the lump sum which Hibs are repaying at 500k per year (interest free with STF losing out on any interest he could have got elsewhere for that sum). These lump sum payments to wind up a debt are quite common especially in football and will leave Hibs debt free in a few years. You are so intent on finding fault that you resort to making things up. (I had a Toby jug for years and it made more sense than you do).
 
Still trying to figure out what the word "omnipotent" means. I'm not quite that knowledgeable.

Simba. One day all of this will be yours.
 
Ok how much was BANK debt ?
How much was written. OfF .,,
It was no where near 5 million - that was TF. Getting his money back as well as bank debt paid of and now he wants a further 20 milllon for the club / not baseless - FACT
 

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