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Ryan Porteous Earns Scotland Call-up!

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Doubt you would have found it If last week was anything to go by!
I've a funny fealing London is better sign posted than the pathetic signage in Perth.Plus the sight of tartan clad hoardes would be a big clue.
 

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I hope #23 gets on!
 

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Can you explain why Champion's leagues football takes the blame?
Post 14 by Hector explains it really well. Champions League started in 1992. Up until then European Cup had been a standard knockout tournament for the true Champions of each league and you only got the final shown live usually. You also got the Scottish Cup final live. Not sure when they started showing the league cup final live. International tournaments, every 2 years, had been the main thing for live tv in terms of blanket coverage.

Players never declined the chance to play for the country back then and mysteriously didn’t seem to get injured just before internationals either. Once the Champions League began all that changed. Internationals became a nuisance and to be honest so did the domestic cups. Look at the farce of Liverpool and the league cup this year - all due to a fake tournament that they got to enter by winning the ‘Champions’ League despite having not won the English championship for decades.
 

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Last 15 minutes of that game were trully embarrasing.

Just shows how low we have actually sunk.
 

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Post 14 by Hector explains it really well. Champions League started in 1992. Up until then European Cup had been a standard knockout tournament for the true Champions of each league and you only got the final shown live usually. You also got the Scottish Cup final live. Not sure when they started showing the league cup final live. International tournaments, every 2 years, had been the main thing for live tv in terms of blanket coverage.

Players never declined the chance to play for the country back then and mysteriously didn’t seem to get injured just before internationals either. Once the Champions League began all that changed. Internationals became a nuisance and to be honest so did the domestic cups. Look at the farce of Liverpool and the league cup this year - all due to a fake tournament that they got to enter by winning the ‘Champions’ League despite having not won the English championship for decades.
Liverpool and other big teams have treated that tournament like that for years. Got fuck all to do with super cup or whatever it's called. More to do with league games.

I feel international football is a nuisance and should be abolished. The amount of games we have to play in December is criminal and let's face it Scotland have been shite for about 20-25 years.
 

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Liverpool and other big teams have treated that tournament like that for years. Got fuck all to do with super cup or whatever it's called. More to do with league games.

I feel international football is a nuisance and should be abolished. The amount of games we have to play in December is criminal and let's face it Scotland have been shite for about 20-25 years.
Nobody is denying Scotland are shite.

The league cup in England hasn’t been taken seriously by the teams that get into Europe for ages. Since about 1995 when they realized the money the Champions League generates. The Super cup thing highlights where Liverpool FC’s interest lies - global tv audience rather than Liverpudlians.

International football didn’t used to be a nuisance because it was primarily localized (home international tournament) and worked alongside a more realistic domestic schedule. Now the domestic schedule is bloated, European and World tournaments bloat club schedules. The rich clubs further bloat their schedules with endless exhibition games in Asia and the Americas, they want to increase the travel schedule by having domestic games played in different continents, and on top of that we have a bloated international schedule with endless tours by Brazil and Argentina, and things like the Nations Cup, Kirin Cup, and other meaningless international friendlies.

The end result of all of this is obvious and it doesn’t feature the likes of Hibs, Dundee United, or Motherwell as professional football teams. If you are happy watching Liverpool versus River Plate on the your phone for 20 quid rather than Hibs being a professional club then you’ll be fine.
 

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Nobody is denying Scotland are shite.

The league cup in England hasn’t been taken seriously by the teams that get into Europe for ages. Since about 1995 when they realized the money the Champions League generates. The Super cup thing highlights where Liverpool FC’s interest lies - global tv audience rather than Liverpudlians.

International football didn’t used to be a nuisance because it was primarily localized (home international tournament) and worked alongside a more realistic domestic schedule. Now the domestic schedule is bloated, European and World tournaments bloat club schedules. The rich clubs further bloat their schedules with endless exhibition games in Asia and the Americas, they want to increase the travel schedule by having domestic games played in different continents, and on top of that we have a bloated international schedule with endless tours by Brazil and Argentina, and things like the Nations Cup, Kirin Cup, and other meaningless international friendlies.

The end result of all of this is obvious and it doesn’t feature the likes of Hibs, Dundee United, or Motherwell as professional football teams. If you are happy watching Liverpool versus River Plate on the your phone for 20 quid rather than Hibs being a professional club then you’ll be fine.
Our December fixtures are diabolical in terms of how many we play cos of this international break. Also to do with our winter break but it's fucking outrageous and it's no as if we have European games to think about.

It's not only the teams in Europe that put out a mixed 11 side in the league cup. Most do it from the premiership cos the main aim is to stay in the legue.
 

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Our December fixtures are diabolical in terms of how many we play cos of this international break. Also to do with our winter break but it's fucking outrageous and it's no as if we have European games to think about.

It's not only the teams in Europe that put out a mixed 11 side in the league cup. Most do it from the premiership cos the main aim is to stay in the legue.
You are correct on all 3 points but what I’m alluding to is that the root cause of all of this is the shift to an overall focus in football to generating income through the revenue global tv audience. This drive creates an elite set of clubs and national FAs that Hibs and Scotland never really had a chance of being in. Some people are fine with that and would be happy just to watch Barcelona versus Bayern, Celtic v Huns, Brazil v Italy etc on pay per view constantly. I’m not one of them.
 

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You are correct on all 3 points but what I’m alluding to is that the root cause of all of this is the shift to an overall focus in football to generating income through the revenue global tv audience. This drive creates an elite set of clubs and national FAs that Hibs and Scotland never really had a chance of being in. Some people are fine with that and would be happy just to watch Barcelona versus Bayern, Celtic v Huns, Brazil v Italy etc on pay per view constantly. I’m not one of them.
I see where you're coming from. I think we share the same values in football. I'm in the category of Champions league should be for league winners only. But money has dictated otherwise.
 

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