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egb_hibs

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Is it just me or is this remarkable?

After his previous electoral victory in first round presidential elections was cancelled, Calin Georgescu is now banned from even standing in May elections. Romanian courts are the adjudicators here but the hand of the EU is not far away, with EU official Thierry Breton coming close to admitting it was the EU wot done it, and they will do the same in Germany if required.

The pretext for these events is a claim - according to some, poorly evidenced - of 800 Russian tiktok accounts supporting him.

Ok so we don't like Russia, but nevertheless I'm not sure i buy that it legitimises throwing democracy out. The Russians promote BLM and lgtbqwerty radicalism and they promote opposition to them. They promote left here and right there. Their aim is to sow chaos. But if we bin off democracy in response...isn't that playing into their hands?

The Yanks are going to have a field day with this, even as they dismantle USAID in part because of much more material meddling in other countries.

Is the EU and / or european states right to behave like this or are they just vindicating charges of anti democracy and neo liberal Imperialism, levelled at them?

IMO politics that have snatched defeat from the jaws of victory and are pushing countries towards Russia, is a worthier area for them to focus on, rather than attempting to smother responses. Not least as being vassals of global capitalism seems to be a plan somewhat outmoded by events.
 
It's a disgrace. And the EU has previous for ignoring democracy and denying folk their right to have representation.

So now Romanian folk have been shown that their voices count for nowt.
 
Democracy is just an illusion.

If you cannot see it's pretty much a One World Government.....Then I don't understand what planet your living on.

Welcome to Tyranny. 😈
 
Democracy is just an illusion.

If you cannot see it's pretty much a One World Government.....Then I don't understand what planet your living on.

Welcome to Tyranny. 😈
Going out on a limb a bit here, but is this One World Government run by the Jews by any chance? 🤔
 
Have a look and find out.
George Bush Snr even spoke about it when he was President.

Too many people asleep at the wheel.
 
Though if you do digging,how does such a small amount of people have so much influence in world affairs???
 
Area 51 Aliens GIF by Sky HISTORY UK
 
A Romanian comrades take on this from a few days ago....


BIG G
On the money once more. Those who have travelled with us all these years, should probably know by now that a communist you are, and a communist I very definitely am not.

But - churlish bs about Ukraine aside - these communist guys are pointing at the emperor and noting he’s in the scud. Whether they are communists, Nazis, wokies, Muslims, Catholics, or even libdems…does not change the emperor’s attire. There are just those will see, and those who choose not to.

As above, that process is affected by whose sacred cows are at stake, but that only determines who chooses to put their blinkers on or not. The reality is the reality.
 
On the money once more. Those who have travelled with us all these years, should probably know by now that a communist you are, and a communist I very definitely am not.

But - churlish bs about Ukraine aside - these communist guys are pointing at the emperor and noting he’s in the scud. Whether they are communists, Nazis, wokies, Muslims, Catholics, or even libdems…does not change the emperor’s attire. There are just those will see, and those who choose not to.

As above, that process is affected by whose sacred cows are at stake, but that only determines who chooses to put their blinkers on or not. The reality is the reality.
As we both said at the time on here Martin, our scepticism regarding the much lauded, by the West, new regime in Syria was utterly misplaced and I posted to someone who welcomed it on here, quoting Aesop...
Be careful what you wish for, lest it come true.



BIG G
 
As we both said at the time on here Martin, our scepticism regarding the much lauded, by the West, new regime in Syria was utterly misplaced and I posted to someone who welcomed it, quoting Aesop...
Be careful what you wish for, lest it come true.



BIG G
Indeed.

It will get the pearl clutchers going, but if nothing else, it seems to me that the Trump regime is if nothing else, clear eyed that US and European adventurism has produced nothing but carnage with no yield. I will depart from the the Marxists sites a bit, perhaps, in that I believe Ukraine is different, as they were invaded. That said, at this stage, the result is the same; the chance for a Ukrainian win was squandered in 2022, it is now impossible, and a forever war will just stack up bodies while stroking the neoliberal fantasy.

The absolute disdain for diversity - while banging on about little else - is the culturally imperialistic problem at the heart of so many failures. Most of the world doesn’t want their culture displaced by McDonald’s and drag queen story hour. Syria is the latest example - displace a secular dictator and if doesn’t mean stonewall will be running things thereafter.

You were right about this way back in Iraq days where I was still a youngish optimist. I will say to you though that I think Marxists are blind themselves when they can both grasp this, but also (at least it’s my impression) believe they can import Iraq and the likes to here and think it will be different. Leave magic soil fantasies to the Nazis would be my observation there. (But then I don’t really think some at least are that self contradicting - I believe they see it as a route to collapse the west and usher in a new dawn. It will work as well, but they should look to Iran et al and ponder if neo liberals are the only ones deluded about what that dawn looks like).

I can remember protests at my then place of work in the 90s when we started doing business in China. ‘This will open them up and liberalise them’ we were assured. A fantasy then, a bad joke now. The rest of the world looks at the west as plot-lost weirdos. America they need to continue to take seriously. Europe is like some ranting old uncle lost in his memories of glory while dribbling his soup and pishing in his trousers.

The efforts to silence dissent will become ever more frenzied as the dominos continue to fall. Like France in 1788 or Russia in 1916. The funny thing is the ‘liberal left’ are now the ministers and the courtiers.
 
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