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Politics Only in Israel
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Zitellis Heid
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Mystic Heid reads his hairy palm: "Lots of views, no replies."
Sorry S. Way it is on this forum. :coffee:
All heads and sand. :Embarassed:
egb_hibs
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Seriously? Whatever the rights or wrongs, you think this could only happen in Israel? Do you own a television?
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Yes I do have a TV and Ive never seen a rally against peace before
egb_hibs
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Well I'd urge being mindful of what you see on that telly then. After all, this is actually prayers against redrawing Israel's boundaries. Again, right or wrong, that's somewhat different than the headline which you had further skewed by dropping off the talks.
Oh and if you haven't seen 'rallies against peace' I may be getting ahead of myself. First you need to switch the tv on
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Well I'd urge being mindful of what you see on that telly then. After all, this is actually prayers against redrawing Israel's boundaries. Again, right or wrong, that's somewhat different than the headline which you had further skewed by dropping off the talks.
Oh and if you haven't seen 'rallies against peace' I may be getting ahead of myself. First you need to switch the tv on
If you can fit it all into a title for a thread then you are a better man than me lol (sorry shrink) So show me the other rallies against peace then
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No. I'm not frittering time to provide you with endless examples of street celebrations of anything but peace. It's akin to being sent for a long weight.
Meanwhile, across the world, Christians, secularists,trade unionists, women, gays, freedom campaigners are hounded out of their homelands, murdered, imprisoned, tortured, or just bullied into cramped little lives. But hey, the only liberal democratic state outside the extended west is the locus of unique evil.
We're back in the 1930s in so many ways
Meanwhile, across the world, Christians, secularists,trade unionists, women, gays, freedom campaigners are hounded out of their homelands, murdered, imprisoned, tortured, or just bullied into cramped little lives. But hey, the only liberal democratic state outside the extended west is the locus of unique evil.
We're back in the 1930s in so many ways
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Its not a rally against peace.
They are praying against the potential damage that could result from negotiating with terrorists.
Now I know that doesn't fit well with certain folks on here, but to call it a rally against peace is quite frankly ridiculous.
They are praying against the potential damage that could result from negotiating with terrorists.
Now I know that doesn't fit well with certain folks on here, but to call it a rally against peace is quite frankly ridiculous.
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Aww cmon you have been searching the internet for other "rallies against peace" and found none:coffee:
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Well I'd urge being mindful of what you see on that telly then. After all, this is actually prayers against redrawing Israel's boundaries. Again, right or wrong, that's somewhat different than the headline which you had further skewed by dropping off the talks.
Oh and if you haven't seen 'rallies against peace' I may be getting ahead of myself. First you need to switch the tv on
Yay to this
Its not a rally against peace.
They are rallying against the potential damage that could result from negotiating with terrorists.
Now I know that doesn't fit well with certain folks on here, but to call it a rally against peace is quite frankly ridiculous.
Nay to this
egb_hibs
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Had I undertaken your fools errand and drawn a blank - your complaint might be more accurately framed as me failing to find countless celebrations of carnage not tagged as a rally against peace by goebbels-like propagandists.
I fear the world will pay a terrible price for the fact that the left has never been forced to confront its past in the way that for example. The Catholic Church has been forced to. The anti Jewish climate is mind bending less than a decade and a half out of the century when progressive politics wrought its Gtterdmmerung
After which I'll claim my word of the week prize, thanks :raisehat:
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Its not a rally against peace.
They are praying against the potential damage that could result from negotiating with terrorists.
Now I know that doesn't fit well with certain folks on here, but to call it a rally against peace is quite frankly ridiculous.
Yeh and The american sate sending arms to Bin Laden and his mob during the occupation of afganistan aint nothing more than helping the cause of freedom? grow a pair Barney and pull your head out your ass
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Incidentally, to give you a free example of anti-peace protests: the royalist faction in Thailand just now.
I think anti-Semitism on the left is a tricky little puzzle; it's definitely a problem, in the sense that it definitely exists, but there's rarely enough nuance in the criticism to give it any weight among the people listening.
One thing you bring up a bit which I disagree with is the idea that people fixate on Israel due to anti-Semitism. I think this is fundamentally untrue and a grievous misunderstanding of the people you argue with. Israel is a locus of debate because Western support of Israel is seen as a moral, rather than strategic issue. The left hate governments cozying up to the Saudis every bit as much - moreso - but EVERYONE hates that. It's not much of a debate if everyone agrees. It's self-evident.
Where you do have some traction is that the distinctions between 'Israelis', 'Zionists', 'settlers', 'Jews' and 'the IDF' are blurred in a lot of people's heads.
As a side issue. I think the engine that unites atrocities over the last few hundred years has been the dissolving of human life into economic functions. This isn't a critique of capitalism, it's a critique of unaccountability. Religion didn't prevent the slave trade. It didn't prevent the Somme, or the Belgian Congo. Pius XII's response to the Holocaust at the very least 'falls short'. And the secularism of the USSR or Mao's China didn't cause the Holodomor or the Great Leap Forward.
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Back into the swing of things already. The fuck you talking about?
Where are rallies against peace happening? Is this like sarcastic rallies? Is there a word missing or something?
I'm no even going near liberal politics causing fucking naziism for now btw.
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ER no offence - and good to see you back - but your point is close to my own, and you may wish to put your question to newhoose. Let's just say however, that if we want to affix this label, then any number of exhibitions of the Iranian or Arab 'street' are far close to the bill than events in Israel. So to innumerable African jamborees.
Liberal politics are centre right - what is called liberalism is the left, whose c20 pre war preoccupations were given expression by the Nazis. It is the decades of denial of this historical reality, and further reality bending by coopting the names of things for their opposite (as with liberalism) that is allowing these attitudes to reemerge.
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The dynamic of the Middle East is changing pretty fast. A year ago Iran was a terrorist state - in the last few months hundreds of Western multinational corporations have moved in. Iran has the most spectacular amount of oil and other natural resources. Israel has very little to offer the West. The Iranians are ideologically opposed to the salafist beliefs of Al Qaida. Whatever the future holds, it's going to be an interesting time out there.
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Egb why you not replied to FGTJ ?